Official "Whit Friday" Thread....including results!

AndyCat

Active Member
This is obviously how the bands manage to compete at so many venues.We experienced this "queue-jumping" technique at Mossely(I think it was),which if we had agreed to it would have put us back by two bands.(it wasn't Dyke btw-some-one equally famous).All bands whatever section they are in have the same right to play at as many venues as they can on the circuit if it is done fairly.
I say DISQUALIFY 'em and hold back their prize money(if any)!

If this was Top Mossley, and you're talking about Fodens, I think you'll find the problem was that a 1st section band (who I know and was chatting to) played before us, but had booked in by car 20-25 minutes before their coach got there. We had to wait for them even though their coach was behind ours. This was questioned and the steward said if there was a representative of the band there, they could sign in, coach or no coach.

Every Contest has it's own particular procedures apparently ;-)

Whilst not a member of Fodens, I played with them at Whit Friday (as last year), and we queued at several contests (for some time, eg at Broadoak, Droylsden), so much so that even though we played our first at 4.15pm ish, we had only done 4 or 5 by 7pm. We then played at 4 where there was no-one at all, let alone someone queuing.

Some bands (not just "name" bands) do more because they have a well planned, good route, a "waiting" strategy, the luck of the draw, AND are prepared to play at 4pm and finish after Midnight, after taking the afternoon off work to facilitate this!

It's not as bad as a lot of people make out, I've done it with all standards of bands and have never done less than 9-10 contests a year in 20 years. Some of those were finishing at 9.30pm for refreshments as well!
 

BBBfYBS

Member
Ali said:
Quote"It tells you the places but it doesn't give you the full results of each village.

It would be nice to know where we came in each village that we did and where we were in relation to other bands"
There is usually an Excel spread sheet put up on the web site once all the results are collated. It gives a breakdown of each contest and it also tells you where your band finished overall.

There is a spread sheet of all bands results in Saddleworth provided by BBW!
www.brassbandworld.com
 
We were at the mossely contest where the band club is(sorry,dont know the area)

Not being the 1st section band you mentioned Andy I wouldnt know their methods of registering but we were approached by a regular member of this famous band to exchange places and as we were registered before them I think this "practice"is completely out of order.

I understand that to compete at so many venues is down to luck of the draw etc it still doesnt excuse these bands of trying to persuade lower section bands-there in their own right-to give up their allocated slot
 

becks164

Member
our last stop on friday was uppermill, and fodens had tried to push in frotn of us coach wise then they tried to push in front of us in the queue i wasnt bothered like cause my friends came behinde them but i dint understand y there where trying to push in front of us
 
I make no apologies for being a true BOC here because term is over and I have nothing better to do with my time (actually I do but thats not the point...).

Lets be honest all the top bands go for is the money (unfortunately) so I made some guesses to how much they earned themselves based on the information so far. This is only approximate and doesn't take into account the specialist prizes.

Fodens: £6300
Dyke: £6200
YBS: £4200
B&R: £2600

We didn't do too bad after all then :)
 

GINSTER

New Member
Tameside

JUST READ 4BARSREST AND THEY HAVE CONFIRMED OVERALL RESULTS AS FOLLOWS

TAMESIDE OVERALL CHAMPIONS

1ST FODENS
2ND BT
3RD LEYLAND
:clap:
 

suttynco

New Member
big congratulations to St Johns (Mossley) Band - Played 9 contests in 4th section came 1st in 5 and won a best basses :clap:
 

SBB

Member
Just Reading the Results from Droylsden, (The Bush Inn)

Some Funny Ones!

WARDLE & DIST. ANDERSON BRASS 11th

Fodens 14th

SILK BRASS 15th (Wha Hey)

Glossop Old 16th

Leyland 17th

Poynton 25th

No disrespect to Wardle, well done guys but surely seeing how leyland and Fodens did overall, you can see the adjucators gone abit wild here!

We classed this one as a warm up contest, our first one, and we were first band on aswell winning £25 ( Wha hey!) Was the adjudicator drunk lol!!!

Personally I don't think we played our best here, but beating Leyland!

Just thought I'd share that thought with you all!

Ben
 

Cornishwomble

Active Member
Temporary Noble said:
Emley were kind enough to invite a couple of extra troms along for the marching - we played 76 Trombones again! Seemed to get a good reception.

The guys played Black Knight on the stand. results so far are 43 at Delph (pretty late on) and managed 35th at Denshaw, playing next to last at about 11.40!

Managed 7 in total which is more than I've ever done in the past.

Thank you for coming along and helping. Having the troms whacking that out on the march certainly helped save the lips for the main event!

Thank you to the others who also helped out on the night, see you next year????
 

GINSTER

New Member
SilkBrassBen said:
Just Reading the Results from Droylsden, (The Bush Inn)

Some Funny Ones!

WARDLE & DIST. ANDERSON BRASS 11th

Fodens 14th

SILK BRASS 15th (Wha Hey)

Glossop Old 16th

Leyland 17th

Poynton 25th

No disrespect to Wardle, well done guys but surely seeing how leyland and Fodens did overall, you can see the adjucators gone abit wild here!

We classed this one as a warm up contest, our first one, and we were first band on aswell winning £25 ( Wha hey!) Was the adjudicator drunk lol!!!

Personally I don't think we played our best here, but beating Leyland!

Just thought I'd share that thought with you all!

Ben

Hey Ben don't knock it,(Take the glory)

Thats the most enjoyable thing about Whit Friday because to a certain degree it puts everyone on a level playing field. Anythings possible. Even though both Leyland and Fodens were up there at the end of the night overall (along with BT of Course) I heard through a third party that these two bands did have a couple of wobbly ones on the night (Including us) and the results obviously prove this.

Thats Contesting!!!!!!!!!!

:D
 

2nd man down

Moderator
Staff member
Roy Taylor said:
Thank you for coming along and helping. Having the troms whacking that out on the march certainly helped save the lips for the main event!

Thank you to the others who also helped out on the night, see you next year????


Yeah, thanks to all who marched with us on friday, much appreciated as always, and you're always welcome back whenever you like, the door's always open.
I even tried roping in a couple of Dyke troms after they'd played at Denshaw, but their lips had gone apparently, bless them. Never mind, can't fault me for trying.

Managed to lay a hand on their British Championship trophy too on the night...probably the only chance I'll ever get to be that near to it!! *sigh* ;)
 

wally

Member
engelbert humperWink said:
On another point

did anyone see the elderly couple following every band marching down the hill at Delph.We had about a 15 band wait time we got there and had to be refreshed so we stood outside the 1st pub on the right(top of the hill)and we watched them dance down behind each band then saw them come back up again-they must have been knackered time they had finished.
it was so funny

i remember these guys dancing along with us in delph at about 11. they were funny - but also very impressive. it must have been v difficult to dance along with us - by this point in the evening we had gone from a loosely ordered, pseudo band march formation into a randomly swerving amoeba formation!!
 

BigHorn

Active Member
becks164 said:
our last stop on friday was uppermill, and fodens had tried to push in frotn of us coach wise then they tried to push in front of us in the queue i wasnt bothered like cause my friends came behinde them but i dint understand y there where trying to push in front of us


Disgraceful that's what I say :mad: - but they really reached rock bottom when they tried to push in front of me at ... Delph band club bar :eek:

Needless to say they didn't succeed ;)
 

tubafran

Active Member
Now that full results are up for Saddleworth and Tameside it is possible to see exactly how many contests each band got in; in summary we have

4 bands did 13, 2 bands did 12, 3 bands did 11, 11 bands did 10,15 bands did 9, 20 bands did 8, 25 bands did 7, 27 bands did 6, 19 bands did 5, 12 bands did 4 and 3 bands did 3 or less.


If you plot that out it gives a typically normal curve however the bands achieving 13 or 12 seem exceptional - these bands where:

ASHTON-U-LYNE (13)
BESSES O'TH' BARN (13)
FODENS RICHARDSON (13)
MOSSLEY (12)
YBS (12)

they all had a majority of the contests in Tameside (usually quicker to get round than Saddleworth) but I wonder if there is any correlation between these bands and the complaints of "booking in whilst absent" or pushing in?
 
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2nd man down

Moderator
Staff member
anybody know of a link to the Freizland full listing rather than just the prize winners?? I've looked but can't find one. :frown:
 

tubafran

Active Member
2nd man down said:
anybody know of a link to the Freizland full listing rather than just the prize winners?? I've looked but can't find one. :frown:

Both Tameside and Saddleworth spreadsheet on Brass Band World

www.brassbandworld.com/

Edit after posting
Sorry having looked at this site and there is no information about Freizland results - is that because it was only 3rd and 4th Section bands?
 

2nd man down

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Staff member
tubafran said:
Both Tameside and Saddleworth spreadsheet on Brass Band World

www.brassbandworld.com/

Edit after posting
Sorry having looked at this site and there is no information about Freizland results - is that because it was only 3rd and 4th Section bands?

That's what I was wondering. Is this the only 3rd/4th section Only venue??
 

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