I've played alongside Jack and for an amateur he produces a sweet sound from his horn. Worth contacting.I’m not saying that they will be particularly helpful but suggest that you try (wade through) these threads:
This one came up on John Packer's web-site - an ex-demo model at a very good price. I checked my bank account, worked out that I could afford it, ordered it yesterday, and it arrived today. It was very carefully packed, and in a hard case which looks pretty damn solid. All the fittings - hinges...www.themouthpiece.comI've had it now for just over a week, and feel I'm starting to get the feel of it - and it is definitely different to the Boosey & Hawkes Regent (circa 1974) I've been playing up till now. I started off the first few days by using the old Besson 7 mouthpiece that I'd used with the Regent - then...www.themouthpiece.comHaving (finally!) got my breathing problems sorted out, and reverted to playing baritone, I'm saving up to buy my own (currently using a Besson New Standard, on loan from my band). I doubt it will be this side of Christmas, so it's not a rush job. The one I have my eye on, which would be within...www.themouthpiece.com
I don’t think that Jack would claim to be a Star Player - neither would I - but IIRC he was pleased and it gives you a start point. My guess is that Wessex and Packers get their instruments from the same manufacture, you pays your money and takes your choice. For the more serious player I’d expect that Wessex would be the better option and for students Packer might deliver the goods.
Good evening, Col - I've never seen (or, to my knowledge, heard) an Odyssey, so I can't help you directly, and my Packer 173 Baritone is uncompensated; I presume as you're looking at the OBH 1400 that you want a compensated model.Does anyone have any views on the Odyssey OBH1400 baritone? The horn looks good but how does it play?
What cheaper end horns do people feel are good value for money?
Many thanks C
Re. the euph getting a bit much to fill; I know how that feels, Col. About two and a half years back, after heart surgery, I got a lung infection which really messed up my breathing, compounding the fact that in my late teens I got exposed to phosgene gas which probably left some permanent damage (industrial accident, long story); after the chest infection, I could play no more than a handful of notes before I was knackered, and I thought I'd have to give up playing completely. Then a friend let me have a go on a tenor horn, and I found that I could play that - though it needs more pressure to play, the tenor doesn't need the volume required by a baritone (in my case, after five months of the docs trying me on various puffers, we found one that suited, and I was able to revert to baritone). I suspect that you'll find the same in switching from euph to baritone.Thanks Jack for that comprehensive review. Things have moved on a bit. I'm getting a 373 sent to me for trial by Band Supplies in Leeds. I'm in the fortunate position of having a Wessex Euph to part ex and they've given me a good deal. Anticipating your next question, why am I trading in the euph which is a very good horn? I'm one of the 'older' players and the euph is now getting a bit too much for me, also my grandson is taking an interest and it's a bit too big for him too so I'm hoping a bari will satisfy us both. Thanks for the offer of trying yours but I live in Lancashire which is in more stringent lockdown measures at the moment so no non essential travel. I'll let you know how I get on when I receive the horn from Band Supplies.
Hi, Col,Hi Jack, hope you’re well. I’ve had the JP baritone for a good few weeks now and can give you my opinion on it. Bottom line is that it’s well made and packaged, sounds good and stands up very well to more expensive instruments. Initially I found the valves a little dirty and the 3rd valve sticking slightly but after cleaning and oiling it’s fine. The spit valves are in a slightly different position to normal (or at least what I’m used to) but that’s no problem and may even be in a better position and one on the 3rd valve slide is a bonus. The feel and weight of the instrument testify to the quality of it. The sound I’m getting is more marching trombone than sonorous but I think that’s just me, it is well centred though and I like it. The case is substantial and well padded and the unit comes with an Ultra-Pure maintenance kit and a mouthpiece that is described as a DW6BS but has no markings on it and is probably a clone, and this is where I’ve been having a problem.
Before I got the JP I had, for a while, the use of an old Besson BE955 that came with a mouthpiece marked a Virtuosi 6. I have no idea what this was but thought it may be similar to a Wicks SM6 and it was ok with the Besson. The Wicks 6BS clone is way too small for me so I tried it with the Virtuosi 6 but it just doesn’t sound right. Some years ago I had a Courtois baritone and used a Wicks 4AY with it (essentially a small bore euph m/p) which I still have so tried that but couldn’t get a decent high range. So I bought a Wicks 4BS which I thought would be a good compromise but don’t get the depth of tone I get with the 4AY. I’ve also tried a 61/2 AL and a 9BS both of which don’t suit. I’m now back and persevering with the 4AY with which I seem to be getting better. All this has no bearing, however on the instrument which, as I say, I’m very happy with.
Hope you have a good Christmas and stay safe.