View Full Version : What Cornet to buy
Briggsy IOM
01.05.2003, 12:59
I thinking of buying a new cornet anyone any comments on the best one to buy ?
I'm currently using a Courtois, but have had Sovereigns in the past
I think that Yamaha's r the way to go-silver one.. Didn't think too much bout the Courtois' when had them at Marple n at Sellers am on Besson Sovereign's n I don't think that they compare with Yamaha's.. :)
theres also the prestige which iv heard mixed reports about..
and the new courtois (prestige lookalike) will be out soon, but iv not herad excellent reports bout that either ;)
super_sop
01.05.2003, 14:54
I think that Yamaha's r the way to go-silver one.. Didn't think too much bout the Courtois' when had them at Marple n at Sellers am on Besson Sovereign's n I don't think that they compare with Yamaha's.. :)
got to agree with ya there, wouldnt give mine up for the world :lol:
yam sops are bit better than yam cornets arent they ;) ;) :P
super_sop
01.05.2003, 15:14
yam sops are bit better than yam cornets arent they ;) ;) :P
ohps sorry dude mines a Bb.
Dont play sop no more :cry:
*retracts previous post* :oops:
:lol:
spookybiking
01.05.2003, 16:03
best thing to do is try them all, take a piece of reasonable music and try them. then you will know which is best for you.
sudcornet
01.05.2003, 16:19
Spooky's right...if you can find somewhere to try them all.
Can't fault the Prestige for blowing, but given the choice, I would go for the Silver Plate...lasts better and the quality of the laquer isn't the best.
Sud
Straightmute
01.05.2003, 16:25
Don't part with your dosh till you've tried the Smith Watkins. Good is not the word. Cheap is not the word either.
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impycornet
01.05.2003, 18:54
Smith watkins every time for me.
www.smithwatkins.com
Had mine for 3 years or so now & can't fault it.
The Maestro is a good 2nd choice But they are a bit light & doesn't take long to blow them out.
I've never played a Prestige so can't really comment but.... If they are that good then why do they need a trigger on the main tuning slide ?? :shock:
I personally recommend the latest Conn, it has a 12.5 inch bell, and in stead of valves has a slide and is about an octive lower in pitch - definately the way forward! :wink:
davidquinlan
01.05.2003, 23:40
Just do some practice Briggsey!!! A bad workman blames his tools... or tool in your case :)
You MCB boys coming over to Blackpool to hear an OMCB lad split some notes in the very fine indeed shield (or Grand shield, as they say?)...
You know you want to...
You know it makes sense....
Our band recently had a new set of cornets and we tried out the Maestro, Prestige and the Strad (they also used my nearly new Sov). Even though the Sov was mine I put it in fourth slot, the Maestro in third, Prestige second and the strad first. I really like the throw ring on the Strad, I had a really old one a few years ago and it was great.......I can you hear you all now...what about the laquer, in my eyes the sound made up for it!! Anyway the democratic and economically wise cornet section chose the Maestro. I have now played a silver one for a few months on a 16E (which I have used for ages) and have been really suprised by its quality and versatility. I am a definate advocate of the maestro...the only gripe I have is that the second valve collects a heck of a lot of water.
I would say now have a Maestro.......anyone want to buy a Sovereign....little used and in great condition?!
Valvecap
02.05.2003, 12:17
You can do a lot worse than looking at a pre lottery sovereign - valves are much better than the current ones, build quality is also much better - they seem to be more in tune with themselves as well. depends if you want new - i got one, had it plated in silver gold and black (prestige look a like) and it was still a lot cheaper than buying a new one.
Yammys are a bit brash for my liking but each to there own... Not tried the prestige yet - heard mixed reports.
I agree with Straightmute, I've had a Smith Watkins since August last year and (after playing Sov's for years) think it is a cut above anything else currently on the market. 4bars rest did a review and it scored higher than the Prestige. The good thing is that Richard Smith will come to see you and you can try the 27 combinations of leadpipe and bore and get the one thats best for you. He has started to do flugels as well (my wife plays one) and they are also excellent.
davidquinlan
06.05.2003, 11:56
I tried out various configurations of SmithWatkins trumpets prior to buying a new trumpet about 18 months ago (Didn't buy a smith watkins, couldn't justify the cost for the amount of usage !!), however, I was very impressed with them.
Unfortunatly, that day I didn't have a cornet mouthpiece with me so couldn't test the Cornets or Sopranos that was also on display.
I could be completely wrong here, I seem to remember Richard Smith telling me that he was the chief designer of the old Soverigen 928 when he worked for Besson. His current cornet models are evolutions or next generation versions of it (I think...)
Also, Dr Smith is based about 5mins away from me here, so I could, if I wanted make another appointment to test any instrument!! 4 Valve soprano cornet.. hmmmm
Our Sop player tried one but didn't think that the fourth valve gave him any benefits. He has an SW three valve and thinks it is great (he used to play a Schilke)
imthemaddude
08.05.2003, 23:50
I had a soverign but think the change to a yamaha was the best thing I ever did. :)
Singapore Northern Lass
09.05.2003, 07:30
I had a soverign but think the change to a yamaha was the best thing I ever did. :)
:shock: :shock: :shock: It must have been one of the newer Sovreigns then!!!!! :shock: :shock: :shock:
maestO_SO_musical
21.10.2007, 14:17
I tried out various configurations of SmithWatkins trumpets prior to buying a new trumpet about 18 months ago (Didn't buy a smith watkins, couldn't justify the cost for the amount of usage !!), however, I was very impressed with them.
Unfortunatly, that day I didn't have a cornet mouthpiece with me so couldn't test the Cornets or Sopranos that was also on display.
I could be completely wrong here, I seem to remember Richard Smith telling me that he was the chief designer of the old Soverigen 928 when he worked for Besson. His current cornet models are evolutions or next generation versions of it (I think...)
Also, Dr Smith is based about 5mins away from me here, so I could, if I wanted make another appointment to test any instrument!! 4 Valve soprano cornet.. hmmmm
Yes, Dr. Smith did design the 928, but now he lives in Yorkshie
I have started a thread on SmithWatkins - I don't feel that they get enough recognition
Why not take a look?
brassneck
21.10.2007, 14:46
I wonder if any banders have bought these Taylor cornets? Certainly eye-catching!
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b134/kingseamus/ZeusCornet.jpg The Orpheus Model
http://www.taylortrumpets.com/cornet.html
brassneck
21.10.2007, 14:57
Another alternative make of cornet to consider is Kanstul ... don't ask me about import costs from the USA though!
http://www.kanstulmusic.com/signatureinstruments.htm
Super Ph
21.10.2007, 16:31
Kanstul instruments are rebadged and sold over here as something else by Fred Rhodes, I believe. I had a go on one of their soprano cornets and it was extremely good, don't think it has made it over here yet though.
WoodenFlugel
21.10.2007, 20:32
Another alternative make of cornet to consider is Kanstul ... don't ask me about import costs from the USA though!
http://www.kanstulmusic.com/signatureinstruments.htm
If you ask nicely you'd probably get one from Parker's who are their importer! ;)
brassneck
21.10.2007, 20:49
If you ask nicely you'd probably get one from Parker's who are their importer! ;)
- I notice that they only sell Kanstul trumpets & a flugel that surprisingly looks identical to your one ;) . Their cornets are supposedly really high quality though (according to a tMPer whose section is kitted out with them).
WoodenFlugel
21.10.2007, 20:52
You may be right, but I guess if you wanted one bad enough then they would get one over for you.
brassneck
21.10.2007, 20:53
You may be right, but I guess if you wanted one bad enough then they would get one over for you.
- only if I played cornet :cool:
Anyone playing on an Eclipse Cornet? I'd be interested to hear from any band currently using them...especially the red-brass-bell model.
Andy
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