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Thread: Why not valve trombones?

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    Why not valve trombones?

    I was just musing about our inability to recruit a solo trombone and realised that our problems would be solved over night if the contesting rules allowed the use of the valved variety.

    Many jazz musicians on the valve version make sounds just about indistinguishable from the slide so there should be little loss of tone colour. Glissandi are all but confined to the 'novelty' numbers so no real problem there.

    So why not? Bring on the valve twiddling trombonists I say!
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    Do the rules allow/stop us using Euphs with slides instead of valves?
    The problem with the whole valve-trom thing is that just as Bari players are failed euph players, valve trom players would inevitably be failed bari players. The musical depths plumbed here would be low indeed

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    In the same way that BBb players are failed EEb players?
    Last edited by Hells Bones; 22.10.2010 at 22:14.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hells Bones View Post
    In the same way that BBb players are failed EEb players?
    excuse me... at championship level BBb bass is just as challenging as EEb!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hells Bones View Post
    In the same way that BBb players are failed EEb players?
    touche. You got me there to be fair

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    Errr Don't want to dampen your bonfire, but I hardly think Paganini is a "Novelty"item. How would you propose the trombone parts be played on a valve trombone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hells Bones View Post
    In the same way that BBb players are failed EEb players?
    Iv just moved from BBb to EEb bass... does that mean im slightly better now? Hahaa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hells Bones View Post
    In the same way that BBb players are failed EEb players?
    I think you may have this back to front

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    Let the EEb vs. BBb argument begin!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hells Bones View Post
    Let the EEb vs. BBb argument begin!!!
    Good, that saves me the trouble of explaining why valve trombones are banned...

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    Fine, but I'd still like to know if/why slide euphs/baris are not allowed either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Splitzer View Post
    Fine, but I'd still like to know if/why slide euphs/baris are not allowed either.
    Has one been manufactured?

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    Thats just being pedantic - give me a couple of hours in the garage tomorrow and I'll see what I can do. They laughed at Adolphe Sax at first.

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    To be honest, it really doesn't take long to learn trombone if you play another instrument already. Took me about a week to learn bass trombone to about 3rd section standard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Splitzer View Post
    Thats just being pedantic - give me a couple of hours in the garage tomorrow and I'll see what I can do. They laughed at Adolphe Sax at first.
    Is there a like function?



    Quote Originally Posted by blue juice View Post
    To be honest, it really doesn't take long to learn trombone if you play another instrument already. Took me about a week to learn bass trombone to about 3rd section standard.
    If you think you mastered 3rd section bass trombone in a week, you're underestimating 3rd section bass trombonists.
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