Steve said:Helped out at a bands first rehearsal on this the other week on trombone and the bone parts have nothing in them at all. Its well within a half decent trombone player so those with aspirations to play at the open should have no problem. As for the other parts, I dont remember anyone having problems with the notes and it was do-able after an hours work, obviously not to winning standard though. Any band wanting to play at the open should be able to play this with ease.
Steve said:Any band wanting to play at the open should be able to play this with ease.
johnflugel said:The basics in this piece are tough enough, take the first few notes for example....not so easy at pp, in unison, with a hot stage and heart pounding...not always the techincal stuff that is demanding. The soloists have big demands placed on them, particularly sop, flugel ( :shock and solo horn.
Darth_Tuba said:"Do-able" after an hours work? Takes that long to go through the errata sheet surely? :lol: Seriously though, apart from the trom and perc parts this piece is very hard. The sop part is an absolute nightmare, the opening is extremely hard to pull off (hence why it's completely missing from the Rimmer arrangement), and there are plenty of exposed passages where all the basics will show up (balance, tuning, dynamics, etc.). The shield is packed with good bands, but I don't think any of them will find it easy!
Ste69 said:Agreed, it's not all about technicality but musicality will play a big part - but then again, who knows what Mr adjudicators is looking for?
Steve said:I think tuning, stamina etc should not be too great an issue at this level. Balance however, yes, thats down to the MD's and nerve I couldnt comment on as i dont really understand nervous players all that well (sorry ).
iggmeister said:However, Darth, I think the Rimmer version does have the opening part of the piece but it has been left out in when used in competition, (usually 2nd and 3rd section), because it is considered too difficult
missflugel said:It was the Open piece in 2001 i think.
The back row cornet part isnt that hard (personally speaking) but I know Sop and Flugel have a lot of work to do
Darth_Tuba said:It's years since I've played the Rimmer version, I just remember it not being as true to the original? Anyway, my point remains that many bands will have been discounted by the adjudicators after the opening section. Harsh, but fair I suppose! :roll:
bassinthebathroom said:Seriously though, a great composition, but (in my lowly opinion) poorly arranged and impractical at times, with more mistakes and errors than I'd care to list. AND it's the 2nd version too!!! Unbelievable!! Assumedly it's been proof read twice?!? WHO BY?!?! I'd like to meet him. End of rant - see those who're going at the Grand Shield weekend.
iggmeister said:It will also be interesting to see whether bands put 'optional' BBb bass notes in throughout the piece and what the adjudicators will make of that :?:
johnflugel said:Steve said:I think tuning, stamina etc should not be too great an issue at this level. Balance however, yes, thats down to the MD's and nerve I couldnt comment on as i dont really understand nervous players all that well (sorry ).
Any band has a complacent attitude towards tuning and stamina will come a cropper, particularly in this work. 'At this level', balance is as much the players responsibility as the conductor's. As for nerves, you are very fortunate not to suffer from them :!:
Darth_Tuba said:In a contest where bands are looking to sound like the big boys and get into the Open, it's likely many will play the "contest game" and use pedals.