tubafran said:At a concert last Saturday we threw in Choral & Rock Out and Hootenany. Both have been in the library for years and were due for re-consideration in our concert programmes.
We had no rehearsal on Hootenany so the reps got a nice surprise for the Chicken Reel part. Both went down and storm and got the best applause of the night. Don't mind Choral & RockOut but I've played Hootenany too many times in the past and don't think there's much we can do with it; perhaps it will have to return to the library for another 5 years.
nickjbeaumarisband said:I think that Hootanany is rubbish , same for instant concert and Instant Christmas....I am sure we can find something else from the archives that is good for audiences to listen too.....audiences need a reminder that we have clever original and arranged works that are much better than that rubbish...rant over
johnflugel said:I had 'Seid' on in the car the other day. YBS took the Euros on the strength of beating Dyke on this when it was the set work in 1996. Really interesting music and a cracking recording if anyone fancies getting hold of a copy from somewhere. It's on the European 1996 CD of that year and the 'Kings of Europe' disc I think.
brassneck said:For lower sections, wouldn't mind seeing Sinfonietta (Thomas Wilson) and Concert Overture (Vilem Tausky) back in the frame, but unlikely!
Australian Euphonium said:I think any band or MD who pulls out hootenany in this day and age needs a kick up the **** and their baton stolen. - Congrats on reminding everyone how fantastically cliche'd we are!
Not that they save some rehearsal time, but because it's what the punters want! Our audiences love hearing cheese, and, be honest, we love playing it too. When we ask for requests then its pieces like the above and "The Best of Abba" etc that people want to hear. The "proper" music needs a different kind of audience, one which I don't believe the brass band world has found yet.Dave Payn said:This has got me thinking. Purely for 'cheese' factor considerations, I wonder how well a CD of the following would sell:
(In no particular track order)
Trumpets Wild (or Bright Eyes)
The Best of the Seekers
Frolic for Trombones (or Trombones to the Fore)
Forty Fathoms (or Tuba Smarties)
To a Wild Rose
Sweet Gingerbread Man
After the WoB/tMP compilation ideas, how about starting a CD list entitled Cheese 'Grates' or somesuch. Ideas, please?
I am not necessarily mocking the above works! It's simply that they have formed a lot of the 'bread and butter' lower section bandstand gigs' repertoire over the years on the basis, I guess, that they save SOME rehearsal time!
groovy said:Not that they save some rehearsal time, but because it's what the punters want! Our audiences love hearing cheese, and, be honest, we love playing it too. When we ask for requests then its pieces like the above and "The Best of Abba" etc that people want to hear. The "proper" music needs a different kind of audience, one which I don't believe the brass band world has found yet.
These kind of tracks, if they were recorded, would not sellDave Payn said:Up to a point, I agree with you, BUT... if that's truly what the 'punters' want, why has no recording company seen fit to release a recording of those tracks I mentioned on one CD, at least on a regular basis? My own (purely personal) view is that maybe the punters liked that sort of thing a few years back, but a lot of the above, even in bandstand terms, is a wee bit past its sell by date. (I make this judgement based on audience reaction in recent years!)AGAIN, I re-iterate, I'm not mocking the individual pieces but do we not underestimate the bandstand audiences to a degree these days? I'm not for one minute suggesting that we should feed them a diet of serious brass band original works, but with arrangers coming to the fore of the calibre of Andy Duncan, Mark Freeh, etc. (not to mention the plethora of arrangers and composers who frequent these boards like Timbone, Straightmute, HBB, GJG, MRSH etc.) and the adaptability of the likes of Philip Sparke to arrange more ambitious easy listening/light classics/big band etc. isn't it time to, by and large, put the 'old warhorses' to bed?
groovy said:These kind of tracks, if they were recorded, would not sell
a) Because brass band CDs aren't easily accessable to the public unless they were specifically looking for it (eg online)
b) The banders themselves wouldn't buy it, for obvious reasons.
However our band's own CD, which we sell ourselves at concerts, markets etc, has sold very well and it is "cheesy".
Yes, some of the cheesy music could be updated, I agree, but none of my band's audiences have ever complained about our repitoire. This may be because we are one of only two brass bands in the county, and I believe that we play out to the public far more than the other band. (I may be wrong, this is purely based on the fact that I have never seen them playing out or heard of them doing so.) So, the public really isn't hearing a band very often and haven't heard Hootenanny thousands of times.
There is a great collection of light brass band music about, but I personally feel that it can work better in a concert rather than a bandstand job. For this, we need music that is recognisable, popular, and easy - not only to save rehearsal time but also to keep the pressure off on long days of playing. For this purpose the 'old warhorses' fit the bill.
brassneck said:Isn't it a simple case of brass bands in this context meeting the public's expectations? If brass bands are going to be associated with dumbed down/up (cheesy) arrangements and various other pieces from a bye-gone era (... Victorian Culture), then Mr. and Mrs. J. Public are going to hear something they expect to hear.