Richard Dyson
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The details of the 2004 All England Masters have been announced including the competing bands. Click on http://www.thebrassherald.com for the full story.
All England Masters 2004
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I thought that as well, Andy. It'll be interestig to see whether any of those bands who have not chosen to compete previously will accept the invitation.
Presumably the ballot for choice of test piece will be between those bands that confirm their intention to take part?
Presumably the ballot for choice of test piece will be between those bands that confirm their intention to take part?
johnflugel
Active Member
Harrisons Dream...bring it on!!! :lol:
John
Rothwell Temps
John
Rothwell Temps
I think it is probably fair to say that since competitive banding began there have always been some bands who, when it comes to contesting, have limited their appearances to two or three events in a year. If they have a full concert programme, and have already established their reputation, they may well feel that a concert engagement will be more productive - quite apart from the commercial benefits involved.
Richard Dyson
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Apologies Andy, yes these are invited bands the article on The Brass Herald does make this clear.
Sorry for any confusion
Sorry for any confusion
johnflugel
Active Member
Just out of interest, which piece out of the six does everyone fancy, as a player taking part or listener?
A Downland Suite - Ireland
Between the Moon and Mexico - Sparke
Connotations - Gregson
Harrison's Dream - Graham
Salamander - McCabe
The New Jerusalem - Wilby
As a player, I would love a crack at Harrisons Dream but as someone who wants to get as good a result as possible, I would choose 'A Downland Suite' - a piece that will not seperate the big name/star soloist bands from the rest.
Listening wise, I would want to hear 'Harrisons Dream' again because it was a great day at the RAH when they used it 2000. Cory, Fodens were awesome that day and YBS were shafted into 17th place :shock:
What do we think?
John
Rothwell Temps
A Downland Suite - Ireland
Between the Moon and Mexico - Sparke
Connotations - Gregson
Harrison's Dream - Graham
Salamander - McCabe
The New Jerusalem - Wilby
As a player, I would love a crack at Harrisons Dream but as someone who wants to get as good a result as possible, I would choose 'A Downland Suite' - a piece that will not seperate the big name/star soloist bands from the rest.
Listening wise, I would want to hear 'Harrisons Dream' again because it was a great day at the RAH when they used it 2000. Cory, Fodens were awesome that day and YBS were shafted into 17th place :shock:
What do we think?
John
Rothwell Temps
iggmeister
Member
I dont know Harrison's Dream, but I'm not too sure about Salamander- wont please the audience member who like a good ol' tune to whistle on the way home.
I like Connotations but would opt for a crack at Between the Moon and Mehico! I wouldn't go for New Jerusalem just because Atlantic (Wilby) used an off stage cornet solo only 2 years ago. Perhaps in a few more years time though.
I like Downland Suite but dont think the more fancied bands will go for that though. Time will tell.
Igg
PS I had no inklings or hot gossip about these pieces. Shall have to have a word to my source!!
I like Connotations but would opt for a crack at Between the Moon and Mehico! I wouldn't go for New Jerusalem just because Atlantic (Wilby) used an off stage cornet solo only 2 years ago. Perhaps in a few more years time though.
I like Downland Suite but dont think the more fancied bands will go for that though. Time will tell.
Igg
PS I had no inklings or hot gossip about these pieces. Shall have to have a word to my source!!
I like Salamander! It's a wonderfully descriptive and evocative piece of music, like much of McCabe's work. Maybe it's a bit lacking in a "tune", but it's got colours and images in plenty. I have a recording of Grimethorpe playing it at the '97 Europeans and it's worth listening to a couple of times to get the feel of it!
Harrisson's Dream is just class in a tin, and Downland Suite is underrated I feel - not as techical as some of the others, but some real subtlety required.
Must get recordings of the rest of them!
Harrisson's Dream is just class in a tin, and Downland Suite is underrated I feel - not as techical as some of the others, but some real subtlety required.
Must get recordings of the rest of them!
midwalesman
Member
Test choice....
Had a look at the options a few days ago and have thought about what piece I'd like to play. I remember Harrison's Dream and its tricky beginning for back row, but a nice piece all the less. Having played all the pieces before (not necessarily in contest) I would really, really like to play Salamander. There are a few reasons why I would like this piece :-
(1) On the "go away and whistle a melody" I think there are a few tunes in there to remember.
(2) Having played at the last two contests and played the more "conservative", "tune based" pieces I would like to percieve that the movement is at least crawling forward musically by playing more contemporary-ish music.
(3) There are tonal colours and technical excersise in a piece which has been neglected for a long time.
(4) I feel that a good reception to a piece by John McCabe would probably be due, especially after the lack of "understanding" when he wrote Maunsel Forts for the Open.
Just my thoughts anyway!
Had a look at the options a few days ago and have thought about what piece I'd like to play. I remember Harrison's Dream and its tricky beginning for back row, but a nice piece all the less. Having played all the pieces before (not necessarily in contest) I would really, really like to play Salamander. There are a few reasons why I would like this piece :-
(1) On the "go away and whistle a melody" I think there are a few tunes in there to remember.
(2) Having played at the last two contests and played the more "conservative", "tune based" pieces I would like to percieve that the movement is at least crawling forward musically by playing more contemporary-ish music.
(3) There are tonal colours and technical excersise in a piece which has been neglected for a long time.
(4) I feel that a good reception to a piece by John McCabe would probably be due, especially after the lack of "understanding" when he wrote Maunsel Forts for the Open.
Just my thoughts anyway!
jamie the euph
New Member
I have to vote for the Downland suite hands down cause i think that it is a great piece of music and i prefer it more than the other five!but i love the secound movement. my vote has to go to the Downland Suite!
Accidental
Supporting Member
I'd vote for Salamander purely because I think John McCabe's music deserves more attention - no other composer paints such good pictures in my head, and I think its ok not to "get it" on the first (or even 5th!) listen.
As a player, I'd love a crack at Harrison's Dream or the Moon and Mexico, because Sparke and Graham both write such fab parts for horns/baris.
As a player, I'd love a crack at Harrison's Dream or the Moon and Mexico, because Sparke and Graham both write such fab parts for horns/baris.
satchmo shaz
Active Member
moon and mexico for me! :wink:
uncle eric
Member
hello friends
me and our ada always make the trip to cambridge, armed with a handsomely packed sandwich box!, because a friend of her brothers lives in the area. my very favourite out of all the list is 'a new jerusalem' beautiful.
i do hope that the two really big names grimethorpe and black dyke attend. i'm sure that would make everyones day.
best wishes, and lets look forward to an exciting days contesting!
uncle eric
me and our ada always make the trip to cambridge, armed with a handsomely packed sandwich box!, because a friend of her brothers lives in the area. my very favourite out of all the list is 'a new jerusalem' beautiful.
i do hope that the two really big names grimethorpe and black dyke attend. i'm sure that would make everyones day.
best wishes, and lets look forward to an exciting days contesting!
uncle eric