Valve Oil
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michellegarbutt
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I sometimes have this problem with my yamaha baritone. I've found the best solution is to take the valve out. Wash and dry the valve with warm water (don't forget the casing as well) Then I reoil with blue juice. Hope this helps
Despot
Member
Is it a new or old instrument?
I'd agree with that, clean often, as dirt and too much valve oil will cause it to stick.
I find Yamaha valve oil the best, any of the "thicker" oils are better on larger instruments. Some of the high speed oils are too light and break up too easily.
If soap and water doesn't work, try toothpaste, which is a mild abrasive or a more "aggressive" solution is to polish the valve with something like brasso.
I'd agree with that, clean often, as dirt and too much valve oil will cause it to stick.
I find Yamaha valve oil the best, any of the "thicker" oils are better on larger instruments. Some of the high speed oils are too light and break up too easily.
If soap and water doesn't work, try toothpaste, which is a mild abrasive or a more "aggressive" solution is to polish the valve with something like brasso.
big_benthomson
Member
yeah...get some blue juice on it
its got some funny cleaning agent in it which supposedly gets all the crap off your valves
i barely have to oil mine cos of that stuff
its got some funny cleaning agent in it which supposedly gets all the crap off your valves
i barely have to oil mine cos of that stuff
Use a "Do it yourself" valve oil recipe.
Soak the BOTTOM half of the valve in a glass of coke overnight - strips all the **** off it (like the penny in coke demonstration at the dentists)
Take a small amount of comfort (or other) softner and put into the bottom of a spray container. Fill the rest with water and shake to mix.
Spray on valve...
Works for me - the softner in the water stops grease stickin to the valve and is a good oil in itself - think i have to oil the valves once in a sheffield flood.
Soak the BOTTOM half of the valve in a glass of coke overnight - strips all the **** off it (like the penny in coke demonstration at the dentists)
Take a small amount of comfort (or other) softner and put into the bottom of a spray container. Fill the rest with water and shake to mix.
Spray on valve...
Works for me - the softner in the water stops grease stickin to the valve and is a good oil in itself - think i have to oil the valves once in a sheffield flood.
floral_dance
Member
can I be dim and ask what blue juice is? 
aimee_euph
Member
Yamaha valve oil is quite expensive but it's the best oil ive ever used.
michellegarbutt
Supporting Member
Despot said:Nothing dim about it!
There's a brand of valve oil called "Blue Juice", hate it myself, very strong odour from it! I'm just too delicate! :lol:
It does have a bit of smell but it's the best oil I've ever found :roll:
Valves & Valve Oils
If you have problems with your valves!!![/size]
Valve oil is not always the answer - you may just have a problem with your valves!
Certain instruments (not nameing names) have always had not so good valves and the best answer is to have a brass repairer to have a look at them to sort them out, the valve is normaly sorted out with some "lapping-in" paste. I have found this to work every time!!.
Try not to use washing up liquids or "Comfort" as they have salt in them and long term eat away at the valve.
The best oils to use are:
Blue Juice
Za-Ja (both having a cleaning agent in them which breaks down the bacteria)
If anyone needs more advise I would be happy to help.
Tim Oldroyd
Band Instrument Specialist
timothyoldroyd@hotmail.com
If you have problems with your valves!!![/size]
Valve oil is not always the answer - you may just have a problem with your valves!
Certain instruments (not nameing names) have always had not so good valves and the best answer is to have a brass repairer to have a look at them to sort them out, the valve is normaly sorted out with some "lapping-in" paste. I have found this to work every time!!.
Try not to use washing up liquids or "Comfort" as they have salt in them and long term eat away at the valve.
The best oils to use are:
Blue Juice
Za-Ja (both having a cleaning agent in them which breaks down the bacteria)
If anyone needs more advise I would be happy to help.
Tim Oldroyd
Band Instrument Specialist
timothyoldroyd@hotmail.com
aimee_euph
Member
Re: Valves & Valve Oils
True, my valves didn't fit in the casing properly causing them to stick a lot, so a music man did something to the inside of the casing, and all of a sudden they work perfect, ive never had a problem since.
timold said:
True, my valves didn't fit in the casing properly causing them to stick a lot, so a music man did something to the inside of the casing, and all of a sudden they work perfect, ive never had a problem since.
floral_dance
Member
michellegarbutt said:Despot said:Nothing dim about it!
There's a brand of valve oil called "Blue Juice", hate it myself, very strong odour from it! I'm just too delicate! :lol:
It does have a bit of smell but it's the best oil I've ever found :roll:
Thanks for clearing that up. I might just try it on my Besson Sovereign, it is only 5 months old and I am forever cleaning and oiling the valves as they get quite sluggish, even washing valves and valve case they still pick up a lot of black mucky stuff. Anyone have any ideas how long it takes to get rid of this.
my bro said(i found this too, with new intruments that the stuff they use to grind the valves with can get left there - not just on the valves (i had this with my new euph - black stuff)
i just gave the whole instrument a wash through - haven't encounted anymore - valves alot better
i just gave the whole instrument a wash through - haven't encounted anymore - valves alot better
