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Paddy Flower
09.10.2009, 19:37
Championship Section
Flowers - 6/5 fav
Camborne Town - 11/2
Mount Charles - 8/1
Woodfalls - 9/1
Lydbrook - 16/1
Poole Borough - 28/1
Helston Town - 40/1
Sherborne Town - 40/1
St. Dennis - 66/1
Yeovil Town - 66/1
St. Keverne - 150/1

Paddy Flower
09.10.2009, 19:38
First Section
St. Austell Town - 7/2 fav
Aldbourne - 15/2
Camborne 'B' - 8/1
Bournemouth Concert Brass - 9/1
Portishead Town - 11/1
Otterbourne Brass - 16/1
Lympstone South West Telecoms - 20/1
Lanner & District Silver - 20/1
Hyde - 20/1
Verwood Concert Brass - 20/1
Michelmersh Silver - 22/1
Chalford - 25/1
Woodfalls Concert Brass - 66/1
Ocean Brass - 66/1
Soundhouse Brass (Plymouth) - 100/1

Paddy Flower
09.10.2009, 19:40
Second Section
Brunel Brass - 3/1 fav (National 3rd Section Champs)
Shrewton Silver - 8/1
City Of Bristol - 11/1
Heyl Town - 12/1
Filton Concert Brass - 14/1
Swindon Pegasus Brass - 16/1
Phoenix Brass (Crewkerne) - 16/1
Cinderford - 20/1
Bristol East & Kingswood - 20/1
Bodmin Town - 20/1
Pendennis Brass (Falmouth) - 20/1
Forest of Dean Brass - 40/1
Wotton & District Silver - 40/1
St. Pinnock - 50/1
Gillingham Imperial Silver - 66/1
Solent Concert - 100/1

Paddy Flower
09.10.2009, 19:41
Third Section
St. Breward Silver - 100/30 fav (National 4th Section Champs)
Bugle Silver - 5/1
Denmead Brass - 13/2
Bath Spa - 12/1
St. Stythians - 14/1
Pillowell Silver - 16/1
Weston-super-Mare Brass - 16/1
Weymouth Concert Brass - 28/1
Bream Silver - 28/1
Corsham - 33/1
Sidmouth Town - 33/1
Tewkesbury Town - 40/1
South Molton Town - 40/1
Wincanton Silver - 40/1
Torbay Brass - 66/1

Paddy Flower
09.10.2009, 19:43
Fourth Section
Totnes - 13/2 fav
Chalford Academy Brass - 10/1
Downton - 11/1
Test Valley Brass - 12/1
Bratton Silver - 14/1
A W Parker (Drybrook) - 16/1
Swindon Brass - 16/1
Wilton & District Youth - 18/1
Spinnaker Brass - 20/1
Shanklin Town Brass (IoW) - 20/1
Launceston Town - 22/1
New Forest Brass - 22/1
Hatherleigh Silver - 28/1
Marshfield - 28/1
Porthleven Town - 40/1
Cheltenham Silver - 50/1
Bideford Town - 50/1
Torrington Silver - 50/1
Okehampton Excelsior - 66/1
Gosport Silver - 66/1
Lostwithiel Town - 150/1

snazzy_cornet_sound
20.10.2009, 16:32
Im putting my money on Camborne... Funny that :p

Paddy Flower
20.10.2009, 16:44
Im putting my money on Camborne... Funny that :p

Ya missed the boat there, they've just shortened...

Paddy Flower
20.10.2009, 16:45
The west's 2 representatives came home from the big smoke well pleased with their efforts and it's had the effect of lengthening everyone else considerably...

Championship Section
Flowers - 11/10 fav (from 6/5)
Camborne Town - 3/1 (11/2)
Mount Charles - 12/1 (8/1)
Woodfalls - 14/1 (9/1)
Lydbrook - 25/1 (16/1)
Poole Borough - 40/1 (28/1)
Helston Town - 50/1 (40/1)
Sherborne Town - 66/1 (40/1)
St. Dennis - 100/1 (66/1)
Yeovil Town - 100/1 (66/1)
St. Keverne - 250/1 (150/1)

cockaigne
21.10.2009, 11:41
Keep your eye on Forest of Dean in Section 2 - had some good results and remarks lately...

Sop_Or_Bass?
21.10.2009, 21:57
Which section is in the Arena next year? May affect the odds

Getzonica
23.10.2009, 13:34
Which section is in the Arena next year? May affect the odds

I think it's the same as 2008. It said in this years programme (i think)

Rebel Tuba
24.10.2009, 16:23
Paddy, new horse in the block in the WoE.

Formed Sept 2009, based in central Devon and now graded 1st Section, what odds on new boys STORM Brass???

Paddy Flower
24.10.2009, 18:19
Paddy, new horse in the block in the WoE.

Formed Sept 2009, based in central Devon and now graded 1st Section, what odds on new boys STORM Brass???

Are you doing a contest before next March, would be hard to give you a price with no form to go on. Simon Dobson conducting??

Graded 1st section usually means that you're Champ standard but I know they're not allowed to put new bands straight in there so I can only assume you'll be in with a shout.

Good Luck with the new venture, when was the last time Devon had a Champ Section band?

Rebel Tuba
25.10.2009, 02:56
Are you doing a contest before next March, would be hard to give you a price with no form to go on. Simon Dobson conducting??

Graded 1st section usually means that you're Champ standard but I know they're not allowed to put new bands straight in there so I can only assume you'll be in with a shout.

Good Luck with the new venture, when was the last time Devon had a Champ Section band?

Our first public outing will be the Wessex Contest in November (Simon is otherwise occupied that day, but the band will be in very capable hands)

Simon will be taking the band at the areas next year, he is a major part of this new set-up, and hopefully will grow old and grey around STORM Brass over the coming years.

As far as I know Devon has NEVER had a Championship standard band, so that is our 3 year plan to achieve

Paddy Flower
31.10.2009, 13:21
A little market movement here...

Championship Section
Flowers - Evens fav (from 11/10)
Camborne Town - 3/1
Mount Charles - 11/1 (12/1)
Lydbrook - 22/1 (25/1)
Woodfalls - 28/1 (14/1)
Poole Borough - 40/1
Helston Town - 50/1
Sherborne Town - 50/1 (66/1)
St. Dennis - 100/1
Yeovil Town - 100/1
St. Keverne - 200/1 (250/1)

Pontins (Woodfalls)

Paddy Flower
31.10.2009, 13:33
In the First Section, Chalford played at Pontins but their result has not changed their odds.

Second Section
Forest of Dean Brass - 33/1 (from 40/1)
Solent Concert - 150/1 (100/1)

Oxford & District Ents (Forest of Dean)SCABA Folkestone (Solent)

Fourth Section
Shanklin Town Brass (IoW) - 28/1 (from 20/1)

SCABA Folkestone (Shanklin)

All other prices are as per previous post

flugman
26.11.2009, 14:57
Verwood just came second at Leamington Spa beating Strata (3rd) currently 140 in the World Rankings, does that improve our odds?

sugarandspice
26.11.2009, 16:14
Our first public outing will be the Wessex Contest in November (Simon is otherwise occupied that day, but the band will be in very capable hands)



...........didn't you with draw from that?

Paddy Flower
26.11.2009, 21:08
Verwood just came second at Leamington Spa beating Strata (3rd) currently 140 in the World Rankings, does that improve our odds?

I'm going to leave a full update until after this weekend's round of contests (which includes the Wessex Assoc Champs). It was a decent result, yes, but you won't shorten that much because I base form on my own ratings NOT 4br. It might suprise you to know that I have you and Strata much closer in form than 4br do, so it wasn't a suprise to me

flugman
27.11.2009, 15:45
Thanks Paddy that's good to know!

Paddy Flower
01.12.2009, 19:13
Championship Section
Flowers - 15/8 fav (from Evens)
Camborne Town - 9/4 (3/1)
Mount Charles - 9/1 (11/1)
Lydbrook - 16/1 (22/1)
Woodfalls - 18/1 (28/1)
Poole Borough - 28/1 (40/1)
Helston Town - 33/1 (50/1)
Sherborne Town - 40/1 (50/1)
St. Dennis - 50/1 (100/1)
Yeovil Town - 100/1
St. Keverne - 150/1 (200/1)

7/11 SWBBA Torquay (St. Dennis & Yeovil)
15/11 Brass in Concert (Flowers)
22/11 Gloucester BBA (Lydbrook & Yeovil)
28/11 Wessex BBA (Woodfalls)

Paddy Flower
01.12.2009, 19:14
First Section
St. Austell Town - 7/2 fav
Aldbourne - 15/2
Camborne 'B' - 8/1
Bournemouth Concert Brass - 9/1
Portishead Town - 11/1
Michelmersh Silver - 14/1 (from 22/1)
Otterbourne Brass - 16/1
Chalford - 16/1 (25/1)
Verwood Concert Brass - 28/1 (20/1) Flugman - Wessex result not so good
Lympstone South West Telecoms - 28/1 (20/1)
Ocean Brass - 33/1 (66/1)
Lanner & District Silver - 33/1 (20/1)
Hyde - 40/1 (20/1)
Woodfalls Concert Brass - 66/1
Soundhouse Brass (Plymouth) - 100/1

7/11 SWBBA Torquay (Chalford, Michelmersh, Lympstone & Lanner)
22/11 West Mids BBA - Leamington Spa (Verwood)
28/11 Wessex BBA (Michelmersh, Ocean, Otterbourne, Verwood & Hyde)

Paddy Flower
01.12.2009, 19:15
Second Section
Brunel Brass - 11/2 fav (from 3/1)
Shrewton Silver - 15/2 (8/1)
City Of Bristol - 15/2 (11/1)
Heyl Town - 12/1
Swindon Pegasus Brass - 12/1 (16/1)
Filton Concert Brass - 12/1 (14/1)
Phoenix Brass (Crewkerne) - 14/1 (16/1)
Bristol East & Kingswood - 18/1 (20/1)
Bodmin Town - 18/1 (20/1)
Pendennis Brass (Falmouth) - 22/1 (20/1)
Cinderford - 22/1 (20/1)
Forest of Dean Brass - 28/1 (33/1)
St. Pinnock - 40/1 (50/1)
Gillingham Imperial Silver - 40/1 (66/1)
Wotton & District Silver - 50/1 (40/1)
Solent Concert - 150/1

7/11 SWBBA Torquay (Pegasus, City of Bristol, Phoenix, Heyl, St. Pinnock & Pendennis)
22/11 Gloucester BBA (City of Bristol, Wotton)
22/11 West Mids BBA - Leamington Spa (Cinderford)
28/11 Wessex BBA (Shrewton, Brunel, Pheonix & Gillingham)

Paddy Flower
01.12.2009, 19:16
Third Section
St. Breward Silver - 100/30 fav
Bugle Silver - 5/1
Bath Spa - 8/1 (from 12/1)
Denmead Brass - 10/1 (13/2)
Weston-super-Mare Brass - 11/1 (16/1)
Pillowell Silver - 18/1 (16/1)
Sidmouth Town - 20/1 (33/1)
St. Stythians - 22/1 (14/1)
Bream Silver - 28/1
Weymouth Concert Brass - 33/1 (28/1)
Corsham - 40/1 (33/1)
Tewkesbury Town - 40/1
South Molton Town - 40/1
Wincanton Silver - 40/1
Torbay Brass - 66/1

7/11 SWBBA Torquay (Weston, Sidmouth, Pillowell, St. Stythians & Weymouth)
22/11 West Mids BBA - Leamington Spa (Bream)
28/11 Wessex BBA (Bath Spa, Denmead, Weymouth & Corsham)
29/11 Leicester BBA (Weston)

Paddy Flower
01.12.2009, 19:17
Fourth Section
Test Valley Brass - 10/1 jt fav (from 12/1)
Chalford Academy Brass - 10/1 jf fav
Downton - 12/1 (11/1)
Bratton Silver - 14/1
A W Parker (Drybrook) - 14/1 (16/1)
Totnes - 14/1 (13/2 fav)
Hatherleigh Silver - 16/1 (28/1)
Swindon Brass - 16/1
Wilton & District Youth - 18/1
Spinnaker Brass - 18/1 (20/1)
New Forest Brass - 20/1 (22/1)
Launceston Town - 22/1
Shanklin Town Brass (IoW) - 25/1 (28/1)
Marshfield - 25/1 (28/1)
Cheltenham Silver - 40/1
Bideford Town - 40/1 (50/1)
Torrington Silver - 40/1 (50/1)
Porthleven Town - 50/1 (40/1)
Okehampton Excelsior - 50/1 (66/1)
Gosport Silver - 66/1
Lostwithiel Town - 100/1 (150/1)

7/11 SWBBA Torquay (Launceston, Hatherleigh, Okehampton, Totnes & Porthleven)
22/11 Gloucester BBA (Drybrook)
28/11 Wessex BBA (Test Valley, New Forest, Swindon & Gosport)

Anyone's guess this one!!!

flugman
03.12.2009, 14:20
Fair play Paddy, we did have a "bad day at the office". Still takes the pressure off for the regionals as nobody will expect too much! Except ourselves that is!

Paddy Flower
03.12.2009, 18:35
Fair play Paddy, we did have a "bad day at the office". Still takes the pressure off for the regionals as nobody will expect too much! Except ourselves that is!

If the bad result came BEFORE the good one then your odds would probably have been the same as before, I guess you're only as good as your last outing.

For me there's no stand-out favorite at Torquay so one could spring from the pack, Verwood? Why not...

Getzonica
03.12.2009, 18:44
I guess you're only as good as your last outing.

Not necessarily, you could be really good but just have had a really bad day...

Paddy Flower
03.12.2009, 19:02
Not necessarily, you could be really good but just have had a really bad day...

or have a really bad adjudicator...;)

Chris Hicks
04.12.2009, 01:03
With out sounding disrespectful, how does winning the GBBA contest make you more likely to win the areas!?

Paddy Flower
04.12.2009, 12:27
With out sounding disrespectful, how does winning the GBBA contest make you more likely to win the areas!?

If you mean Lydbrook in Champ Section then you'll notice that most of the field has been shortened due to Flowers' poor result at Brass in Concert. Even money out to 15/8 is the same as saying their chances have gone from 50% to about 35% which obviously boosted everyone else (your Dad may disagree of course :tongue:).

Or do you mean City of Bristol? They won at GBBA but also won at SWBBA Torquay. Coupled with a mediocre result from Brunel at the Wessex BBA gives good reason to shorten them.

To address the point about sounding disrespectful to the GBBA, I view contests in TWO catagories and adjust ratings accordingly. The two catagories are based on how seriously (i believe) bands approach a contest. The higher catagory would be anything to do with the Nationals (Areas & Finals) and also anything to do with The British Open (Spring Festival etc..), as well as Europeans and English National. The lower catagory would be anything else, although I don't put a huge difference on the two, bands afterall would prefer to win no matter what they're entering.

Of course you cannot forget the old adage 'You can only beat what's put in front of you' i think that's how it goes anyway

Chris Hicks
04.12.2009, 18:20
I was referring to the top section yes, just with there only being two bands in the field, but i see where it would have come from though with flowers' result at BIC (which i would possibly argue isn't neccesarily poor when you consider the outfits there, but thats another topic ;))

Thanks for the explanation though

Paddy Flower
28.01.2010, 17:50
Championship Section
Camborne Town - 11/5 jt fav (from 9/4)
Flowers - 11/5 jt fav (15/8 )
Mount Charles - 15/2 (9/1)
Lydbrook - 14/1 (16/1)
Woodfalls - 20/1 (18/1)
Poole Borough - 25/1 (28/1)
Helston Town - 33/1
Sherborne Town - 33/1 (40/1)
St. Dennis - 40/1 (50/1)
Yeovil Town - 66/1 (100/1)
St. Keverne - 150/1
Butlins (Flowers & Woodfalls)

The Fancys - 1/3
From the Pack - 4/1
An Outsider - 20/1

Paddy Flower
28.01.2010, 17:52
Third Section
St. Breward Silver - 100/30 fav
Bugle Silver - 5/1
Bath Spa - 8/1
Denmead Brass - 10/1
Weston-super-Mare Brass - 11/1
Pillowell Silver - 18/1
Sidmouth Town - 20/1
St. Stythians - 22/1
Bream Silver - 28/1
Weymouth Concert Brass - 33/1
Corsham - 40/1
Tewkesbury Town - 40/1
South Molton Town - 40/1
Wincanton Silver - 40/1
Torbay Brass - 66/1



Butlins (Tewkesbury)

Their result hasn't changed any prices

The Fancys - 1/3
From the Pack - 4/1
An Outsider - 20/1

Mesmerist
29.01.2010, 13:44
I`ve just been sent the official lists for the 4th and 1st sections and I see that Soundhouse and Gosport are not doing the Areas this year? 14 in the 1st and only 20 this year in the 4th.

Euph1175
31.01.2010, 22:55
Competing bands list for the West of England now out:)

http://www.webba.org.uk/regionals_2010_12.html

Paddy Flower
01.02.2010, 12:21
Competing bands list for the West of England now out:)

http://www.webba.org.uk/regionals_2010_12.html

thanks for that...

Championship Section
Camborne Town - 11/5 jt fav
Flowers - 11/5 jt fav
Mount Charles - 15/2
Lydbrook - 14/1
Woodfalls - 18/1 (from 20/1)
Poole Borough - 25/1
Helston Town - 33/1
Sherborne Town - 33/1
St. Dennis - 40/1
Yeovil Town - 66/1
St. Keverne - UN-ENTERED (150/1)

The Fancys - 1/3
From the Pack - 4/1
An Outsider - 25/1

Paddy Flower
01.02.2010, 12:24
First Section
St. Austell Town - 7/2 fav
Aldbourne - 7/1 (from 15/2)
Camborne 'B' - 8/1
Bournemouth Concert Brass - 8/1 (9/1)
Portishead Town - 11/1
Michelmersh Silver - 12/1 (14/1)
Otterbourne Brass - 16/1
Chalford - 16/1
Verwood Concert Brass - 25/1 (28/1)
Lympstone South West Telecoms - 28/1
Ocean Brass - 28/1 (33/1)
Lanner & District Silver - 33/1
Hyde - 40/1
Woodfalls Concert - UN-ENTERED (66/1)
Soundhouse Brass (Plymouth) - UN-ENTERED (100/1)
Storm Brass - No price (no form to go on)

The Fancys - 4/5
From the Pack - 11/8
An Outsider - 40/1 (just Hyde)

Paddy Flower
01.02.2010, 12:25
Second Section
Brunel Brass - 5/1 fav (from 11/2)
Shrewton Silver - 7/1 (15/2)
City Of Bristol - 7/1 (15/2)
Heyl Town - 11/1 (12/1)
Swindon Pegasus Brass - 11/1 (12/1)
Filton Concert Brass - 12/1
Phoenix Brass (Crewkerne) - 14/1
Bristol East & Kingswood - 16/1 (18/1)
Pendennis Brass (Falmouth) - 20/1 (22/1)
Cinderford - 22/1
Forest of Dean Brass - 25/1 (28/1)
St. Pinnock - 40/1
Gillingham Imperial Silver - 40/1
Wotton & District Silver - 40/1 (50/1)
Solent Concert - 100/1 (150/1)
Bodmin Town - UN-ENTERED (18/1)

The Fancys - 11/8
From the Pack - Evens
An Outsider - 11/1

Paddy Flower
01.02.2010, 12:26
Third Section
All bands entered


Fourth Section
Test Valley Brass - 9/1 jt fav (from 10/1)
Chalford Academy - 9/1 jt fav (10/1)
Downton - 11/1 (12/1)
Bratton Silver - 12/1 (14/1)
A W Parker (Drybrook) - 12/1 (14/1)
Totnes - 14/1
Hatherleigh Silver - 14/1 (16/1)
Swindon Brass - 16/1
Wilton & District - 16/1 (18/1)
Spinnaker Brass - 18/1
New Forest Brass - 18/1 (20/1)
Launceston Town - 20/1 (22/1)
Shanklin Town Brass (IoW) - 25/1
Marshfield - 25/1
Cheltenham Silver - 33/1 (40/1)
Porthleven Town - 40/1 (50/1)
Okehampton Excelsior - 50/1
Lostwithiel Town - 100/1
Bideford Town - UN-ENTERED (40/1)
Torrington Silver - UN-ENTERED (40/1)
Gosport Silver - UN-ENTERED (66/1)
Verwood 'B' & Wight Brass - No price (no form to go on)

The Fancys - 4/1
From the Pack - 1/3
An Outsider - 18/1

Paddy Flower
09.02.2010, 18:53
Championship Section
Flowers - 15/8 fav (from 11/5)
Camborne Town - 5/2 (11/5)
Mount Charles - 9/1 (15/2)

Woodfalls - 14/1 (18/1)
Lydbrook - 14/1
Poole Borough - 28/1 (25/1)
Helston Town - 33/1
Sherborne Town - 33/1

St. Dennis - 40/1
Yeovil Town - 66/1

6/2 Yeovil (Camborne, Mt Charles, Woodfalls, Poole & St. Dennis)

The Fancys - 4/11
From the Pack - 100/30
An Outsider - 25/1

Paddy Flower
11.02.2010, 15:40
Second Section
Brunel Brass - 5/1 fav
Shrewton Silver - 13/2 (from 7/1)
City Of Bristol - 15/2 (7/1)

Heyl Town - 11/1
Swindon Pegasus Brass - 11/1
Filton Concert Brass - 11/1 (12/1)
Phoenix Brass (Crewkerne) - 12/1 (14/1)
Bristol East & Kingswood - 16/1
Pendennis Brass (Falmouth) - 20/1
Cinderford - 20/1 (22/1)
Forest of Dean Brass - 25/1

St. Pinnock - 40/1
Gillingham Imperial Silver - 40/1
Wotton & District Silver - 40/1
Solent Concert - 150/1 (100/1)

7/2 Gloucester BBA (City of Bristol)

The Fancys - 6/4
From the Pack - Evens
An Outsider - 11/1

Paddy Flower
11.02.2010, 15:50
Fourth Section
Test Valley Brass - 8/1 fav (from 9/1)
Chalford Academy - 9/1
Downton - 10/1 (11/1)

Totnes - 12/1 (14/1)
Bratton Silver - 12/1
A W Parker (Drybrook) - 14/1 (12/1)
Hatherleigh Silver - 16/1
Swindon Brass - 16/1
Wilton & District - 16/1
Spinnaker Brass - 18/1
New Forest Brass - 20/1
Launceston Town - 22/1
Shanklin Town Brass (IoW) - 25/1
Marshfield - 25/1

Cheltenham Silver - 40/1
Porthleven Town - 50/1
Okehampton Excelsior - 50/1
Lostwithiel Town - 150/1

Verwood 'B' & Wight Brass - No price - no form to go on, can you help?

7/2 Gloucester BBA (Drybrook)

The Fancys - 9/4
From the Pack - 8/13
An Outsider - 14/1

Mesmerist
13.02.2010, 00:28
If rumours are true that StormBrass has pulled out of the Areas then I am right that this makes no difference to the odds?

Verwood B is a new Band and is made up from some experienced players (4th to 2nd section) and some complete novice adults who have recently started playing. Ratio is about 75/25 experienced/novice. Does that help Paddy? Conductor is young but has had a higher section band before.

Paddy Flower
13.02.2010, 11:22
If rumours are true that StormBrass has pulled out of the Areas then I am right that this makes no difference to the odds?

Verwood B is a new Band and is made up from some experienced players (4th to 2nd section) and some complete novice adults who have recently started playing. Ratio is about 75/25 experienced/novice. Does that help Paddy? Conductor is young but has had a higher section band before.

Storm Brass are a bit of mystery to me, they've pulled out of 2 contests (SWBBA Torquay & Weymouth) to my knowledge and now the area? I know The Rebel Tuba is always lurking, any comments Rebel?

Verwood 'B'. There's a number of experienced outfits in this section but as the senior band has been so succesful in the last couple of years I'm guessing a few former Verwood players may have come out of retirement?. I'll unofficially say 25/1 for now. Thanks for the info and best of luck to them on their debut

Mesmerist
18.02.2010, 14:11
Maybe the rumours about Storm are not true as they have made a couple of new signings now...?
Good luck to them anyway.

Paddy Flower
18.02.2010, 16:29
Maybe the rumours about Storm are not true as they have made a couple of new signings now...?
Good luck to them anyway.

Yeah i've just read the 4br article as well. It's difficult to offer a price without any contesting form to go on.

I've a similar situation with Catterick Brass @ the NOE area, 2nd section but (apparently) full of Army musos so word is they'll walk it.

Newly graded bands do tend to well in their section as regional committees are relunctant to just put them where they think they belong, I think they put them a section lower and make them earn the promotion, which is fair enough I suppose as it would (rightly) test the loyalty of the players in the new band.

Liz Courts
19.02.2010, 14:09
I've heard from a reliable source that rehearsals on A Moorside Suite are going well at Storm and they are confident of a good result. :)

I reckon the WoE 1st section is going to be a tough one this year; any one of the bands entering could do very well! It's a shame that Soundhouse and Woodfalls Concert have withdrawn though, hope to see them back next year!

Baritonio
19.02.2010, 17:54
I've heard from a reliable source that rehearsals on A Moorside Suite are going well at Storm and they are confident of a good result. :)

I reckon the WoE 1st section is going to be a tough one this year; any one of the bands entering could do very well! It's a shame that Soundhouse and Woodfalls Concert have withdrawn though, hope to see them back next year!

Think the WoE contest is going to be an interesting one in all sections this year. Second section looks like a really good battle too - good luck to Cinderford and Forest of Dean Brass from Gloucestershire and the Bristol based bands too.

samaynsley
20.02.2010, 04:39
I've heard from a reliable source that rehearsals on A Moorside Suite are going well at Storm and they are confident of a good result. :)

I reckon the WoE 1st section is going to be a tough one this year; any one of the bands entering could do very well! It's a shame that Soundhouse and Woodfalls Concert have withdrawn though, hope to see them back next year!

Cheers, Liz. I speak for all of Storm when I state that contrary to any "rumours" that may have circulated, the band shall certainly be entering the Regional Contest. Anybody unlucky enough to know me; I'm sure I'll bump into you at the heinously overpriced excuse for a bar :).

Mesmerist
21.02.2010, 00:19
Its going to take a very good band to beat Aldbourne in the 1st section I believe. :)

Frontman
21.02.2010, 18:38
Its going to take a very good band to beat Aldbourne in the 1st section I believe. :)

And I believe it could be a very close competition, with that VERWOOD CONCERT being there or there abouts. Come on Swampy, no pressure......

Paddy Flower
25.02.2010, 16:06
Paddy's been WAY too kind with his odds with no mark-up. From now on i'm adding my bookies cut on all markets. It means prices will be more realistic to what a real bookie would offer

Championship Section
Flowers - 11/10 fav
Camborne Town - 11/5
Mount Charles - 6/1
Woodfalls - 10/1
Lydbrook - 16/1
St. Dennis - 40/1
Sherborne Town - 40/1
Helston Town - 50/1
Poole Borough - 50/1
Yeovil Town - 100/1

Paddy Flower
25.02.2010, 16:06
First Section
St. Austell Town - 3/1 fav
Aldbourne - 9/2
Bournemouth Concert Brass - 7/1
Verwood Concert Brass - 8/1
Camborne 'B' - 9/1
Storm Brass - 12/1
Portishead Town - 12/1
Otterbourne Brass - 18/1
Michelmersh Silver - 20/1
Ocean Brass - 22/1
Chalford - 25/1
Lympstone South West Telecoms - 28/1
Hyde - 33/1
Lanner & District Silver - 50/1

Paddy Flower
25.02.2010, 16:07
Second Section
Brunel Brass - 4/1 fav
Phoenix Brass (Crewkerne) - 6/1
City Of Bristol - 15/2
Swindon Pegasus Brass - 8/1
Heyl Town - 9/1
Shrewton Silver - 9/1
Cinderford - 14/1
Forest of Dean Brass - 14/1
Bristol East & Kingswood - 16/1
Filton Concert Brass - 16/1
Pendennis Brass (Falmouth) - 18/1
St. Pinnock - 33/1
Gillingham Imperial Silver - 33/1
Wotton & District Silver - 40/1
Solent Concert - 66/1

Paddy Flower
25.02.2010, 16:08
Third Section
St. Breward Silver - 100/30 fav
Bugle Silver - 9/2
Bath Spa - 8/1
Bream Silver - 10/1
Pillowell Silver - 14/1
Denmead Brass - 14/1
Tewkesbury Town - 16/1
Weston Brass - 16/1
Sidmouth Town - 18/1
St. Stythians - 18/1
Corsham - 20/1
Torbay Brass - 22/1
Weymouth Concert Brass - 25/1
South Molton Town - 25/1
Wincanton Silver - 33/1

Paddy Flower
25.02.2010, 16:08
Fourth Section
Test Valley Brass - 13/2 jt fav
A W Parker (Drybrook) - 13/2 jt fav
Verwood 'B' - 8/1
Totnes - 11/1
Downton - 12/1
Chalford Academy - 12/1
Bratton Silver - 12/1
New Forest Brass - 14/1
Swindon Brass - 14/1
Spinnaker Brass - 16/1
Launceston Town - 22/1
Hatherleigh Silver - 25/1
Shanklin Town Brass (IoW) - 25/1
Marshfield - 28/1
Wilton & District - 28/1
Cheltenham Silver - 28/1
Porthleven Town - 33/1
Okehampton Excelsior - 66/1
Lostwithiel Town - 100/1
Wight Brass - 150/1

Keith Lewis
26.02.2010, 11:44
Not playing for the area :((work commitments) but I sat in with portishead for a blow and any band that thinks moorside is easy is a numpty!
I think it will stretch all of the bands as there is now where to hide. The piece demands players to be on top form. I think all of the bands will play the piece however only a few will play it well!

Mesmerist
26.02.2010, 13:50
Agree with you wholeheartedly Keith. Its hard to do those simple things well sometimes like playing together, in tune, dynamics and to play musically without sounding like a dysfunctional robot. Not looking forward to this one at all. So much easier to hide behind lots of semi-quavers. Some parts of it we do play beautifully but others...oh dear oh dear oh dear.

tam-tam2
27.02.2010, 00:42
I think the First Section is going to be a cracking contest, 14 bands possibly all capable of claiming the places if they play well. Having said that - there are some very strong bands who will obviously start as favourites although I believe the real winner on the day will be a certain Mr Holst.....

Independent Silver Band
27.02.2010, 01:25
I certainly wish I could be there to listen and/or participate.

Mesmerist
27.02.2010, 14:33
I wish you could be there Bill :) (though not watching us as that would make me even more twitchy and nervous. Am suffering the pre-contest nerves already. Hate that feeling.)

Independent Silver Band
27.02.2010, 23:58
Just make music. That's the important part.

Mesmerist
28.02.2010, 14:11
What was nice about last nights Concert is that we had 3 great deps from other bands, 2 will be playing English Heritage and 1 competing against us on the 13th. All of us wished each other well and genuinely meant it. So I`m rooting for Woodfalls, Poole and Aldbourne. (And of course Yeovil and Hyde and Otterbourne because the people are so lovely in those bands)

Mesmerist
28.02.2010, 23:13
Well tattybye for a while. Internet ban for our band after tonight. Takes off the pressure of those talking up their chances and seeing the predictions and comments. We will do our best and if it doesn`t come off so be it, (we are not a nervous Band on stage) so see you in the bar at Torquay. Feel free to buy me a red wine if I know you or even if you don`t. Got shockingly drunk last year. Forgot to eat and kept getting handed alchohol while talking to anyone and everyone. Whatever the result in the 1st section - there are 14 damn fine Bands in it anyone of which could take the title. Good luck to all. XXX

tubaminstrel
11.03.2010, 19:18
Good Luck Flowers

tubaminstrel
11.03.2010, 19:19
Good Luck Poole

tubaminstrel
11.03.2010, 19:19
Good Luck Bournemouth

tubaminstrel
11.03.2010, 19:20
Good Luck Shrewton

tubaminstrel
11.03.2010, 19:20
Good Luck Verwood

tubaminstrel
11.03.2010, 19:22
Good luck to everyone

Independent Silver Band
11.03.2010, 19:25
Good luck, and beautiful music to all involved.

Paddy Flower
11.03.2010, 19:47
Luck to all from Paddy for this weekend

Championship Section
Flowers - 11/10 fav
Camborne - 9/4 (from 11/5)
Mount Charles - 5/1 (6/1)
Woodfalls - 9/1 (10/1)
Lydbrook - 25/1 (16/1)
St. Dennis - 28/1 (40/1)
Sherborne - 50/1 (40/1)
Poole - 66/1 (50/1)
Helston - 66/1 (50/1)
Yeovil - 100/1

Paddy Flower
11.03.2010, 19:49
First Section
St. Austell - 11/4 fav (from 3/1)
Aldbourne - 4/1 (9/2)
Bournemouth - 6/1 (7/1)
Verwood - 15/2 (8/1)
Camborne 'B' - 10/1 (9/1)
Storm - 12/1
Portishead - 16/1 (12/1)
Otterbourne - 20/1 (18/1)
Michelmersh - 25/1 (20/1)
Chalford - 25/1
Ocean - 28/1 (22/1)
Lympstone - 28/1
Hyde - 40/1 (33/1)
Lanner - 40/1 (50/1)

Paddy Flower
11.03.2010, 19:49
Second Section
Brunel - 100/30 fav (from 4/1)
Phoenix (Crewkerne) - 6/1
City Of Bristol - 7/1 (15/2)
Heyl - 8/1 (9/1)
Swindon Pegasus - 10/1 (8/1)
Shrewton - 10/1 (9/1)
Cinderford - 14/1
Pendennis - 18/1
Bristol East & Kingswood - 18/1 (16/1)
Forest of Dean - 18/1 (14/1)
Filton - 22/1 (16/1)
St. Pinnock - 33/1
Solent Concert - 40/1 (66/1)
Gillingham Imperial - 40/1 (33/1)
Wotton - 50/1 (40/1)

Paddy Flower
11.03.2010, 19:50
Third Section
St. Breward - 3/1 fav (from 100/30)
Bugle - 4/1 (9/2)
Bath Spa - 8/1
Bream - 8/1 (10/1)
Pillowell - 14/1
St. Stythians - 16/1 (18/1)
Tewkesbury - 18/1 (16/1)
Denmead - 18/1 (14/1)
Weston - 20/1 (16/1)
Sidmouth - 20/1 (18/1)
Torbay - 20/1 (22/1)
Corsham - 22/1 (20/1)
Weymouth - 28/1 (25/1)
South Molton - 28/1 (25/1)
Wincanton - 40/1 (33/1)

Paddy Flower
11.03.2010, 19:51
Fourth Section
Test Valley - 5/1 jt-fav (from 13/2)
A W Parker (Drybrook) - 5/1 jt-fav (13/2)
Verwood 'B' - 9/1 (8/1)
Downton - 12/1
Totnes - 12/1 (11/1)
Bratton - 14/1 (12/1)
Spinnaker - 16/1
Chalford Academy - 16/1 (12/1)
New Forest - 18/1 (14/1)
Launceston - 18/1 (22/1)
Swindon Brass - 18/1 (14/1)
Shanklin - 20/1 (25/1)
Hatherleigh - 25/1
Marshfield - 25/1 (28/1)
Cheltenham - 33/1 (28/1)
Porthleven - 33/1
Wilton - 40/1 (28/1)
Lostwithiel - 66/1 (100/1)
Okehampton - 66/1
Wight - 200/1 (150/1)

Independent Silver Band
11.03.2010, 22:31
Someone please post results.

Sop_Or_Bass?
12.03.2010, 00:06
Someone please post results.
We haven't played yet - watch out this weekend

Independent Silver Band
12.03.2010, 06:29
I meant afterwards.

JesTperfect!
12.03.2010, 10:09
I meant afterwards.

I will - If I like how they turn out! :tongue:

Di
12.03.2010, 13:16
Someone please post results.

You'll be able to find the results on the Predictions page shortly after they've been released. :)

Keith Lewis
12.03.2010, 14:30
Fed up not being able to play, but will enjoy a beer or 2 before (?during) and after cheering on the mighty Portishead.
Up the head!!!!!

Good luck to all!:clap:

Rebel Tuba
13.03.2010, 04:05
Cheers, Liz. I speak for all of Storm when I state that contrary to any "rumours" that may have circulated, the band shall certainly be entering the Regional Contest. Anybody unlucky enough to know me; I'm sure I'll bump into you at the heinously overpriced excuse for a bar :).

Hi all, on the eve of the contests (well actually its 02:51 and I just finished work - can't wait to get a proper job).

As Sam (looking to win the 2nd Baritone Solo award at Torquay, this year) has stated STORM Brass will be present and in what seems to be a tough section and a close call between all the bands with obvious contenders St. Austell, Aldbourne, Bournemouth, and Portishead to name but a group of about 9 good bands looking for honours.

As for STORM, no-one knows how they will perform on the day, including the players, I only know from experience how half a dozen players perform on the contest stage, the rest of the band are all unknown quantities.

Rehearsals have gone very well, but I expect that from all bands in this section and , as per usual, whoever produces the performances that the ADJUDICATORS feel give the music the most justice. The middle movement will be the gaining and losing of a place in the finals.

Any how, good luck to all bands on the day, let battle commence..........

Mesmerist
15.03.2010, 13:56
That was a good weekend. http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=371196241742
Here are some of my lot warming up on the saturday morning...

Independent Silver Band
15.03.2010, 16:00
Am I correct in that there were regional contests in different locations, and the winners compete at Harrogate.

Mesmerist
15.03.2010, 16:06
You are correct Bill. Depends on the number of Bands competing on how many represent their Area. Usually its the 1st two. (Always seems unfair that a Section with under 10 bands sends 2 but ones with nearly 20 competing are also only allocated 2 places).

Chris Hicks
15.03.2010, 17:36
Unless of course you're competing in the Championship section in which case you qualify to play at the Royal Albert Hall

Independent Silver Band
15.03.2010, 21:54
I have asked this before, but I am still unclear. Does everyone at all locations play the same qualifying music, or does each section have there own? Also I believe I was told that this qualifying music is the only selection played, true?

My apologies to those that answered me before. I thought I understood the system, but I am not sure I do.

PeterBale
16.03.2010, 00:41
I have asked this before, but I am still unclear. Does everyone at all locations play the same qualifying music, or does each section have there own? Also I believe I was told that this qualifying music is the only selection played, true?

For the Regional Contests a test piece is selected for each of the five sections - Championship, 1st, 2nd, 3rd & 4th - and that is the only music played by the bands. The winning bands in each section (usually 2, but sometimes more if there are a lot of bands taking part) go on to take part in the National Finals, when they will play a different piece, again, one set for each section.