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Paddy Flower
08.10.2009, 21:51
Cory would be 1/11 favs which puts the outsiders into the silly numbers, so this market is ex-Cory

Championship Section
Tredegar - 6/5 fav
BTM - 11/2
Beaumaris - 15/2
Tongwynlais Temperance - 8/1
Burry Port Town - 12/1
Northop Silver - 25/1
Newbridge (Celynen) - 66/1
Cwmaman Institute Silver - 100/1
Point of Ayr - 100/1
Penclawdd Brass - 200/1

Paddy Flower
08.10.2009, 21:52
First Section
Parc & Dare - 11/4 fav
City of Cardiff (Melingriffith) - 7/2 (national 2nd section champs)
Abergavenny Borough - 13/2
Wrexham Brass - 7/1
Markham & District - 15/2
Pontardulais Town - 16/1
Mid Rhondda - 20/1
Rogerstone - 28/1

Paddy Flower
08.10.2009, 21:53
Second Section
RAF St Athan Voluntary - 7/2 fav
Tylorstown - 4/1
Royal Buckley Town - 8/1
Deiniolen - 8/1
Newtown Silver - 14/1
Briton Ferry Silver - 16/1
Lewis Merthyr - 16/1
Blaenavon Town - 16/1
Llanrug - 22/1
Ynyshir - 40/1
Ammanford Town - 50/1

Paddy Flower
08.10.2009, 21:53
Third Section
Crosskeys Silver - 100/30 fav
Gwaun-Cae-Gurwen - 4/1
Goodwick Brass - 11/2
Llwydcoed - 7/1
Ogmore Valley - 9/1
Corus (Port Talbot) - 11/1
Ebbw Vale - 14/1
Severn Tunnel - 22/1

Paddy Flower
08.10.2009, 21:54
Fourth Section
Pontypool Brass - 13/8 fav
Royal Oakley - 3/1
Crwbin - 11/1
Porthaethwy Menai Bridge - 11/1
Upper Rhondda - 12/1
Knighton Town Silver - 16/1
Newport Borough - 28/1
Ystradgynlais Public - 50/1

007ish
09.10.2009, 13:29
Third Section
Crosskeys Silver - 100/30 fav
Gwaun-Cae-Gurwen - 4/1
Goodwick Brass - 11/2
Llwydcoed - 7/1
Ogmore Valley - 9/1
Corus (Port Talbot) - 11/1
Ebbw Vale - 14/1
Severn Tunnel - 22/1

Sorry to mess up your system Paddy :redface: but Crosskeys Silver are in the Second Section :eek: for 2010/11

Paddy Flower
09.10.2009, 14:54
Sorry to mess up your system Paddy :redface: but Crosskeys Silver are in the Second Section :eek: for 2010/11

Thanks for that

Do you know if that is instead of Royal Buckley or Ynyshir?

Do you know where there is a full grading table confirming proms/rels?

Xentrix
09.10.2009, 15:26
As far as I am aware 3 bands got promoted to second section:

Ynyshir, Crosskeys & Gwaun-Cae-Gurwen

Paddy Flower
09.10.2009, 15:34
Not Royal Buckley? :eek:

As I said can anyone give me a link to confirmed grading table, that'll settle this one I think.

Thanks for the post thou Xentrix :clap:

stopher
10.10.2009, 16:45
I think that Royal Oakley and Porthaethwy Menai Bridge are still Section 3 - not unless we haven't had the letter yet to say we're relegated

mrs universe
10.10.2009, 17:47
Cory would be 1/11 favs which puts the outsiders into the silly numbers, so this market is ex-Cory

Championship Section
Tredegar - 6/5 fav
BTM - 11/2
Beaumaris - 15/2
Tongwynlais Temperance - 8/1 National 1st Section Champs!!
Burry Port Town - 12/1
Northop Silver - 25/1
Newbridge (Celynen) - 66/1
Cwmaman Institute Silver - 100/1
Point of Ayr - 100/1
Penclawdd Brass - 200/1

Isn't Parc & Dare still in this section?

Paddy Flower
10.10.2009, 18:17
Isn't Parc & Dare still in this section?

I have no official grading confirmation here so I had to calculate proms/rels. I reckoned it was P&D and Wrexham that got relegated, i might be wrong...

Deano
11.10.2009, 11:32
As far as I am aware 3 bands got promoted to second section:

Ynyshir, Crosskeys & Gwaun-Cae-Gurwen

4 bands were promoted as they all ended up on 12 points over the 3 years, Royal Buckley, Ynyshir, Crosskeys and Gwaun Cae Gurwen.


I have a copy of the grading tables in front of me, received after the Welsh Regional in March.

Championship Section

Parc & Dare & Wrexham Relegated

1st Section

Point of Ayr Promoted (Tongwynlais as national Champs also promoted after Harrogate)

RAF St Athan Relegated

2nd Section

City of Cardiff & Rogerstone promoted

Holywell & Llywdcoed relegated

3rd Section

Royal Buckley, Ynyshir, Crosskeys and Gwaun Cae Gurwen promoted

Blaenavon Concert relegated

4th Section

Corus, Ebbw Vale & Upper Rhondda promoted.

Dyffryn Nantlle & Lougher removed, not competed fro 3 years

Deano
11.10.2009, 11:35
First Section
Parc & Dare - 11/4 fav
City of Cardiff (Melingriffith) - 7/2 (national 2nd section champs)
Abergavenny Borough - 13/2
Wrexham Brass - 7/1
Markham & District - 15/2
Pontardulais Town - 16/1
Mid Rhondda - 20/1
Rogerstone - 28/1

Treherbert are missing from your list for this section

stopher
11.10.2009, 12:17
So going from that list of promotions etc we should have (and please correct me if I am wrong!)

Champ

Championship Section
Tredegar
BTM
Beaumaris
Tongwynlais Temperance
Burry Port Town
Northop Silver
Newbridge (Celynen)
Cwmaman Institute Silver
Point of Ayr
Penclawdd Brass

1st Section
First Section
Parc & Dare City of Cardiff (Melingriffith) )
Abergavenny Borough
Wrexham Brass
Markham & District
Pontardulais Town
Mid Rhondda
Rogerstone
Treherbert

Second Section
RAF St Athan Voluntary
Tylorstown
Royal Buckley Town
Deiniolen
Newtown Silver
Briton Ferry Silver
Lewis Merthyr
Blaenavon Town
Llanrug
Ynyshir
Ammanford Town
Crosskeys
Gwaun Cae Gurwen

Third Section
Royal Oakley
Goodwick Brass
Llwydcoed
Ogmore Valley
Corus (Port Talbot)
Ebbw Vale
Severn Tunnel
Menai Bridge Porthaethwy
Upper Rhondda
Holywell

Fourth Section
Pontypool Brass
Crwbin
Blaenavon Concert
Knighton Town Silver
Newport Borough
Ystradgynlais Public

Does anybody have the points for each band then?

Mr_Euniverse
11.10.2009, 20:21
So going from that list of promotions etc we should have (and please correct me if I am wrong!)

Champ

Championship Section
Tredegar
BTM
Beaumaris
Tongwynlais Temperance
Burry Port Town
Northop Silver
Newbridge (Celynen)
Cwmaman Institute Silver
Point of Ayr
Penclawdd Brass

Does anybody have the points for each band then?


I wish!

& Cory!

stopher
11.10.2009, 22:57
I wish!

& Cory!

AAAAAAAAAARGH. Schoolboy error!!!!!!!

Paddy Flower
13.10.2009, 13:08
I'm indebted to Deano and Stopher for confirming proms/rels for me :clap::clap: , hopefully we now have the correct bands in the correct sections.

We've also had Burry Port contest at the weekend and these prices reflect those events too.

Championship Section
Cory - 1/11 fav

Rest of the market quoted ex-Cory
Tredegar - 6/5 fav
BTM - 11/2
Beaumaris - 15/2
Tongwynlais Temperance - 8/1
Burry Port Town - 14/1 (from 12/1)
Northop Silver - 25/1
Newbridge (Celynen) - 66/1
Cwmaman Institute Silver - 66/1 (100/1)
Point of Ayr - 100/1
Penclawdd Brass - 200/1

Paddy Flower
13.10.2009, 13:10
First Section
Parc & Dare - 5/2 fav (from 11/4)
City of Cardiff (Melingriffith) - 4/1 (7/2)
Wrexham Brass - 13/2 (7/1)
Markham & District - 15/2
Abergavenny Borough - 8/1 (13/2)
Pontardulais Town - 18/1 (16/1)
Mid Rhondda - 20/1
Rogerstone - 22/1 (28/1)

Treherbert haven't played in any contest for 2 years (to my knowledge) so for the time being i'm assuming they won't be entering

Paddy Flower
13.10.2009, 13:12
Second Section
Tylorstown - 100/30 fav (from 4/1)
RAF St Athan Voluntary - 15/2 (7/2 fav)
Royal Buckley Town - 9/1 (8/1)
Deiniolen - 9/1 (8/1)
Newtown Silver - 14/1
Briton Ferry Silver - 14/ (16/1)
Blaenavon Town - 16/1
Crosskeys Silver - 18/1
Ynyshir - 20/1 (40/1)
Llanrug - 22/1
Gwaun-Cae-Gurwen - 25/1
Lewis Merthyr - 25/1 (16/1)
Ammanford Town - 50/1

This market now includes Crosskeys & Gwaun-Cae-Gurwen

Paddy Flower
13.10.2009, 13:13
Third Section
Goodwick Brass - 9/2 fav (from 11/2)
Llwydcoed - 5/1 (7/1)
Royal Oakley - 11/2
Ogmore Valley - 15/2 (9/1)
Corus (Port Talbot) - 8/1 (11/1)
Ebbw Vale - 10/1 (14/1)
Severn Tunnel - 16/1 (22/1)
Upper Rhondda - 16/1
Porthaethwy Menai Bridge - 18/1

All bands have shortened considerably as 2 of the favorites are now in Section 2

Holywell haven't played in any contest for 2 years (to my knowledge) so for the time being i'm assuming they won't be entering

Paddy Flower
13.10.2009, 13:15
Fourth Section
Pontypool Brass - 4/5 fav (from 13/8 )
Crwbin - 9/2 (11/1)
Knighton Town Silver - 13/2 (16/1)
Newport Borough - 11/1 (28/1)
Ystradgynlais Public - 20/1 (50/1)

Again they've all shortened as this market in smaller than first thought

Blaenafon Concert haven't played in any contest for 2 years (to my knowledge) so for the time being i'm assuming they won't be entering

Paddy Flower
20.10.2009, 16:30
Following the Welsh excursion along the M4 last weekend

Championship Section
Tredegar - 2/1 fav (from 6/5)
BTM - 9/2 (11/2)
Beaumaris - 6/1 (15/2)
Tongwynlais Temperance - 6/1 (8/1)
Burry Port Town - 10/1 (14/1)
Northop Silver - 20/1 (25/1)
Cwmaman Institute Silver - 40/1 (66/1)
Newbridge (Celynen) - 50/1 (66/1)
Point of Ayr - 66/1 (100/1)
Penclawdd Brass - 150/1 (200/1)

This market is now being quoted x-Cory as they have already qualified for Oct 2010

Paddy Flower
31.10.2009, 13:13
And then a few headed to North Wales last weekend...

Championship Section
Tredegar - 5/2 fav (from 2/1)
Tongwynlais Temperance - 4/1 (6/1)
BTM - 5/1 (9/2)
Beaumaris - 13/2 (6/1)
Burry Port Town - 11/1 (10/1)
Northop Silver - 22/1 (20/1)
Point of Ayr - 50/1 (66/1)
Cwmaman Institute Silver - 50/1 (40/1)
Newbridge (Celynen) - 50/1
Penclawdd Brass - 150/1
This market is now being quoted x-Cory as they have already qualified for Oct 2010

Pontins (Tongwynlais & Point of Ayr)

Paddy Flower
31.10.2009, 13:14
First Section
Pontardulais Town - 20/1 (from 18/1)
Rogerstone - 20/1 (22/1)

Pontins (Rogerstone)

All other prices are as per previous post

Paddy Flower
31.10.2009, 13:17
Second Section
Tylorstown - 11/4 fav (from 100/30)
RAF St Athan Voluntary - 7/1 (15/2)
Royal Buckley Town - 8/1 (9/1)
Newtown Silver - 14/1
Briton Ferry Silver - 14/1
Deiniolen - 14/1 (9/1)
Blaenavon Town - 14/1 (16/1)
Ynyshir - 18/1 (20/1)
Llanrug - 20/1 (22/1)
Gwaun-Cae-Gurwen - 22/1 (25/1)
Lewis Merthyr - 22/1 (25/1)
Crosskeys Silver - 28/1 (18/1)
Ammanford Town - 40/1 (50/1)

Pontins (Tylorstown, Deiniolen, Crosskeys)

Paddy Flower
31.10.2009, 13:18
Third Section
Goodwick Brass - 3/1 fav (from 9/2)
Llwydcoed - 11/2 (5/1)
Royal Oakley - 13/2 (11/2)
Ogmore Valley - 8/1 (15/2)
Corus (Port Talbot) - 9/1 (8/1)
Ebbw Vale - 11/1 (10/1)
Severn Tunnel - 16/1
Porthaethwy Menai Bridge - 18/1
Upper Rhondda - 18/1 (16/1)

Pontins (Goodwick)

Paddy Flower
04.12.2009, 21:08
Championship Section
Tongwynlais Temperance - 4/1 jt fav
BTM - 4/1 jt fav (from 5/1)
Tredegar - 5/1 (5/2)
Beaumaris - 11/2 (13/2)
Burry Port Town - 8/1 (11/1) - Take your pick from these five

Northop Silver - 16/1 (22/1)
Cwmaman Institute Silver - 28/1 (50/1)
Point of Ayr - 33/1 (50/1)
Newbridge (Celynen) - 40/1 (50/1)
Penclawdd Brass - 100/1 (150/1)

This market is now being quoted x-Cory as they have already qualified for Oct 2010

21/11 SEWBBA Blaenavon (Burry Port, Cwmaman, Tredegar, Penclawdd & Tongwynlais)
21/11 North Wales BBA (Beaumaris & Point of Ayr)

Paddy Flower
04.12.2009, 21:09
First Section
Parc & Dare - 9/4 fav (from 5/2)
Wrexham Brass - 6/1 (13/2)
City of Cardiff (Melingriffith) - 6/1 (4/1)
Markham & District - 7/1 (15/2)
Pontardulais Town - 9/1 (20/1) - sure to spark the odd comment or two
Abergavenny Borough - 11/1 (8/1)
Rogerstone - 16/1 (20/1)
Mid Rhondda - 20/1

15/11 Wilkinson Northern Open (Wrexham)
21/11 SEWBBA Blaenavon (Pontadulais, Markham, Abergavenny, Rogerstone, CoCardiff,

Paddy Flower
04.12.2009, 21:10
Second Section
Tylorstown - 11/4 fav
RAF St Athan Voluntary - 8/1 (from 7/1)
Royal Buckley Town - 8/1
Blaenavon Town - 12/1 (14/1)
Deiniolen - 14/1
Ynyshir - 16/1 (18/1)
Briton Ferry Silver - 16/1 (14/1)
Lewis Merthyr - 16/1 (22/1)
Newtown Silver - 18/1 (14/1)
Llanrug - 22/1 (20/1)
Gwaun-Cae-Gurwen - 28/1 (22/1)
Crosskeys Silver - 28/1
Ammanford Town - 50/1 (40/1)

15/11 Wilkinson Northern Open (Newtown)
21/11 SEWBBA Blaenavon (St. Athan, Tylorstown, Blaenavon, Briton Ferry, L.Merthyr, Ynyshir, Crosskeys & G-C-G)
21/11 North Wales BBA (Deiniolen & Llanrug)

Paddy Flower
04.12.2009, 21:28
Third Section
Goodwick Brass - 3/1 fav
Llwydcoed - 5/1 (from 11/2)
Royal Oakley - 13/2
Corus (Port Talbot) - 15/2 (9/1)
Ogmore Valley - 8/1
Ebbw Vale - 16/1 (11/1)
Severn Tunnel - 18/1 (16/1)
Upper Rhondda - 18/1
Porthaethwy Menai Bridge - 18/1

21/11 SEWBBA Blaenavon (Llewdcoed, Goodwick, Corus, Upper Rhondda & Ebbw Vale)
22/11 Gloucester BBA (Corus)

Paddy Flower
04.12.2009, 21:28
Fourth Section
Pontypool Brass - 8/11 fav (from 4/5)
Crwbin - 5/1 (9/2)
Knighton Town Silver - 15/2 (13/2)
Newport Borough - 12/1 (11/1)
Ystradgynlais Public - 20/1

21/11 SEWBBA Blaenavon (Pontypool, Crwbin, Newport & Ystrad)22/11 Gloucester BBA (Newport)

Alyn James
05.12.2009, 09:55
First Section
Pontardulais Town - 9/1 (20/1) - sure to spark the odd comment or two


His head's more of a cuboid than a square....:icon_eek:

stopher
03.01.2010, 23:14
Don't suppose anyone could post up a copy of the grading tables by any chance?

Val
27.01.2010, 15:06
Just to let you know - Rhyl Silver are going in the 4th section so you could add them as 100/1 outsiders (although they did come 3rd out of a field of 9 at the N Wales Championships in November). In the 2nd section, Royal Buckley are now now going.

Val
27.01.2010, 15:07
now[/B] going.

Sorry, senior moment! They are now NOT going!

Paddy Flower
27.01.2010, 16:23
Just to let you know - Rhyl Silver are going in the 4th section so you could add them as 100/1 outsiders (although they did come 3rd out of a field of 9 at the N Wales Championships in November). In the 2nd section, Royal Buckley are now now going.

Any chance of the full field (result) in that contest, I have you 3rd but I thought there was only 3 in it. Would be delighted to add you

I'm sure more than 5 will go to post at the area, but who??

Paddy Flower
28.01.2010, 11:33
Second Section
Tylorstown - 4/1 fav (from 11/4)
RAF St Athan Voluntary - 5/1 (8/1)
Royal Buckley Town - 15/2 (8/1) but have they withdrawn ??
Blaenavon Town - 11/1 (12/1)
Deiniolen - 14/1
Ynyshir - 16/1
Briton Ferry Silver - 16/1
Newtown Silver - 18/1
Lewis Merthyr - 20/1 (16/1)
Llanrug - 22/1
Gwaun-Cae-Gurwen - 28/1
Crosskeys Silver - 28/1
Ammanford Town - 50/1
Butlins (Tylorstown & Lewis Merthyr)

The Fancys - Evens
From the Pack - 11/10
An Outsider - 50/1 (Ammanford)



Second Section - (Senza Royal Buckley)
Tylorstown - 100/30
RAF St Athan Voluntary - 9/2
Blaenavon Town - 10/1
Deiniolen - 12/1
Ynyshir - 14/1
Briton Ferry Silver - 14/1
Newtown Silver - 16/1
Lewis Merthyr - 18/1
Llanrug - 20/1
Gwaun-Cae-Gurwen - 25/1
Crosskeys Silver - 25/1
Ammanford Town - 40/1

The Fancys - 10/11
From the Pack - 6/5
An Outsider - 40/1 (Ammanford)

Val
28.01.2010, 19:55
Sorry, can't remember where everyone else came, but there were definitely 9 in our section - that was why we were so chuffed to come 3rd!! Looks like I am out of exile for a few months and probably playing the dreaded cornet again at the Area, but quite enjoying the testpiece (Saint Saens).

Paddy Flower
30.01.2010, 12:46
Sorry, can't remember where everyone else came, but there were definitely 9 in our section - that was why we were so chuffed to come 3rd!! Looks like I am out of exile for a few months and probably playing the dreaded cornet again at the Area, but quite enjoying the testpiece (Saint Saens).

OK, not much recent form to go but maybe...

7/1

Po's the name
30.01.2010, 15:25
I understand Upper Rhondda are in the 4th Section????


Paul Robinson

Paddy Flower
30.01.2010, 16:19
I understand Upper Rhondda are in the 4th Section????

Paul Robinson

Oops :oops: no reason why they wouldn't be there this year.

There's a few other possible runners as well so here's a fresh look at this section...

Fourth Section
Pontypool Brass - 6/4 fav (from 8/11)
Upper Rhondda - 5/1
Crwbin - 8/1 (5/1)
Knighton Town Silver - 11/1 (15/2)
Rhyl Silver - 12/1 (7/1)
Newport Borough - 16/1 (12/1)
Ystradgynlais Public - 28/1 (20/1)
Oakdale Silver - 28/1
Abergynolwyn - 33/1

The Fancys - 5/11
From the Pack - 11/5
An Outsider - None

tubatone
04.02.2010, 14:36
Third Section
Goodwick Brass - 3/1 fav
Llwydcoed - 5/1 (from 11/2)
Royal Oakley - 13/2
Corus (Port Talbot) - 15/2 (9/1)
Ogmore Valley - 8/1
Ebbw Vale - 16/1 (11/1)
Severn Tunnel - 18/1 (16/1)
Upper Rhondda - 18/1
Porthaethwy Menai Bridge - 18/1

21/11 SEWBBA Blaenavon (Llewdcoed, Goodwick, Corus, Upper Rhondda & Ebbw Vale)
22/11 Gloucester BBA (Corus)

Third Section only six bands have enterred

Goodwick
Corus
Ebbw Vale
Royal Oakley
Llwydcoed
Ogmore Valley

Deano
06.02.2010, 19:33
Oops :oops: no reason why they wouldn't be there this year.

There's a few other possible runners as well so here's a fresh look at this section...

Fourth Section
Pontypool Brass - 6/4 fav (from 8/11)
Upper Rhondda - 5/1
Crwbin - 8/1 (5/1)
Knighton Town Silver - 11/1 (15/2)
Rhyl Silver - 12/1 (7/1)
Newport Borough - 16/1 (12/1)
Ystradgynlais Public - 28/1 (20/1)
Oakdale Silver - 28/1
Abergynolwyn - 33/1

The Fancys - 5/11
From the Pack - 11/5
An Outsider - None

Abertillery have entered this year, 1st time since 2003.

Paddy Flower
09.02.2010, 13:39
Third Section only six bands have enterred

Goodwick
Corus
Ebbw Vale
Royal Oakley
Llwydcoed
Ogmore Valley


Abertillery have entered this year, 1st time since 2003.

Are either of you (or anyone else) able to provide a FULL confirmed list for all sections, t'would be helpful

Paddy Flower
09.02.2010, 16:34
Championship Section
BTM - 7/2 jt fav (from 4/1)
Tredegar - 7/2 jt fav (5/1)
Tongwynlais Temperance - 9/2 (4/1)
Beaumaris - 6/1 (11/2)
Burry Port Town - 9/1 (8/1)

Northop Silver - 18/1 (16/1)
Cwmaman Institute Silver - 33/1 (28/1)

Point of Ayr - 40/1 (33/1)
Newbridge (Celynen) - 40/1
Penclawdd Brass - 150/1 (100/1)

6/2 Yeovil (BTM, Tred & Tong)

This market is now being quoted x-Cory as they have already qualified for Oct 2010

The Fancys - 2/13
From the Pack - 12/1
An Outsider - 18/1

Paddy Flower
09.02.2010, 17:57
Abertillery have entered this year, 1st time since 2003.

I'd say around the 22/1 mark

Paddy Flower
11.02.2010, 15:02
Third Section
Goodwick Brass - 13/8 fav (from 3/1)
Llwydcoed - 4/1 (5/1)
Corus (Port Talbot) - 6/1 (15/2)
Royal Oakley - 7/1 (13/2)
Ogmore Valley - 8/1

Ebbw Vale - 18/1 (16/1)

Severn Tunnel - Not Entered (18/1)
Upper Rhondda - Not Entered (18/1)
Porthaethwy Menai Bridge - Not Entered (18/1)

7/2 Gloucester BBA (Corus & Llwydcoed)

The Fancys - 1/18
From the Pack - 18/1
An Outsider - None

Paddy Flower
11.02.2010, 16:07
I'm going to bow to pressure early here and quote this market with Cory as the (valid) point was made that they will be in it for Euro qualification

Championship Section
Cory - 2/13 fav

BTM - 33/1
Tredegar - 33/1

Tongwynlais Temperance - 40/1
Beaumaris - 50/1
Burry Port Town - 100/1
Northop Silver - 150/1
Cwmaman Institute Silver - 350/1
Point of Ayr - 350/1
Newbridge (Celynen) - 350/1
Penclawdd Brass - 1000/1

The Fancy (just Cory) - 2/13
From the Pack - 16/1
An Outsider - 14/1

Alyn James
21.02.2010, 09:19
Any movements planned for the 33/1s?

Paddy Flower
25.02.2010, 14:30
Paddy's been WAY too kind with his odds with no mark-up. From now on i'm adding my bookies cut on all markets. It means prices will be more realistic to what a real bookie would offer


Championship Section
Cory - 1/5 fav
Tredegar - 9/2
BTM - 12/1
Tongwynlais Temperance - 22/1
Point of Ayr - 50/1
Beaumaris - 66/1
Burry Port Town - 150/1
Northop Silver - 200/1
Cwmaman Institute Silver - 350/1
Penclawdd Brass - 2000/1

Without The Favortite
Tredegar - 4/6
BTM - 3/1
Tongwynlais Temperance - 6/1
Point of Ayr - 14/1
Beaumaris - 18/1
Burry Port Town - 40/1
Northop Silver - 66/1
Cwmaman Institute Silver - 100/1
Penclawdd Brass - 1000/1

Paddy Flower
25.02.2010, 14:31
First Section
Parc & Dare - 15/8 fav
Wrexham Brass - 4/1
City of Cardiff (Melingriffith) - 4/1
Abergavenny Borough - 13/2
Markham & District - 7/1
Pontardulais Town - 9/1
Rogerstone - 14/1

Paddy Flower
25.02.2010, 14:31
Second Section
Tylorstown - 11/4 fav
Deiniolen - 5/1
Royal Buckley Town - 11/2
RAF St Athan Voluntary - 11/2
Blaenavon Town - 10/1
Lewis Merthyr - 12/1
Ynyshir - 16/1
Newtown Silver - 20/1
Crosskeys Silver - 20/1
Llanrug - 20/1
Briton Ferry Silver - 22/1
Gwaun-Cae-Gurwen - 28/1

Paddy Flower
25.02.2010, 14:32
Third Section
Goodwick Brass - 2/1 fav
Corus (Port Talbot) - 11/4
Llwydcoed - 5/1
Royal Oakley - 11/2
Ebbw Vale - 11/2
Ogmore Valley - 8/1

Paddy Flower
25.02.2010, 14:32
Fourth Section
Pontypool Brass - 9/4 fav
Upper Rhondda - 7/2
Rhyl Silver - 9/2
Newport Borough - 7/1
Crwbin - 7/1
Mellingriffith 2 - 15/2
Ruthin Town - 22/1
Oakdale Silver - 25/1
Abertillery Youth - 28/1

the shed builder
25.02.2010, 15:34
Paddy's been WAY too kind with his odds with no mark-up. From now on i'm adding my bookies cut on all markets. It means prices will be more realistic to what a real bookie would offer


Championship Section
Cory - 1/5 fav
Tredegar - 9/2
BTM - 12/1
Tongwynlais Temperance - 22/1
Point of Ayr - 50/1
Beaumaris - 66/1
Burry Port Town - 150/1
Northop Silver - 200/1
Cwmaman Institute Silver - 350/1
Penclawdd Brass - 2000/1

Without The Favortite
Tredegar - 4/6
BTM - 3/1
Tongwynlais Temperance - 6/1
Point of Ayr - 14/1
Beaumaris - 18/1
Burry Port Town - 40/1
Northop Silver - 66/1
Cwmaman Institute Silver - 100/1
Penclawdd Brass - 1000/1
How come point of ayr have overtaken quite a few bands? we havent contested since november. im not complaining, just curious :):)

Paddy Flower
25.02.2010, 16:05
How come point of ayr have overtaken quite a few bands? we havent contested since november. im not complaining, just curious :):)

Point of Ayr have attracted some early votes in tMP Predictions, this is the first time I've quoted this market since the predictions started

Alyn James
26.02.2010, 16:11
Who predicted Point to win? Was it Shed n KKKKatie? Proper soft mun....:)

the shed builder
26.02.2010, 18:35
Who predicted Point to win? Was it Shed n KKKKatie? Proper soft mun....:)
ha ha i love my band to bits, but i can assure you that i havent predicted "Point" to win, infact neither of the predictors are our band members :eek: does somebody know something i dont???!!!!!

dyl
26.02.2010, 20:06
Who predicted Point to win? Was it Shed n KKKKatie? Proper soft mun....:)

If you click on the relevant number (and it's on 2 at the moment) then you'll be able to see for yourself!

Alyn James
27.02.2010, 13:48
So that's how it works! Cheers dyl (sorry Shed n KKKKatie:))

I see Ton Band has predicted Ton Band to come first....now who's proper soft....

the shed builder
27.02.2010, 14:27
So that's how it works! Cheers dyl (sorry Shed n KKKKatie:))

I see Ton Band has predicted Ton Band to come first....now who's proper soft....
apology accepted ;)

Paddy Flower
09.03.2010, 16:40
A little nearer now, so a penultimate update of odds...

Championship Section
Cory - 2/9 fav (from 1/5)
Tredegar - 7/2 (9/2)
BTM - 11/1 (12/1)
Tongwynlais - 18/1 (22/1)
Point of Ayr - 40/1 (50/1)
Beaumaris - 40/1 (66/1)
Burry Port - 200/1 (150/1)
Northop - 250/1 (200/1)
Cwmaman - 250/1 (350/1)
Penclawdd - 2000/1

Without The Favortite
Tredegar - 8/13
BTM - 100/30
Tongwynlais - 11/2
Point of Ayr - 14/1
Beaumaris - 16/1
Burry Port - 66/1
Northop - 66/1
Cwmaman - 100/1
Penclawdd - 500/1

Paddy Flower
09.03.2010, 16:41
First Section
Parc & Dare - 7/4 fav (from 15/8 )
Wrexham - 7/2 (4/1)
City of Cardiff - 4/1
Abergavenny - 13/2
Pontardulais - 7/1 (9/1)
Markham & District - 10/1 (7/1)
Rogerstone - 18/1 (14/1)

Paddy Flower
09.03.2010, 16:42
Second Section
Tylorstown - 11/4 fav
Deiniolen - 4/1 (from 5/1)
Royal Buckley - 11/2
RAF St Athan - 7/1 (11/2)
Lewis Merthyr - 10/1 (12/1)
Blaenavon Town - 11/1 (10/1)
Crosskeys - 18/1 (20/1)
Ynyshir - 18/1 (16/1)
Llanrug - 20/1
Newtown - 22/1 (20/1)
Briton Ferry - 33/1 (22/1)
Gwaun-Cae-Gurwen - 40/1 (28/1)

Paddy Flower
09.03.2010, 16:42
Third Section
Goodwick - 9/4 jt fav (from 2/1)
Corus - 9/4 jt fav (11/4)
Ebbw Vale - 5/1 (11/2)
Llwydcoed - 11/2 (5/1)
Royal Oakley - 6/1 (11/2)
Ogmore Valley - 10/1 (8/1)

Paddy Flower
09.03.2010, 16:43
Fourth Section
Pontypool - 2/1 fav (from 9/4)
Upper Rhondda - 4/1 (7/2)
Rhyl - 9/2
Newport - 6/1 (7/1)
Mellingriffith 2 - 7/1 (15/2)
Crwbin - 9/1 (7/1)
Ruthin - 28/1 (22/1)
Abertillery - 28/1
Oakdale - 33/1 (25/1)

dyl
14.03.2010, 15:31
@Di - Predictions contest seems to be closed as it has the wrong dates for each section! Welsh Regional isn't till next week! ;)

Di
15.03.2010, 01:03
Eeek! How bizarre (or stupid!). I got all the dates right in the thread, I've even got the date right on the front page of the Welsh Regional, but the individual sections have totally the wrong week! Unfortunately, once entered, this part of the information is buried in the database and I need "him indoors" to change that for me. I'll have a word and it should be up and running by tomorrow evening.

Apologies to those waiting to predict. :redface:

the shed builder
15.03.2010, 02:00
Eeek! How bizarre (or stupid!). I got all the dates right in the thread, I've even got the date right on the front page of the Welsh Regional, but the individual sections have totally the wrong week! Unfortunately, once entered, this part of the information is buried in the database and I need "him indoors" to change that for me. I'll have a word and it should be up and running by tomorrow evening.

Apologies to those waiting to predict. :redface:
phew..............thought id missed my own area for a minute :eek:

Di
15.03.2010, 20:48
Sorted. :)

You should now be able to predict again. Phew. :oops:

dyl
15.03.2010, 23:36
Sorted. :)

You should now be able to predict again. Phew. :oops:

:tup

Chris Hicks
16.03.2010, 01:00
Wouldn't mind a cheeky one on a Beaumaris qualifier, just to upset the games!

Ospreys Trombone
17.03.2010, 15:53
How patronising - Penclawdd 500/1 I didn't realise we were held in quite such low esteme amongst the rest of the banding fraternity? I'll concede we're unlikely to rival Cory or Tredegar or some others but some bands are deluding themselves if they think there is that much of a gulf between top and bottom of the Championship section?! Undoubtedly come the results a North Wales Band will be up there in the mix of top 5 or even top 3 but I'll wager there'll be a few upsets on Sunday and with a fair wind perhaps Penclawdd can claim a few scalps and make that 500/1 look ridiculous!

Alyn James
17.03.2010, 16:03
:terrierPENCLAWDD FOR THE CUP!!!!!:terrierWAHEEEEYYY!!!!!!

dyl
17.03.2010, 16:41
How patronising - Penclawdd 500/1 I didn't realise we were held in quite such low esteme amongst the rest of the banding fraternity? I'll concede we're unlikely to rival Cory or Tredegar or some others but some bands are deluding themselves if they think there is that much of a gulf between top and bottom of the Championship section?! Undoubtedly come the results a North Wales Band will be up there in the mix of top 5 or even top 3 but I'll wager there'll be a few upsets on Sunday and with a fair wind perhaps Penclawdd can claim a few scalps and make that 500/1 look ridiculous!

I'm guessing you didn't see the version of the odds that took Cory into account, giving you 2000/1 then? ;)

Don't take it so serious man, it's only a bit of fun!

Take it as a challenge to prove Paddy wrong! All the best on Sunday!

Alyn James
17.03.2010, 17:35
Don't take it so serious man, it's only a bit of fun!

Take it as a challenge to prove Paddy wrong! All the best on Sunday!

Ditto! :)

the shed builder
18.03.2010, 01:40
Ditto! :)
yep ditto again:tup good luck on sunday, il take a tenner at 500/1 might just cover my bar bill :guiness

Ospreys Trombone
18.03.2010, 14:22
It was meant tongue in cheek! Would be ****** nice to prove people wrong though - just as long as the results don't smack of politics and the competition doesn't run behind by 4 hours and the pubs are closed when we get off stage i'll be happy - enjoying an overpriced, gassy pint of stella served by a student who's never worked behind a bar before in the hot and sticky Brangwyn Bar!

Paddy Flower
18.03.2010, 15:21
Championship Section
Cory - 4/11 fav (from 2/9)
Tredegar - 100/30 (7/2)
BTM - 11/1
Tongwynlais - 16/1 (18/1)
Point of Ayr - 33/1 (40/1)
Beaumaris - 40/1
Northop - 150/1 (250/1)
Penclawdd - 150/1 (2000/1) a couple of very unpatronising punters having a bash it seems
Burry Port - 200/1
Cwmaman - 200/1 (250/1)

Without The Favortite
Tredegar - 8/13
BTM - 7/2
Tongwynlais - 6/1
Point of Ayr - 12/1
Beaumaris - 16/1
Northop - 50/1
Penclawdd - 66/1
Burry Port - 66/1
Cwmaman - 66/1

Paddy Flower
18.03.2010, 15:22
First Section
Parc & Dare - 15/8 fav (from 7/4) thou 4br say last, we'll see...
Wrexham - 7/2
City of Cardiff - 4/1
Abergavenny - 6/1 (13/2)
Pontardulais - 7/1
Markham & District - 10/1
Rogerstone - 18/1

Paddy Flower
18.03.2010, 15:22
Second Section
Tylorstown - 11/4 fav
Deiniolen - 100/30 (from 4/1)
Royal Buckley - 6/1 (11/2)
RAF St Athan - 7/1
Lewis Merthyr - 9/1 (10/1)
Blaenavon Town - 14/1 (11/1)
Llanrug - 18/1 (20/1)
Ynyshir - 20/1 (18/1)
Crosskeys - 20/1 (18/1)
Newtown - 25/1 (22/1)
Gwaun-Cae-Gurwen - 40/1
Briton Ferry - 40/1 (33/1)

Paddy Flower
18.03.2010, 15:23
Third Section
Corus - 2/1 fav (from 9/4)
Goodwick - 5/2 (9/4)
Ebbw Vale - 9/2 (5/1)
Royal Oakley - 11/2 (6/1)
Llwydcoed - 11/2
Ogmore Valley - 10/1

Paddy Flower
18.03.2010, 15:24
Fourth Section
Pontypool - 2/1 fav
Rhyl - 9/2
Upper Rhondda - 9/2 (from 4/1)
Newport - 5/1 (6/1)
Mellingriffith 2 - 15/2 (7/1)
Crwbin - 10/1 (9/1)
Ruthin - 22/1 (28/1)
Abertillery - 28/1
Oakdale - 33/1

Statto
18.03.2010, 23:30
Place your bets?

This might help
http://www.brassstats.com/area-qualifiers-history.aspx?id=8

Best of luck to all competing bands in Swansea this weekend.

the shed builder
20.03.2010, 02:46
It was meant tongue in cheek! Would be ****** nice to prove people wrong though - just as long as the results don't smack of politics and the competition doesn't run behind by 4 hours and the pubs are closed when we get off stage i'll be happy - enjoying an overpriced, gassy pint of stella served by a student who's never worked behind a bar before in the hot and sticky Brangwyn Bar!
isnt it supposed to be us gogs doing the moaning?? :rolleyes: ........... by the way did i tell you that its a five hour drive for us???? ;) good luck to everyone taking part in the brangwyn this weekend.

dyl
20.03.2010, 06:13
........... by the way did i tell you that its a five hour drive for us???? ;)

Hehe! True! Just about to set off now! Good luck everyone.

007ish
20.03.2010, 20:58
Taken fom 4barsrest


Second Section:

Result:
1. Tylorstown (G. Davies), 12*:clap:11/4 fav
2. Deiniolen (G. Saynor), 11*:clap:100/30
3. Lewis Merthyr (G. Pritchard), 3
4. Llanrug (P. Hughes), 10
5. Blaenavon Town (A. Protherough-Jones), 1
6. Gwaun Cae Gurwen (G.R. Davies), 7
7. Royal Buckley Town (J. Doyle), 4
8. Crosskeys Silver (K. Bowden), 9
9. Briton Ferry (Dr. C. Jenkins), 6
10. Newtown Silver (S. Edwards), 8
11. Yynshir (D. Evans), 5
12. RAF St. Athan Voluntary (A.R. Bourne), 2

Best Instrumentalist: Daniel Taylor (euphonium), Deiniolen


Third Section:11/2


Result:
1. Goodwick (M. Jenkins), 5*:clap:5/2
2. Llwydcoed (G. Davies), 1* :clap:11/2
3. Corus (Port Talbot) (C. Hogg), 4
4. Ogmore Valley (Miss A. Jones), 2
5. Oakeley Silver (J. Davies), 6
6. Ebbw Vale (C. Thomas), 3

Best Instrumentalist: Iestyn Davies (cornet) Llwydcoed

jamieow
20.03.2010, 21:27
Pontadulais 1st, Wxm 2nd in 1st Sect.

RobBari
21.03.2010, 00:15
just like to point out that best instrumentalist in 1st section, Lewis West, is Princ. cornet with Markham and District Band NOT Pontardulais.

Congrats to Pont and Wrexham on qualifying for Harrogate.

Baritonio
21.03.2010, 00:50
Nice one Lewis on the solo prize!

brassneck
21.03.2010, 15:32
Draw now up on 4BR for the top section. Is it just me or are Northop a bit unlucky when it comes to draws?

1 - Northop (T. Wyss)
2 - Beaumaris (G. Evans)
3 - Point of Ayr Colliery (J. Hinckley)
4 - Tongwynlais Temperance (P. Harper)
5 - Penclawdd Brass (D.A. Small)
6 - Burry Port Town (C. Roberts)
7 - Cory (Dr. R. Childs)
8 - Tredegar (I. Porthouse)
9 - Cwmaman Institute (C. Roberts)
10 - BTM (T. Davoren)

Mr_Euniverse
21.03.2010, 19:35
Yes Yes yes yes yes yes!!!!!!!!!!!! Ton to make debut in the FINALS!!!!!!! What a performance and well deserved.

brassneck
21.03.2010, 19:37
Yes Yes yes yes yes yes!!!!!!!!!!!! Ton to make debut in the FINALS!!!!!!! What a performance and well deserved.

Tell us more ...

brassneck
21.03.2010, 19:40
Tredegar win in Wales with Cory second and Tongwynlais making the trip to the Albert Hall (4BR Twitter)

_si
21.03.2010, 19:46
Wow!

Di
21.03.2010, 19:54
At the risk of sounding like a nagging housewife, can we have post-contest general chat in the relevant regional threads and keep Mr Flowers threads for virtually claiming on the virtual bets. This will help prevent running dual and confusing conversations. Cheers me dears. ;)

Alyn James
22.03.2010, 11:45
Gutted....
A quid lost is a quid lost whether the odds are 150/1 or 2000/1.
Thanks Roland....you owe me a half.....:(

Paddy Flower
22.03.2010, 12:52
Wouldn't mind a cheeky one on a Beaumaris qualifier, just to upset the games!

:guiness