stabbyjnr said:i think its a wrong renactment of greek mythology my self but a good film with a few mistakes...
stabbyjnr said:i think its a wrong renactment of greek mythology my self but a good film with a few mistakes...
Accidental said:Who cares?! I'm just going to see Brad, Orlando and Eric with their legs out..... :wink:
ScrapingtheBottom said:It isn't actually mythology. Its an idea that has taken it's inspiration from the homeric poems the Iliad and the Odyssey and Virgil's Aeneid. There can't actually be any mistakes because it isn't truely based on one account of the battle of Troy (even the Iliad and the Odyssey have inconsistences).
I am disappointed that they missed out the gods, but I think it would have been difficult to fit that story even in 21/2 hours.
Tuba Miriam said:Without meaning to be a semantic pedant, it most definitely is mythology, coming from the oral tradition of epic cycle poetry, for which Homer is the surviving source of evidence. It was used by later Greeks as an example of their lost bronze age, for defining hero cult etc etc, so in the sense that it is used by later Greeks as a means of explaining their past it has to be mythology. As you say, though, there are various versions of the myth, but the "standard" (for most Classical Greeks too, ok, only because it was the epic version that got written down!) was the Iliad.
geordiecolin said:I've not seen it but will do and hopefully will not be disappointed. The Ilyiad is accepted by many to be the first real novel in a "modern" format. Although there is historical basis, people should should not confuse the story with gospel truth. If the film is inaccurate, it will be at fault in my view for not following the book as opposed to be historically inaccurate. I hate it when books are made into films badly. Does my nut. But not as much as historically inaccurate films that are supposed to portray real events.... (Titanic, U-571 etc... :evil: )
ScrapingtheBottom said:No, mythology is the study of myth, which is a fictional series of events used to explain an unexplainable phenomenon. This is legend, which is different in that it is an embellishment of historical fact. The film is based upon at least three accounts (and possibly more, modern historical accounts) of the battle of Troy and its aftermath - including Virgil's Aenid, which is a Roman epic poem (okay, based heavily on the homeric story) so it is not purely Greek in its ideas. The Battle of Troy does have some historical basis therefore it cannot be myth.
Consider yourself super-semantic pedanted.
Tuba Miriam said:The strict distinction between myth and legend isn't recognised by all scholars. Be that as it may, the historical basis of any sort for the Battle of Troy has always been, and will always be, seriously disputed. The archaeological evidence from mound VII at Hisarlik, for example, is far from incontrovertible as is any of the other evidence - archaeological, historical and linguistic. In the end, believing that the/a Battle of Troy ever took place is largely a matter of faith and so, therefore, any distinction between myth and legend becomes even more meaningless.
ScrapingtheBottom said:But we are probably going off topic so we'll agree to disagree.
Tuba Miriam said:Thanks for the discussion, though, I rarely get to talk Classics these days.![]()