I love cheese!!!! [Archive] - theMouthPiece.com

Keppler

28.11.2002, 11:01

it says the bases need to play 'funky' :shock: :?

And just what's wrong with "funky" then? eh? eh?

Seriously, I think this stuff is great! Maybe not musically all the time, but if it wasn't for the likes of Mr Bernarts and De Haske etc, all of us mere mortal bands would be stuck. In fairness to them, they bring out topical music, (some good, some not so) they bring it out fast, and it's not overly complicated. If I have a complaint about Just Music (for example) it's that some of their published arrangements are needlessly complex.
When we look for this sort of material, we want it now, and we want it easy. It usually has a short lifetime anyway, so we can't afford to wait 6 months for the arrangement, and then another couple of weeks learning it. Young band music-choosers have no patience.. ;)

If it's cheese on the menu, make it Dutch please...

McEuphie

28.11.2002, 12:53

You can't beat a good TV theme:
Coronation Street is on the go at the moment and how about James Bond Themes to be topical.

sparkling_quavers

28.11.2002, 14:48

Well I have never met a bass player who is 'funky'! :shock:

Fishsta

28.11.2002, 15:22

I've met a funky bass player. Once. :D

One of the cheesiest pieces I've heard was "Barbie Girl", that first song that Aqua did.

And I think I should point out that Bohemian Rhapsody is NOT cheesy! It's the greatest song of all time!

Yes, I am a Queen fan.... :lol:

Keppler

28.11.2002, 15:24

Well I have never met a bass player who is 'funky'! :shock:

Ah I keep telling you you should drop over for a rehearsal.. ours might turn out to be the funky variety..

ah no, hang on, they're just sarcastic and think they're funny.... just the regular common or garden type then..

spookybiking

28.11.2002, 15:27

some cheesy music is ok but the trad stuff is good as well i can't decide

dave jake

28.11.2002, 19:52

I m funky and witty so is my mate its the Ebs that let us down :evil: :evil:

rutty

29.11.2002, 06:01

And I think I should point out that Bohemian Rhapsody is NOT cheesy! It's the greatest song of all time!

Nothing wrong with liking Queen!

It is cheesy though, as far as Brass Band music is concerned - I agree it's one of the greatest rock tunes of all time 8)

Keppler

29.11.2002, 09:47

Nothing wrong with liking Queen!
It is cheesy though, as far as Brass Band music is concerned

What's your definition of "cheesy"? Something an ordinary audience might actually like?

rutty

29.11.2002, 10:27

Nothing wrong with liking Queen!
It is cheesy though, as far as Brass Band music is concerned

What's your definition of "cheesy"? Something an ordinary audience might actually like?
No, it's something that's turned into a bit of a cliche - I love Bohemian Rhapsody as a rock tune, but as a brass band arrangement, it has a certain popular appeal. Cheesy in my book doesn't necessary mean bad, but something that might put a big grin on yer face! Like certain Tom Jones arrangements....

dave jake

30.11.2002, 18:18

Cheesiest piece of all time must be Floral Dance ,sad thing is still goes down well at park jobs. It does my head in :roll:

Fishsta

01.12.2002, 11:54

What about cheesy solos?

The only one I can think of is The Acrobat... great crowd-pleaser, though!

Roger Thorne

01.12.2002, 12:34

The Floral Dance -

I attended the 25th Anniversary concert of the 'Floral Dance' at Huddersfield recently where both the present Brighouse & Rastrick band performed alongside the B&R band of 1975.

They performed the 'Floral Dance' three times at that concert and the audience loved it.

If it wasn't for B&R and the Floral Dance pushing Brass Bands into the limelight in 1975 Brass Bands today may still be considered 'Out of the Ark."

tubatu

01.12.2002, 20:48

Tom Jones in Concert may be a cheesy piece, but the audience loves it. We recently played this at Portsmouth Beer Festival, just imagine over a thousand drunks singing to Delilah, it was wonderful!

dave jake

01.12.2002, 22:07

Roger is right of course :oops: :oops:
still cheesy though :wink:

picju96

06.12.2002, 19:56

We have Lord of the Rings and Harry Potter they are great !

We also have Thiller and that is cheese-mania!!!

it says the bases need to play 'funky' :shock: :?

We also have both of them, (LOTR + Harry) they're great, but solo cornet parts are awful! :lol:

sparkling_quavers

07.12.2002, 13:29

yeah I have to agree with that! LOTR's part is awful....harry potter isn't that bad....but have you seen the rep part? talk about making them play everything!!1
:shock:

Wonky_Baton

16.12.2002, 23:36

We do "You Can Keep Your Hat On" from the monty film :lol: which has more cheese than a cows udder. Least I did until the band burned it. Philistines!! :cry:

Christmas cheese or should that be camenbert with cranberry sauce has to be Slades Merry Christmas Everybody - Absolute Class!! :lol:

Well I have never met a bass player who is 'funky'!

Maybe not in Nottingham but it is full of funky and hunky basses in the north east - me included!! :shock:

sparkling_quavers

16.12.2002, 23:52

:lol: :shock: 8)

rutty

17.12.2002, 08:42

We do "You Can Keep Your Hat On" from the monty film :lol: which has more cheese than a cows udder. Least I did until the band burned it. Philistines!! :cry:

I don't know what the bass part is like, but it has one of the most terrible back row cornet parts in the history of brass band arrangements. :cry: Trust me, it was burned for a good reason.

Wonky_Baton

17.12.2002, 23:47

The bass part is doo doo dut de de doo all the way through, although I have never played it :D

rutty

18.12.2002, 08:28

The bass part is doo doo dut de de doo all the way through, although I have never played it :D

The rep part goes "de de de de de de de de de de de de de de" ad nauseam... :cry:

Wonky_Baton

18.12.2002, 22:37

If you'd played it doo doo doo doo doo doo instead you would have got a lot of enjoyment out of it :D . No I take your point but the overall effect was class. The horns had a similar part to yours I remember but its swings and roundabouts. Some pieces are better than others but even if I had a **** part, which when playing bass is quite often, I didn't let it effect my judgement of a piece. The audience found it fun anyway. The euphonium part was good-which I have played 8) The band were never bored anyway cos they enjoyed watching me making a prat of myself swinging my a*se when conducting... :wink:

rutty

19.12.2002, 08:23

I take your point - I've been spoiled a bit having played Solo cornet for such a long time. Now I'm on rep, which is a fantastic part on the whole, all of a sudden there's the occasion piece that requires um chucks or in the case of the Keep You Hat On arrangement, death by quavers (also apparent in Troika).

I appreciate that the audience might like it, but please don't make me play it! :wink:

hornblower

04.01.2003, 12:33

true Wonky we do like seeing you dance...erm well a close description of what you do.... I love the gladiator arrangements and the barbarian horde played by grimethorpe is better than the original orchestration!!! :lol:

I also like jurrasic park when we play it, good horn parts!!!

stephen2001

04.01.2003, 19:51

If you are looking for cheesy music, anything published by Baernarts music (or something like that!). I think Leave Your Hat On is by that publisher and all other arrangements are pretty much the same with really awful bass parts but some cool Euph stuff. It is also v v v v repetative!
Having said that, I think they do a semi decent arrangement of Born Free!

Roger Thorne

04.01.2003, 21:02

stephen2001

04.01.2003, 21:09

I think you'll find Born Free (John Barry) was arranged by Alan Catherall and published by Wright & Round and not a product of the Bernaerts stable - Yes definitely, because the baritones and second trombone parts had more than three different notes to play and the basses had semiquavers!

There's definately a Baernart's arrangement of Born Free as well as the Catherall arrangement. It's just not as well known I don't think. Either that or bands steer well clear of anything Baernarts related!!!

Keppler

06.01.2003, 09:59

Please don't start the old hobby of Bernaerts-bashing. Music from this particular publisher fills a sizable gap in the repertoire of bands, and also is accessible to a different and wide audience-space. There is a lot of it, and it does the job.
If it wasn't for old Frankie B, certain "lower-section" bands would have had problems finding suitable new music, especially 5 or 6 years ago.

Also, while taking nothing away from the original Dutch arrangers, maybe people here would find names like Steve Sykes and Darroll Barry more recognisable

Neal
Proclaimed and Unabashed Bernaerts Fan..

Heather

06.01.2003, 10:37

Darroll Barry...excellent arranger/composer.
His 'Salford Sinfonietta' is fantastic.
The arrangements of his I've played have all been ok with interesting parts (even for the baritones!) but I do know from a friend of mine that a few that I've never played are a bit 'cheesy'.

Wonky_Baton

06.01.2003, 12:19

I also like jurrasic park when we play it, good horn parts!!!

I feel as though I am being backed into a corner here, Miss Hornblower. However seen as you have posted such a lovely avatar I will put Jurassic Park in this years programme. :roll: However even I am going to struggle to dance to that one :?

Would you like me to get Alan Catherall to sign your copy?? :lol:

sparkling_quavers

06.01.2003, 12:28

I thought you were designing a new avatar, wonky!? :roll:

Roger Thorne

06.01.2003, 17:49

Keppler wrote:

Please don't start the old hobby of Bernaerts-bashing. Music from this particular publisher fills a sizable gap in the repertoire of bands, and also is accessible to a different and wide audience-space. There is a lot of it, and it does the job.
If it wasn't for old Frankie B, certain "lower-section" bands would have had problems finding suitable new music, especially 5 or 6 years ago.

I quite agree, Bernaerts music has saved the day on many a concert programme over the last few years. The only criticisms from my players are that he uses the same instrumentation for every arrangement, and certain members of the band do get a little bit cheesed off just playing 'long notes' all night.
We were recently asked to play a complete two hour concert programme of Christmas Music and included about 6 Bernaert arrangements (the up-tempo pieces) but it must have sounded like we were playing the same piece over and over again!

One very favourable comment about Bernaerts Music is the speed in which they despatch their music. I have never had to wait longer than five days for any of their music to arrive.

Keppler

06.01.2003, 18:15

We were recently asked to play a complete two hour concert programme of Christmas Music and included about 6 Bernaert arrangements (the up-tempo pieces) but it must have sounded like we were playing the same piece over and over again!

All Christmas Music sounds the same Roger.... ;)

I take your point about the instrumentation playing the pads. I'm not saying it's perfect. But it's playable.
I've seen players and conductors turn up their noses at the sight of the outside of an FB score. Hardly a professional attitude IMHO. At the end of the day if the band is happy to play them occasionally or all night (and bands are) then they're a good thing. It ticks me off when a publisher gets bad press from a few people who think they'll turn their nose up at it. That inevitably spreads and colours other people's opionions, and bingo - there's a person out of business and a big hole in the market.
I'm sure, you, as a publisher yourself, are aware of the possible dangers of this.

End of rant.

Roger Thorne

06.01.2003, 19:09

I couldn't agree more.

As far as I am aware the only bad press he gets is on his instrumentation and the lack of imagination he puts into the 'endings' of his arrangements. But it's a tried and tested formula which obviously works and is successful.
He has followed in the foot steps of Edrich Siebert and has supplied the band world with a wealth of material playable by ALL sections. Even the lower section bands can get his material up to concert standard in a very short space of time and that obviously adds a 'feel good' factor to any rehearsal.
I'll be honest, I actually like the majority of his material and he has produced some very good arrangements.
As you say there are one or two people who do turn their noses up at his arrangements but I don't think they'll put this man out of business.

Fishsta

07.01.2003, 00:21

I'm sorry to do this, but I'm a bit of a "Bernaerts Basher".

When I was on Trombone, it was very annoying playing only 2 different notes throughout a whole piece.

However, there's a guy who publishes under the banner of Bernaerts Music called Jan Van Kraydonck (or something like that) who has done some very good stuff so far, which, whilst being playable by all sections (no doubt about this), were sufficiently varied enough to stop the boredom creeping in.

Fishsta

07.01.2003, 00:26

In saying that, by the way, I know FB has done a couple of good arrangements which are fun to play (and listen to), but my personal opinion (and that's all this is) is that I don't like MOST of his stuff.

I personally don't see the problem in saying I don't like his music here... I could say the same about Eminem (although I feel much stronger about that... I don't consider it music, to be honest), but there could easily be someone here who thinks he's a lyrical genius.

It's all personal taste, so I'm not trying to start an argument. :)

Keppler

07.01.2003, 09:50

Not arguing with you in the least bit Ian.
Not liking the music is allowed.
Some of the old FB stuff is very dodgy (sorry Frank) - bad memories of "Take my breath away"

That wasn't the point I was trying to make however, and as I think it's made, I won't continue the blathering any longer..

hornblower

07.01.2003, 11:14

cheers wonky! Altho I like gladiator better :) :wink: :mrgreen:

Thegroupies

07.01.2003, 19:26

Only being recently introduced to Brass Band music I found the "Cheesy" music an interlude to some of the more trad being played, this is not to say we dont't enjoy the traditional, but to expect the uninitiated to sit through, some of the more recent test pieces at Championship and 1st Section levels surely challeges even the stallworts amongst you!!. :shock:

Cheesy music gets bums on seats! :wink:

Wonky_Baton

08.01.2003, 23:49

I thought you were designing a new avatar, wonky!?

I looked and looked and looked nowt. I have had to do this one off 46 years ago :oops:

Roger Thorne

09.01.2003, 01:51

I thought you were designing a new avatar, wonky!?

I looked and looked and looked nowt. I have had to do this one off 46 years ago :oops:

Wonky, I reckon you must be browsing through your family photo album here. I'm sure your Avatar was playing a bass not half-an-hour ago :!:

I hope we're not going to get the holiday snaps out :cry: :cry:

Wonky_Baton

09.01.2003, 19:55

Caught me out eh Roger. I thought i'd got away with it. :wink:

Not keen on a photo at all but I cannot find a decent doings anywhere and everyone else seems to have a photo too. :cry: I cannot make one cos I've got no talent and I thought the bass photo was the only one until I came across me in my james bond costume 8)

Anyway as soon as I come across an avatar that I like it will be gone. Its better than a blank space:P

Owen

21.01.2003, 07:55

We don't play much cheese at band, which is a shame, but we do have a ten piece where the fromage connoisseur can dip their bread in a true fondue!

Having said that - we did play Angels for a while. Strangely, not cheesy when Robbie does it, but the brass band arrangement.......

*shudder*

Owen

Boneman

21.01.2003, 13:05

Owen,

Hi how are you?

I seem to remember us playing a particularly cheesy version of 'The A Team' at the LUUMS Band!

My band regulary finishes with Hootenanny - At a recent (Xmas) concert the Audience was offered a choice between Jingle Bells or Hootenanny as an encore - the vote was 100% for Hootenanny!

Simon.

LU-Brasser

21.01.2003, 13:36

alternation they're not bad, but not continuously such music

Owen

21.01.2003, 14:54

Simon! Good to see you!

I seem to remember that the Leeds Uni Brass Concerts featured many such gems as the A Team theme - do you recall "Beethovens Beano"? I think I still have some of the recordings that were made of the concerts somewhere - I must try to hunt them out. Is it my imagination or did we play "Stage Centre" and "Music" at every concert?

Planning to try and get a reunion together for after the areas - it has been suggested that a daytime, rather than evening, gathering might be better, to suit all those with families! I have added Bryan Robson to this list of former members. He is alive and well and living in Essex. Not playing but looking to restart this year.

See you soon!

Owen

Boneman

21.01.2003, 16:50

Owen,

Yes I seem to remember plenty of cheese at the Band! - Do you recall the rehearsal where we spent 2 hours practising the opening note of Shepherds Song!

Be good to get a reunion together! - By the way there is a thread in this forum about famous players - Perhaps Bryan Robson qualifies for that section!

Hope to see you soon

Simon.

Owen

21.01.2003, 22:21

Oh my! I had forgotten that evening, but it all comes flooding back - what was the name of the guy that took the rehearsal? He was a cornet player as I recall, but I can't for the life of me remember what he was called! He was seriously into those first couple of bars though wasn't he?

Got any ideas for what we could do for a reunion? I am open to suggestions and venues - doesn't have to be Leeds, now that hardly anyone lives in the area anymore!

How are things going at Jackfield? Say hi to Kath for me!

See you soon

Owen

midwalesman

22.01.2003, 18:14

Cheese and more cheese and more cheese....then a bout of sicknes!!

I might be in the minority, actually looking at the stats, I am!! But once you play 30 concerts a year and then you play cheese and more cheese, week in and week out and record cheese then it gets to the point where it's pouring out of ya ears. The punters do like cheese, I cannot deny that but our expectation that we should play only cheese is wrong. I am currently taking a PhD in the reaction of audiences to brass band music, and as part of the course I question members of the audience (approximately 6 -7 people per concert ). Hmmmm...yeah I might be tedious, but at least at the end of it I may have some answers and the guessing game about what audiences want or expect may be replaced by hard facts. Of the people I have asked so far, and these include people from various backgrounds, ages and geographical areas, most have said that they would not be worried if bands attempted to play contemporary music, or at least test pieces in a varied programme.
As a player I find myself getting well and truly cheesed off, soz bout the pun!! I'm glad that the person who came to the Brighouse enjoyed himself, and to be honest the place was rockin'! Other venues also enjoy the Floral Dance, but imagine playing that piece every concert that you do..mainly at about 10pm on a Saturday night. Yep, the Floral dance and brased off brought bands to the public eye...but personally I'd pull my hair out if in 20 years Grimey would be playing Orange Juice and William Tell every concert. Every CD I have done has been of popular music, no test pieces or contemporary music anywhere near the recording studio.
Pieces like Bohemian Rhapsody and Harry P are nice to play don't get me wrong but the novelty soon runs out !
I congratulate arrangers, and hope they continue to do their often great arrangements but I'm hoping that at some point we can perform concerts of original music for bands and not a whole concert of other genres music.

MidWalesMan

( Ne comments I make on here do not reflect any band policy or statement they are simply my own )

Roger Thorne

23.01.2003, 11:09

midwalesman wrote:

But once you play 30 concerts a year and then you play cheese and more cheese, week in and week out and record cheese then it gets to the point where it's pouring out of ya ears.

What do you consider to be Cheesey Music?

The B&R concert in Huddersfield included:

Introduction to Act III - Lohengrin - Wagner
Festival Overture - Shostakovitch
Nessun Dorma - Puccini
Nabucco - Verdi
Hungarian Rhapsody No. 2 - Liszt

I'd hardly call that cheese! Admittedely the Elvis selection and three renditions of the Floral Dance might be considered cheesey by anyone's standards, but the remaining concert was made up of classic Brass Band reportoire, albeit transcriptions, that I would expect a band like B&R to play.

I'm not too sure about playing concerts that are made up entirely of original reportoire - I think we would see a very quick demise in the attendance of our audiences.

Lets stay as we are. A selection of 'crackers' and plenty of 'cheese'.

:wink:

Boneman

23.01.2003, 13:19

I agree with Roger here, a good balance of music is required, and that should include some 'cheesy' stuff.

One point that seems to come out in the thread isn't so much not liking the cheesy music but that we seem to play it over and over again - i.e. Playing Swinging Safari at every concert for years!

As long as the repertoire is changing then we should have no problems playing cheese - I guess the problem for the guys from B&R is that they are expected to play the Floral Dance at every concert - the piece itself is a good piece!

Don't forget, even the finest cheese goes moldy after a while!
Simon.

Roger Thorne

23.01.2003, 14:30

Boneman wrote:

Don't forget, even the finest cheese goes moldy after a while!

Nice one Simon!

:wink:

midwalesman

23.01.2003, 15:46

True, that concert was well balanced and the music chosen wisely and yes it does become tiring when ur expected to play a piece at every concert and yes old cheese gets moldy!!

As for the programme itself, the Lohengrin was a transcription if I'm right was at least 40 years old and the others ( except the Elvis ) are much the same. The Floral Dance, Derek Broadbent's Floral dance is 26 years old and the tune itself has existed in the folk music scene a lot longer.

I don't mind playing cheese, audiences on the whole like cheese, as much as I would like to vary a programme more with serious music cheese wins everytime.

Just looking back at transcriptions, those were the test pieces of the 1800's and early 1900's and we still play them now. Vinter wrote pieces for contests, i.e Spectrum, but how often do bands play his pieces ? Let alone pieces which have a universal musical language such as Phillip Sparke.

When I suggested a programme of original music I did not mean 4 contest pieces...2 would be stretching it. What I meant was music by say Peter Graham that are actually written for the brass band and not ripped off from films or the musical mainstream.

I appreciate that people come to band concerts to be entertained but do the players ever get entertained ? And if the players don't get entertained or kept interested, does it not show in the music itself ?

NottinghamFlorist

06.02.2003, 18:37

Talking of cheese. Just been listening to a CD with Grimethorpe playing McArthur Park. One of the most cheesey songs ever composed with the cheesiest lyrics ever penned and given the Brass Band cheese treatment. Sheer class. Especially the Big band, Pearl & Dean bit in the middle and the heroic sop bit at the end. Who needs the traditional stuff when there is this extra ripe gorgonzola.

Keppler

06.02.2003, 18:56

Talking of cheese. Just been listening to a CD with Grimethorpe playing McArthur Park.

That arrangement is a work of art.. :D

rutty

07.02.2003, 07:22

Talking of cheese. Just been listening to a CD with Grimethorpe playing McArthur Park.

That arrangement is a work of art.. :D
...and hard on the lips :cry:

Mrs Fruity

08.02.2003, 00:50

McArthur Park is not cheeeeeese - just whey - we're still playing it. It beats I dreamed a dream anytime!

BoozyBTrom

26.02.2003, 20:47

Ahhh Macarthur Park one of Alan Catherals best arrangements.

i will tell him you love it.

now if you want cheese try playing " The Push Bike Song" or "Stop The Cavalry" at christmas of cousrse.

Or why not go whole hog and play an entire concert of Frank Bearnards Arrangements.

Cheese Fest Alert

James McFadyen

16.03.2003, 18:52

I'm with Sparkling_Quavers!!! Everyone loves a ****** good tune and a cheesey catchy tune is always a winner and more importantly it sells..........And I might arrange 'It's Raining Men', I might just :lol:

If any of u guys wanna try some original cheese, a couple of my compositions you might like are "Distant Skies" for experienced brass bands, it's quite a rocker but some really cool cheesey lines! and 'A Place Where Dreams Come True" is a warm-hearted look at the Brass Band sound!!!

I've done an arrangement of Oh, pretty Woman which goes into a swing section half way through and it's not the stupid plodding brass band swing, it's real swing!!!!!

Anyhow, music which is cheesy and commercial will never be appreciated by the Academics (belive me!) But if your a working composer, it's the ONLY way to earn decent money right away from Composition/Arranging!!!!!

Keppler

16.03.2003, 19:00

sorry James... The "publish music quick instituion" of frank bernaerts has beat you to "it's raining men"
Tricky xylophone part!

James McFadyen

16.03.2003, 19:01

Oh well, theres plenty more cheese out there!

James McFadyen

17.03.2003, 01:58

I would appreciate any suggestions for tunes to arrange, something that you would love to buy and play and maybe I can get penning it!!!

Lyndsay

17.03.2003, 12:39

Why can we only enjoy one or the other?

Roger Thorne

17.03.2003, 13:15

I would appreciate any suggestions for tunes to arrange, something that you would love to buy and play and maybe I can get penning it!!!
James,

Take a look at the following topic . . .

http://www.themouthpiece.com/viewtopic.php?t=224

:wink:

flashbarry

17.03.2003, 13:18

Nice one Roger!!

geordiecolin

17.03.2003, 15:05

Well I have never met a bass player who is 'funky'! :shock:

Surely i am the incarnation of all that is funky!!

My best/worst (depends on your point of view) cheese:

1. Hootenanny (BURN IT!! BURN IT!!)
2. Instant Concert
3. Those Magnificent Men
4. The Teddy Bear's Picnic
5. Crazy Music in the (f******) Air :x :x
6. Little Lisa (break out the coconut shells!!)
7. The Rovers Return (i once played this live on noel's house party!!)
8. Barnard Castle

My best/worst cheesy test pieces:

1. Dimensions
2. Gregson's Partita
3. Mexican Fiesta

My fave not very often played piece:

1. Appalachian Mountain Folk Song Suite

sparkling_quavers

17.03.2003, 15:13

Surely i am the incarnation of all that is funky!!
No comment colin!

My best/worst (depends on your point of view) cheese:

1. Hootenanny (BURN IT!! BURN IT!!)
2. Instant Concert
3. Those Magnificent Men
4. The Teddy Bear's Picnic
5. Crazy Music in the (f******) Air :x :x
6. Little Lisa (break out the coconut shells!!)
7. The Rovers Return (i once played this live on noel's house party!!)
8. Barnard Castle

burn hootenanny but not instant concert? they are both as bad as each other!

My fave not very often played piece:

1. Appalachian Mountain Folk Song Suite
I love that too....does anyone's band play in I was gonna suggest we got it out! :D

Raspberry

17.03.2003, 16:05

I haven't seen Appalachian Folk Song for years, I heard it for first time after many years about a month ago and thought thats a nice piece of music.

Does anyone remember Neighbours theme tune arranged for brass bands or theme from the Lion King "Can You feel the love tonight". When I think of it now......... :roll:

You wanna blow my what?

17.03.2003, 20:16

And I was about to comment on a nice slice of cheddar....

I hate playing cheese cos the horns always get such stupidly boring parts.

geordiecolin

17.03.2003, 20:54

Surely i am the incarnation of all that is funky!!

No comment colin!

I am the king of funkyness and you know it. Bow down at my extremely funky feet!!

My best/worst (depends on your point of view) cheese:

1. Hootenanny (BURN IT!! BURN IT!!)
2. Instant Concert

burn hootenanny but not instant concert? they are both as bad as each other!

Ahh, but theres a fantastic little bass melody in instant concert!!

Mrs Fruity

17.03.2003, 22:20

And I was about to comment on a nice slice of cheddar....

I hate playing cheese cos the horns always get such stupidly boring parts.

Can I just say - rest -derde rest derde - did you recognise West Side Story??

Or - rest de rest de - The King and I?

Or - resttataresttata fall down exhausted - Death Or Glory on the march?
God Bless horn parts and all of their creative diversity!!

sparkling_quavers

17.03.2003, 23:39

Or - resttataresttata fall down exhausted - Death Or Glory on the march?

I remember playing the part on backrow cornet on a march once and nearly hyperventilating at the top of the hill!! advice = do not breath too much!!![/quote]

Keppler

18.03.2003, 10:40

No more marching stories till next year please - I'm all marched out..

I think that there's too many places to breathe in Death or Glory..
come on Rach, one third of the piece is spend resting! ;)

sparkling_quavers

18.03.2003, 11:45

I think that there's too many places to breathe in Death or Glory..
come on Rach, one third of the piece is spend resting! ;)

Yeah well it is fine if you are playing the melody just horrible if you are playing the backing parts....i really don't know how the basses do it! :shock:

Keppler

18.03.2003, 11:58

oh I agree with you..
it's easier to play "dedede dedede" instead of "restdede restdede"

one of the marches you don't play going uphill..

BigHorn

21.04.2003, 07:21

Whey Hey - just been playing Barry Manilows 'One Voice' - this must rank right up there in the cheese fest top 10.

Seems that popular opinion puts McArthur Park up at number one.
I think Blue's All Rise and Tom Jones' Sex Bomb must also get a place.
But what are your other top 10 nominations :?:

More Cheese Pleeeeese :lol:

James McFadyen

21.04.2003, 11:01

I have been spending last week arranging MacArthur Park (for Brass Band) I think this will be the fourth arrangement of this tune, I just hope that I will be able to clear copyright!!!!!

I've tried to make mine a little differant from the rest, and it even goes into swing, which nobody has done before with that tune for Brass Band!!

MoominDave

21.04.2003, 18:44

<BOC HAT>

Watch out - you can get sued for arranging before asking...

</BOC HAT>

Dave

manx_yessir

22.04.2003, 22:30

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My best/worst (depends on your point of view) cheese:

1. Hootenanny (BURN IT!! BURN IT!!)
2. Instant Concert

burn hootenanny but not instant concert? they are both as bad as each other!

I remember every summer Instant Concert & Hootenanny out :roll:
Everytime we played them our conductor used to ask the audience to guess how many different tunes were in them. Every week he'd give a different answer! :roll:
Also, it seemed that these pieces were only ever played at the same dynamic and speed: LOUD and FAST! :wink:

jonford

24.04.2003, 00:18

I remember Instant Concert! and a prize if someone guessed how many tunes were in it. No one ever did and i dont think our conductor knew either.

I dont kno wether Ive spelt this right but has anyone played Florie ford's favourites! that has got to be the cheesiest thing ive ever played! i think its a medley, but it was definatly before my time!

groovy

24.04.2003, 22:12

When our conducter did the guess how many tunes thingy for IC the band would decide on what it was, then all put our hand up when he said it! Cos he would read a list of numbers and the audience would put up their hand at whatever number they thought it was. :D That made no sense!

picju96

25.04.2003, 16:13

We played some real cheese last night, I would go and get my pad to see what it was but its in the car and it's raining. I'll update later!

Keppler

25.04.2003, 16:19

oh god.. the suspense....
please hurry J.. I don't know if I can take this..

picju96

25.04.2003, 16:51

Update: The pieces that I forgot were 'Can't take my eyes off you', 'Cartoon Classics', and 'Cabaret'. The first one the solo horn and me were in stitches all the way through because its so cheesy! Its the one off that advert for the car 'Don't you want me baby yeahyeahyeahyeahhhhhhhhh' etc...

Sorry about the long wait Keppler, the rain just kept coming!! :lol:

HBB

25.04.2003, 17:18

ARE you working throught the "C" section of your pad by any chance! lol

We've got Purcell Variations tonight! :D Lovely horn solo!

picju96

26.04.2003, 15:04

Lol I didn't realise that! No, they're all new pieces.

HunkySteve

26.04.2003, 18:15

I think that the Barry Manilow "one voice" is dead cheesy, its short and sweet and Im a sucker for "the big finish" (ooo-matron).

HS :shock:

catchynamegoeshere

03.09.2004, 22:18

Cheesy stuff rules...but not all the time.
dave

TIMBONE

04.09.2004, 00:43

When a band sets out to entertain an audience, (with a lot of emphasis on the word ENTERTAIN), they are going to be (most of the time) playing for 'Joe Public'. The concert programme is for the audience, not for ourselves, so it has to be well seasoned with 'nostalgia' and 'familiarity'. So if there is no 'cheese', then the 'wine' doesn't taste as good.

I write cheese, why not, (I also have 'wine' of varying degrees).

kate_the_horn

04.09.2004, 18:43

Has anyone played Cliff????

ARGGH! ?(ive started to like it)

We've got the Bernarts verison of grease as well, (flugal players fault!)

kell x

ju33les

05.09.2004, 12:03

I write cheese, why not, (I also have 'wine' of varying degrees).

Call me uncultured if you want....but I sat through a lot of 'wine' yesterday at the Bridgewater Hall Brass festival, and was desperate for a snack of cheese!

jpbray

08.09.2004, 16:52

Is cheese the staple diet of concerts? :p :p :p

aimee_euph

08.09.2004, 17:01

i love flashdance....but rest of my band dont. :rolleyes:

Welsheuphoniummanjamie

08.09.2008, 14:11

i love flashdance....but rest of my band dont. :rolleyes:

one voice and flashdance, they are both quality! lol, defiantly a Stilton cheese that!

TubaGeek

08.09.2008, 16:11

Nothing wrong with a bit of cheesy music now and again - Can't beat a little "9 til 5", monotonous as it is...

brassbandmaestro

08.09.2008, 18:30

Is it that Frank Bryce arrangement of Superman? Where there is a tempo marking, 'tempo di disco'!!! (LMAO!!!)

WhatSharp?

09.09.2008, 09:32

help! I can't answer the poll. I hate cheese and the traditional stuff can be dire too!... argh!

lynchie

09.09.2008, 13:47

help! I can't answer the poll. I hate cheese and the traditional stuff can be dire too!... argh!

Excellent point. Are those really the only two options? A large slab of gorgonzola or a yellow transcription of 150 year old overture? Pretty sad state of affairs. However, I could swear I've noticed some contemporary composers writing some excellent original music that goes down very well with a discerning audience.

I'm also a massive Frank Bernaerts basher in my spare time.