I found the threads for Symphonix but all the links to the page are dead, and Google doesn't bring up anything relevant. And Teamer is very much directed at sports groups. I've looked at other programs like that, but it's not really ideal for bands.There's been a few threads about this in the past which may be worth a quick read for info about different software - try searching for Muzodo, Symphonix and Teamer for starters
I was going to ask you what your experiences have been, to get some info about what other bands have done well, or done poorly, so we can avoid going down the wrong path. But it doesn't really seem like you're up for constructive conversations. I hope you find a band that offers you what you're looking for.How perceptive Jen, or should I call you Sherlock?
Maybe a well-run organisation doesn't have to chase players for attendance checks because they don't want to miss a thing (inspired by Aerosmith). Exceptional absences are easy to manage.How so? Are you seriously advocating that someone in a band's management team should have the responsibility of contacting and speaking to every member of a band individually to ascertain that member's possible presence or absence for each and every rehearsal and engagement? Would you yourself have the time and resources to undertake such a task? The use of technology simply removes the manual drudgery from mundane and repetitive tasks. You seem to me to be attempting to play devils advocate in a situation where there is no real dispute ...
I think our approaches are too polar to accept and learn from each other.I was going to ask you what your experiences have been, to get some info about what other bands have done well, or done poorly, so we can avoid going down the wrong path. But it doesn't really seem like you're up for constructive conversations. I hope you find a band that offers you what you're looking for.
We used to harvest wheat using scythes, as well ...Here's an idea...
- Display the gigs prominently in the bandroom
- Draw attention to them regularly, particularly if there are new or changed gigs
- Assume every one will be at every event (making sure every member knows this is the basis that the band operates)
- If someone can't be there, they tell the secretary (or whoever), they write it down and get a dep if necessary. They write the dep's name down
- Speak to those who are prone to be absent or let you down to confirm they can definitely attend (you'd need to do this under any system)
Ah - you're a farm labourer. Let me try to explain more simply in that case:We used to harvest wheat using scythes, as well ...
What you're describing is more or less exactly what Muzodo does; it just does it electronically. I don't see the problem.
... So, we can be confident that every member is aware of every event.
- With Muzudo, every member has to take action for every event.
... So, we cannot be confident that every member is aware of every event.
- With the alternative suggestion, every member only needs to take action if they cannot attend
I can absolutely second that.As an MD’s view…..
I want to know IN ADVANCE if people are going to be missing from a job so I know what deps to pull in, or whether we can run with a gap.
Likewise I want to know IN ADVANCE if people are missing from rehearsals so that I can plan the music I’m putting in front of the band (or for contest prep, which sections of the piece I’m going to be working on)
I've seen that kind of thing work in some circumstances, however it can only work where a band has a permanent rehearsal facility; those bands who have to use hired premises - school/village halls, and the like - can't easily make that work, I don't think ...Of alternate systems, one band I play for has a white board – which has rehearsals on one side, jobs on the other. You put your name on the board if youre not going to be there.
Another band has a “crosses” board for jobs – so you put a cross on the board if you cant play – same sort of thing
Now now, no need to get personal ole chap.Well, we could go round in circles like this endlessly ( - I was going to say "until the cows come home" geddit? But I won't ...) to no good end, so I'm not going to.
The bottom line seems to me to be that your attitude appears to suggest that you resent a band's administration team making any attempt to pin you down to saying "Yes, I'll definitely be there".
And my experience says that with that attitude you're unlikely to be welcome in most of the bands that I know.
Apology accepted.I'm not getting personal. As you rightly say, I don't know who you are, so I can only form opinions based on what you write, and I'm not accusing you of anything; that's why I'm careful to use language like "your attitude appears to suggest", rather than "your attitude is", precisely because I don't know.