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    Promotion/Demotion tables for Regionals

    I know that this has been posted before for a few years ago but has anyone got any idea where you can get a copy of these apart from being in each year's regional programme.

    Its the table that tells you how many points you are on to work out whether or not you are up, staying or down for the following year

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    London and Southern Counties publishes it on their website. I expect that other regions do too. I don't know if there is a collated, nation-wide table though.

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    My understanding is that you simply add up the position of the bands from the last two years at the areas. For bands that don't turn up then they get automatic last place i.e. if six bands turn up and two bands withdraw then the two bands that don't turn up get 7 points each. This year's results will then be added to those totals.

    Porthaethwy got 5th in 2004 and 4th in 2005, 5+ 4 = 9 points
    Beaumaris B on 3+7 = 10 points.
    Trefor on 6+6 = 12 points (& rumoured not to be attending in 2006)
    Ebbw Vale on 7+7= 14 points
    Harlech on 8+7 = 15 points

    I'm not sure whether it's two or three bands that go down? Looks like Porthaethwy are pretty safe anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by hellraiser
    My understanding is that you simply add up the position of the bands from the last two years at the areas. For bands that don't turn up then they get automatic last place i.e. if six bands turn up and two bands withdraw then the two bands that don't turn up get 7 points each. This year's results will then be added to those totals.

    Porthaethwy got 5th in 2004 and 4th in 2005, 5+ 4 = 9 points
    Beaumaris B on 3+7 = 10 points.
    Trefor on 6+6 = 12 points (& rumoured not to be attending in 2006)
    Ebbw Vale on 7+7= 14 points
    Harlech on 8+7 = 15 points

    I'm not sure whether it's two or three bands that go down? Looks like Porthaethwy are pretty safe anyway

    Cheers Rhodri

    Just wondering who had been promoted/demoted and to also see how many bands are in the 3rd section as quite s few have not competed over the last couple of years.

    Strange to see that only a few regional committees have websites and actually publish this - surprised that TMP or 4BR have not published these yet - an idea for the mods perhaps?
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    Yes it would be useful to have this kind of thing made clear to everyone in advance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveR
    London and Southern Counties publishes it on their website. I expect that other regions do too. I don't know if there is a collated, nation-wide table though.

    Cheers

    DaveR
    West of England BBA doesn't even have a website! I think some clever person should do all the maths and put it somewhere on tMP or 4BR! and then it could be kept uptodate more easily then!
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    Quote Originally Posted by meandmycornet
    West of England BBA doesn't even have a website! I think some clever person should do all the maths and put it somewhere on tMP or 4BR! and then it could be kept uptodate more easily then!
    Well volunteered Fi!


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    Quote Originally Posted by meandmycornet
    West of England BBA doesn't even have a website! I think some clever person should do all the maths and put it somewhere on tMP or 4BR! and then it could be kept uptodate more easily then!
    i agree it would make sense to have everyones for the whole country in the same place. it would make sense to be on 4BR, they cover all the contests show it wouldn't be that hard.

    the whole thing just confuses me!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by stopher
    I know that this has been posted before for a few years ago but has anyone got any idea where you can get a copy of these apart from being in each year's regional programme.

    Its the table that tells you how many points you are on to work out whether or not you are up, staying or down for the following year

    Ta

    Chris
    As secretary of my band, I know that I get a copy from our area secretary (West of England). Check with your secretary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveR
    Well volunteered Fi!
    If you give me all the stats and how to calculate it all.... I will.... try!
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    Doh!!! Looks like you've given yourself a right mission there!
    4br result archive perhaps plus contact every regions' secretaries to get lists of competing bands and those that didn't!!
    See you in 2008 then?!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveR
    London and Southern Counties publishes it on their website.Cheers DaveR
    Makes a change for L & SC to lead the way !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by meandmycornet
    If you give me all the stats and how to calculate it all.... I will.... try!

    being slightly sad, I have a spreadsheet for the south west going back to 2000 if anyone want s it pm me and I'll email it.

    I thinks it about 98% accurate back to 2000
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    Quote Originally Posted by PHA161
    Makes a change for L & SC to lead the way !!
    I'm guessing you haven't been to many contests run by other people then? I have, and noone does it better than the Scaba & LSC people imho.

    Back on topic.... we get the tables given out with our scores and adjudicators comments on the day, so all the LSC bands have known their gradings since last March. Seems a bit odd that the other areas don't do that too.
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    Ignore him Alex, he's just getting grumpy in his old age
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