The answers simple really......
"If it aint Broke, Dont try to fix it"
"If it aint Broke, Dont try to fix it"
Okiedokie of Oz said:As beaut an idea it would be to have brass bands in schools along with stage bands, concert bands, orchestras etc etc...., Education Queensland would be forced to modify the "rules" on how to teach brass players, plus hire brass specialists, or ensure that university degrees for IM cover the finer points of brass band transposition, structure, repertoire etc.
Considering how stubborn they are over the TC/BC issue (mind you, I don''t see brass bands adjusting either)it won't happen until a brass bandy gets to the top.
Spanky Rear said:Finally let me say for those who don't know already--Yes Dave you are proficient. From the way you use your triggers I'd say you're aiming for one of the flugel parts!
alks said:Time for some points me thinks...
1)Right, more players ?30? alot of bands are struggleing to get close to 20 players especially here in the west. Most people here seam to go to at least 2 bands a week, thats 3-4 practices. Without this 2 or 3 bands would quiclky fold. More instrumnets/ players would not be fair or feasible.
2) Why do you think there are websites like the mouthpiece and 4Br?
Well its because banding is a uniform activity and people can relate to it, introducing new instrumnets would fracture the movement and divide it. It would be a disaster. Strength in numbers keeps the momentum going.
People shoulnt really moan about the system because really it works.
Ive seen many diffrent clubs etc spilt over the future of there particular domain - and it usally ends in people not talking t each other which weakens the movement.
3) Minor ammedments are fine, but too much fiddleing causes problem-its alsways wise to look at the big picture. Like i said "if it aint broke dont try to fix it"
PeterBale said:I have a number of recordings in my collection where additional instruments have been used in particular pieces, especially such as a piccolo trumpet, a second flugel, a trumpet soloist and extra trombones - and remember that SA music often divides its trombone parts as we are not affected by contesting limits. There are also bands who produce a trombone quartet by shifting across another player, often from baritone or euphonium.
As to whether such things would ever become common-place I still think that is less likely, once commercial considerations are taken into account. It is one thing for a particular Musical Director, especially someone who arranges music themselves, to decide to feature a particular instrument, but quite another matter to request that in an arrangement that is going on open sale. Unless there is going to be substantial cueing and alternatives it may not appeal to the majority of bands, which would reduce its attraction, and thus the number of copies sold. Equally, the mere existence of other versions can detract from the very effect originally intended.
alks said:Sorry, was mainly refering to satchmo's comments on 30 players and E flat Trumpet... and a mention about why we have basses as they are or something like that. [b]Sure some minor fiddling with current players in the occational piece wouldnt matter too much so long as all the players have a part and are not left out. [/b] However some players are not as flexible with instrumnetation and dont like swopping instrumnets or parts too much - some wont swap becuase they say it effects their sound or ability to play during the change over....of course some dont mind.....
different strokes for different folks ..... :roll:
PeterBale said:As you say, Dave, it does work to some extent with wind ensembles, but at what cost? By the time you add in all the parts that are included in the package just in case you happen to have, say, an alto or contrabass clarinet, or a cor anglais, is it any surprise that an average wind set is likely to cost nearly twice as much as the equivalent for brass band?
From my experience, wind groups don't have anything like the repertoire in their libraries that brass bands have, and are very wary of making any new purchases because of the costs involved.
I don't think it would be an exaggeration to say that at least 50% of our current library is unlikely to be played for the foreseeable future (a lot of it's very old!).
Paul McLaughlin said:[I don't think it would be an exaggeration to say that at least 50% of our current library is unlikely to be played for the foreseeable future (a lot of it's very old!).
Go on Dave make some suggestions! Quite happy to give the library an airing - maybe to raise cash? £2 to play a number £5+ to bin one?!