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sparkling_quavers
24.02.2003, 20:55
Since we are on the predicting game:

Who do u think will get top place in the midlands regional in all the sections?

If anyone gets this right I will definately buy them a pint!

I reckon

Ch: Thoresby
1st: NCT
2nd: Shirley Band
3rd: Carlton Brass
4th: Bakewell Silver

Boneman
24.02.2003, 21:23
okay then here goes . . .

Ch. Jackfield (well I have to be loyal!)
1. Kibworth (superb band)
2. Shirley (I know someone with this name)
3. Wem (come on Rog!)
4. Wellington (my Dad is playing for them!)

Best of luck to everyone competing at Burton Town Hall!

stephen2001
24.02.2003, 23:50
Who I think will win:-

Ch: Desford
1st: Shirland
2nd: Shirebrook
3rd: Would love to be loyal but I reckon on Carlton
4th: Rushden

Who I would like to win

Ch: Thoresby (local to home)
1st: Hathern (local to uni)
2nd: Harworth (friend's play there)
3rd: Whitwell (my home band)
4th: Hathern B (again, local to uni!)

but as they say, it's not the winning, it's the taking part!

satchmo shaz
25.02.2003, 08:49
well for top section desford, thoresby or travelsphere have got to be up there
1st section kibworth or nct
not sure about 2nd section maybe blidworth
3rd carlton or shirland
and 4th bakewell matlock phoenix or long eaton (my band! :wink: )

Straightmute
25.02.2003, 11:27
Travelsphere
Derwent
Bilton
Shirland
Rushden

...but I'm not putting money on it!

D

Baldeagle
26.02.2003, 07:45
My choice is
Chmp Desford
1 NCT
2 Blidworth
3 Carlton
4 Bakewell

Di B
26.02.2003, 12:03
Hmmm...

Well my guesses are as follows....

Chmp: Travelsphere or Desford
1st: NCT or Kibworth
2nd: Shirley or Langley
3rd: Carlton or... Carlton(!)
4th: Bakewell, Matlock or Long Eaton (but this might be biased! lol!)

Thanks Shaz for popping us in your line up too.... we just both gotta go and beat Bakewell now! :D

Di xx
www.matlockband.co.uk

Roger Thorne
26.02.2003, 15:55
With the exception of the 4th Section, 4BarsRest have now completed their famous 'Dodgy Predictions' for the Midlands Areas.

makes interesting reading . . .

http://www.4barsrest.com/default.asp


:wink:

Boneman
26.02.2003, 23:36
Roger,

I see you are the 'Dark Horses', as for us they seem to be politely saying that we'll be lucky not to come last.

I can't imagine what makes them think that!

Roger Thorne
27.02.2003, 01:58
Hi Simon,

Dark Horses eh! . . .

I should think so with a mixture of young fillies, a few carthorses and one or two young studs.
Oh, and not forgetting the 'Old Grey' who always pulls them along! :cry:

I was surprised to read about Chris Lewis. He been brilliant since he took the helm at Jackfield. Its a pity he can't continue into the Championship Section. Have you got anybody in mind for the job yet?

I presumme he's still taking you on Sunday.

See you in Burton.


:wink:

Di B
27.02.2003, 10:36
Bum!

Well, it looks like 4br have Long Eaton in the spotlight for 1st in the fourth section!

Bit miffed we don't even get a mention tho! Then again, with our run outs at the areas in the third section you can see why!!! Funny, as we have a stronger band than ever this year but hopefully we can prove 'em wrong and build on the Association result we achieved! :)

How do 4br come up with their predictions I wonder? Do they base it on area results alone, or do they look at last years contests overall? Do they take into consideration any news they receive or grapevine gossip on the bands that have fell apart/improved significantly?

Does anyone know?!

Cheers

Di xx
www.matlockband.co.uk

satchmo shaz
27.02.2003, 11:45
dont know di, was just thinking the same as poor old thorntons have been struggling but 4br have tipped them 2nd place........ i think its because they've just come down from champ section

Baldeagle
27.02.2003, 12:45
dont know di, was just thinking the same as poor old thorntons have been struggling but 4br have tipped them 2nd place........ i think its because they've just come down from champ section


Me thinks the 4barsrest team were earing their chocolate at the time :lol:

Di B
27.02.2003, 13:38
dont know di, was just thinking the same as poor old thorntons have been struggling but 4br have tipped them 2nd place........ i think its because they've just come down from champ section

That was my thoughts, but they don't do that all the time or both Dronfield and Matlock would be in the top 6 in the fourth section!!! I assume they look at what section the band was in last year and their last couple of years performance only? I would just find it interesting to find out how the 'calculations' were done.

Oh, and as for the 'eating chocolate' comments... 'twould have been more like a beer training session pre contests! lol!

Di xx
www.matlockband.co.uk

rutty
27.02.2003, 13:53
3rd: Carlton or... Carlton(!)
4th: Bakewell, Matlock or Long Eaton (but this might be biased! lol!)


Carlton Brass - of course!

Oddly, I'm fancying Matlock of the fourth section having heard them in Leicester last year - I thought they were excellent. I'd also like to see Long Eaton do well after last years success.

Bakewell have got to be in the running though.

Di B
27.02.2003, 15:44
3rd: Carlton or... Carlton(!)
4th: Bakewell, Matlock or Long Eaton (but this might be biased! lol!)


Carlton Brass - of course!

Oddly, I'm fancying Matlock of the fourth section having heard them in Leicester last year - I thought they were excellent. I'd also like to see Long Eaton do well after last years success.

Bakewell have got to be in the running though.

Aww! Thanks me dear! :D Believe it or not, we have also strengthened the band since that contest too! (If you remember we played there with just 2 from row cornets!)

My personal wish would be for Matlock and Long Eaton to grab 1st and 2nd... but as I play with one and the other was my first ever band it is why I said I am biased! :)

Do hope you are right with your predictions rutty! Good luck to all at Carton too... its been a while since I came to help you out!

Di xx
www.matlockband.co.uk

HelterSkelter
27.02.2003, 15:57
Interesting that 4BR issue the following disclaimer regarding their predictions for the fourth section:

"The rest can take heart that if they come in the prize list they can put two good old fingers up at us and have a laugh at our lack of knowledge!"

Hmmm...twenty-five pairs of fingers from Matlock then, we hope! :lol:

Straightmute
27.02.2003, 16:42
Interesting that 4BR issue the following disclaimer regarding their predictions for the fourth section:

"The rest can take heart that if they come in the prize list they can put two good old fingers up at us and have a laugh at our lack of knowledge!"

Hmmm...twenty-five pairs of fingers from Matlock then, we hope! :lol:

4Bars Rest predictions have been the kiss of death for us! Iwan admits that they're dodgy - but I'm hoping and praying that he doesn't tip us this year...

D

Di B
27.02.2003, 17:42
Interesting that 4BR issue the following disclaimer regarding their predictions for the fourth section:

"The rest can take heart that if they come in the prize list they can put two good old fingers up at us and have a laugh at our lack of knowledge!"

Hmmm...twenty-five pairs of fingers from Matlock then, we hope! :lol:

Jeff! my main man! How ya doin? You can tell who are the accountants at our band.... we have a full band, so including you percussiony people who throw things round at the back :lol: that is 27 pairs of fingers!!!

We can but hope, practise, pray and drink of course just like every other band, but *if* we come in the top six I'll do a nice full in youtr face write up for 4barsrest! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Di xx
www.matlockband.co.uk

Brian
27.02.2003, 17:51
Good luck to all my friends in the Midland Area, I'll be thinking of you on the day..Two bands for each section
Champ...Desford..Ransomes
1st.........Kibworth..NCT
2nd........Shirley...Harworth
3rd.........Carlton..Shirland
4th.........Bakewell..Long Eaton
But it's only a "HOBBY" so enjoy.....Brian.

HelterSkelter
27.02.2003, 17:59
You can tell who are the accountants at our band.... we have a full band, so including you percussiony people who throw things round at the back :lol: that is 27 pairs of fingers!!!

Well you know I'm only a mere percussionist - of course I can't count! And what do you mean by "throw things around at the back" - it's all co-ordinated. Honest... Don't you know we've won prizes????

Baldeagle
28.02.2003, 00:22
Good luck to all my friends in the Midland Area, I'll be thinking of you on the day..Two bands for each section
Champ...Desford..Ransomes
1st.........Kibworth..NCT
2nd........Shirley...Harworth
3rd.........Carlton..Shirland
4th.........Bakewell..Long Eaton
But it's only a "HOBBY" so enjoy.....Brian.

Brian
Steve Mercs says have you still got the chair leg ? !!

Baldeagle
28.02.2003, 00:34
3rd: Carlton or... Carlton(!)
4th: Bakewell, Matlock or Long Eaton (but this might be biased! lol!)


Carlton Brass - of course!

Oddly, I'm fancying Matlock of the fourth section having heard them in Leicester last year - I thought they were excellent. I'd also like to see Long Eaton do well after last years success.

Bakewell have got to be in the running though.

Humm I take it that you were in your hole tonight as you we not at band :roll:

Brian
28.02.2003, 08:45
Good luck to all my friends in the Midland Area, I'll be thinking of you on the day..Two bands for each section
Champ...Desford..Ransomes
1st.........Kibworth..NCT
2nd........Shirley...Harworth
3rd.........Carlton..Shirland
4th.........Bakewell..Long Eaton
But it's only a "HOBBY" so enjoy.....Brian.

Brian
Steve Mercs says have you still got the chair leg ? !!

You can tell Merc'sy It is still being used to good effect in Thailand and Singapore where I also teach a little. Next month off to Japan to try it out there.. although it needed a repair job last year, tough little Korean. Brian

rutty
28.02.2003, 08:49
3rd: Carlton or... Carlton(!)
4th: Bakewell, Matlock or Long Eaton (but this might be biased! lol!)


Carlton Brass - of course!

Oddly, I'm fancying Matlock of the fourth section having heard them in Leicester last year - I thought they were excellent. I'd also like to see Long Eaton do well after last years success.

Bakewell have got to be in the running though.

Humm I take it that you were in your hole tonight as you we not at band :roll:

Not in my hole - trouble at work. :cry:

Di B
28.02.2003, 09:44
You can tell who are the accountants at our band.... we have a full band, so including you percussiony people who throw things round at the back :lol: that is 27 pairs of fingers!!!

Well you know I'm only a mere percussionist - of course I can't count! And what do you mean by "throw things around at the back" - it's all co-ordinated. Honest... Don't you know we've won prizes????

Yep you won a prize at the Association for 'making the most noise from throwing things around at the back of the band' prize didn't you? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Huh! Percussionists and egos! :wink:

Still not found out how 4barsrests comes up with their predictions though :?

Di xx
www.matlockband.co.uk

Wonky_Baton
28.02.2003, 13:36
I haven't got a clue about the results but as I am coming down on the 9th I hope there is a decent pint on offer!!! 8)

geordiecolin
28.02.2003, 14:02
What about poor old us??

We did beat Matlock in the 3rd section last year by 4 places and we had a fairly good result in 3rd section at Pontins in the Autumn as well. 4th place at NEMMBA with a below strength band and temporary conductor was a good indicator. I doubt we'll win it but we'll there or there abouts

Di B
28.02.2003, 14:52
What about poor old us??

We did beat Matlock in the 3rd section last year by 4 places and we had a fairly good result in 3rd section at Pontins in the Autumn as well. 4th place at NEMMBA with a below strength band and temporary conductor was a good indicator. I doubt we'll win it but we'll there or there abouts


Ummm.... you *are* in the 4 bars rest top 6 predictions......... which is what we were on about..... so I don't understand, what about poor old you?

*confused*

picju96
28.02.2003, 19:42
Dark Horses eh! . . .

Not to disappoint or anything but 4br predicted us as dark horses for pontins and we came 20th or something like that, 2nd from last anyway! We did play really badly though, we were just really nervous.

Julia

geordiecolin
01.03.2003, 00:54
I was referring to the predictions of everyone on this board not 4br.

Brian
01.03.2003, 11:10
Maybe 4br take into account the change of conductors bands have had..Sometimes it doesn't come together that quick...Changes in conductors over the last year ( off the top of my head)for..Ransomes..Travelsphere..NCT..Riddings..T horntons..Blidworth.. and thats just a few I can remember....Back to the Beach 8)

Baldeagle
02.03.2003, 00:09
3rd: Carlton or... Carlton(!)
4th: Bakewell, Matlock or Long Eaton (but this might be biased! lol!)


Carlton Brass - of course!

Oddly, I'm fancying Matlock of the fourth section having heard them in Leicester last year - I thought they were excellent. I'd also like to see Long Eaton do well after last years success.

Bakewell have got to be in the running though.

Aww! Thanks me dear! :D Believe it or not, we have also strengthened the band since that contest too! (If you remember we played there with just 2 from row cornets!)

My personal wish would be for Matlock and Long Eaton to grab 1st and 2nd... but as I play with one and the other was my first ever band it is why I said I am biased! :)

Do hope you are right with your predictions rutty! Good luck to all at Carton too... its been a while since I came to help you out!

Di xx
www.matlockband.co.uk

Di best of luck next week and you can come and help out here anytime, just watch out fer Rutty's Art Hole :P Come on Matlock get back inti the big time you can do it :)

Baldeagle
02.03.2003, 00:30
well for top section desford, thoresby or travelsphere have got to be up there
1st section kibworth or nct
not sure about 2nd section maybe blidworth
3rd carlton or shirland
and 4th bakewell matlock phoenix or long eaton (my band! :wink: )

Baldeagle
02.03.2003, 00:31
well for top section desford, thoresby or travelsphere have got to be up there
1st section kibworth or nct
not sure about 2nd section maybe blidworth
3rd carlton or shirland
and 4th bakewell matlock phoenix or long eaton (my band! :wink: )

For my money (which ain't much) I think that the 4th section this year is going to be close and should be very enjoyable :lol: , there are 4 bands in the running and it should be a tight contest :P All I can say is "The best of luck to all Bands"

Heather
02.03.2003, 01:33
If there's anyone from Riddings Band here, well done for qualifying for the finals.
My band may have beat you at Derby but you sounded very good to me at that contest.
Good Luck in the finals (unless we get there too!!!).

Di B
03.03.2003, 10:02
I was referring to the predictions of everyone on this board not 4br.

Ahh, well, I predicted who I thought would win, as did everyone else. Why not put your own thoughts down?

For the record, I don't underestimate Dronfield. I don't know the band that well, (although what some do to raise band funds at Pontins weekends scares me!!!) but Ray White is good in my opinion. I'd put you in the top six, yes, but for me, Bakewell and Long Eaton will have strong performances.

At the end of the day, any one of us could come last too! Its a case of what happens on the day that is important.

sparkling_quavers
03.03.2003, 12:31
I was referring to the predictions of everyone on this board not 4br.

Ahh, well, I predicted who I thought would win, as did everyone else. Why not put your own thoughts down?

For the record, I don't underestimate Dronfield. I don't know the band that well, (although what some do to raise band funds at Pontins weekends scares me!!!) but Ray White is good in my opinion. I'd put you in the top six, yes, but for me, Bakewell and Long Eaton will have strong performances.

At the end of the day, any one of us could come last too! Its a case of what happens on the day that is important.

In total agreement Di!

Anything could happen on that Stage. I know Dronfield well and they have a strong band with a very good band sound. It was unfortunate for them to be relegated this year but they did have some dissapointing results in the last year or so. In the past nerves have often got the better of some players and their performance on stage has not really reflected the quality of the band. BUT these things do happen! The rehearsals are sounding good. A new conductor and a band committed to working well together as a team...lets hope it is a good combination.

I have alot of respect for Long Eaton and Matlock bands they have worked hard and (like all of us) been through good and bad times! They too have committed members and the MD's have worked hard to develop players into the bands they have today.

Good luck and I will cya all on Sunday!

For the book my predictions are:

1. Bakewell
2. Long Eaton
3. Kirkby
4. Matlock/Dronfield

stephen2001
03.03.2003, 14:01
After the results all though last weekend, anything could happen!
I would rather gamble on the Lotto than stake a bet on the next few contests!!