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tubafran
28.09.2009, 12:05
So of the winning bands this weekend did any receive an automatic promotion to the their respective higher sections?

1st to Champs - Tongwynlais Temperance
2nd to 1st - City of Cardiff (Melingriffith
3rd to 2nd - Brunel Brass
4th to 3rd - St. Breward Silver,

or were these bands already promoted for next year through the area results?

ophicliede
28.09.2009, 12:48
Brunel Brass has been promoted to 2nd Section by winning the finals. We were in line to be promoted to 2nd Section with a good result next year at the areas. So we are promoted effectively a year early. Only promoted from the 4th Section to 3rd this year.

Jessika
28.09.2009, 18:30
Congratulations to everyone at Brunel Brass. It was a fantastic weekend! :)

DMBabe
29.09.2009, 00:48
I don't get this....... in Scotland when you qualify for Harrogate you automatically get promoted. You can appeal against promotion but it hardly ever works. Likewise with the appealing against relegation. Your entire contesting status is dicatated by a top 2 placing at one contest....... not that I agree with it.

Deano
29.09.2009, 09:59
So of the winning bands this weekend did any receive an automatic promotion to the their respective higher sections?

1st to Champs - Tongwynlais Temperance
2nd to 1st - City of Cardiff (Melingriffith
3rd to 2nd - Brunel Brass
4th to 3rd - St. Breward Silver,

or were these bands already promoted for next year through the area results?

As far as I can remember, City of Cardiff had already been promoted to the 1st section based on the 3 year aggregate, Point of Ayr were promoted after the Welsh area to the championship section based on the 3 year aggregate so Tongwynlais will now join them.

cookie101880
29.09.2009, 10:06
Oldham have been promoted to the 1st section as well. First year in 2nd section, won area, 2nd in the nationals and gone up!!

tubafran
29.09.2009, 10:34
I don't get this....... in Scotland when you qualify for Harrogate you automatically get promoted. You can appeal against promotion but it hardly ever works. Likewise with the appealing against relegation. Your entire contesting status is dicatated by a top 2 placing at one contest....... not that I agree with it.

Hi Dianne, I think that's because your gradings aren't taken over a 3 year average. So based on Dronfield 2007 - 2009 in 4th Section they had 2 years average + the 2nd this year but it wasnt enough to get them promoted. Had they secured the first position at Harrogate then there would have been an automatic promotion. See Brunel band above.

brasscrest
29.09.2009, 12:27
Hi Dianne, I think that's because your gradings aren't taken over a 3 year average. So based on Dronfield 2007 - 2009 in 4th Section they had 2 years average + the 2nd this year but it wasnt enough to get them promoted. Had they secured the first position at Harrogate then there would have been an automatic promotion. See Brunel band above.

True for promotions in Scotland [first two always go up, Appendix II(e) of the SBBA Rules], but not for relegations, where there is still averaging going on.

The SBBA rules can be found here (http://www.sbba.org.uk/download/SBBA_Contest_rules_20090501.pdf).

DaiEuph
30.09.2009, 19:07
Although this was their first year in Section 2, I can confirm that City of Cardiff had already won promotion to Section 1 as a result of winning the Welsh Area contest and the system of awarding average placings for previous years.........

maryellan
01.10.2009, 13:39
Phweee What a week for the West Of England!!!!
Just arrived back from Harrogate. Congratulations to St Breward Silver in winning the 4th Section and congratulations to Brunel Brass in winining the 3rd section. I listened to both these bands on the weekend and i was left with little doubt that they would get in the prizes. Both these bands have a mix of young and old (sorry) which can only be good for the region in the future.
I was lucky enough at the regionals to hear both these bands qualify so to hear them each play and win again was truely remarkable.
In March 2007 I was in the hall to listen to Brunel's 1st contest and was so impressed I have kept an interesting eye on their meteroric rise ever since. Each time I listen to them the sounds just get richer and richer and they play with such maturity that defies their years. I have just read that they have an 80 strong youth set up which bodes well for the future .
Here' hoping for their continued success. Well done Brunel Brass and St Brewards Silver.

Alyn James
01.10.2009, 15:10
Phweee What a week for the West Of England!!!!
Just arrived back from Harrogate.

Did you walk it? :)

maryellan
01.10.2009, 16:12
Yes ,well done especially off the dreaded no1 draw you must have been even more pleased, as often this is the kiss of death. Unfortunatley i missed your performance , left the hall for a wee!! while straight after the results for the 3rd section. Did i walk it no but Brunel and St Brewards did though.