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lmf
06.09.2008, 23:09
Hi,

I use Denis Wick 3, 4, 4B, and 4B Heavytop. I like Denis Wick mouthpieces very much. Now that Denis Wick Heritage Cornet mouthpieces are available, I would like to add a Denis Wick Heritage Cornet 4W to my collection. Has anyone used the Denis Wick Heritage mouthpieces and how do they compare? Thank you very much!

Best wishes,

Lloyd

brassneck
09.09.2008, 22:00
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b134/kingseamus/dw3181.jpg
As you can see, the design is completely different to the heavytop models and I would say has more in common with the defunkt kosicup models of years ago. Thinner walls produce different resonances under volume so you better try one out to see if it complements your playing style and instrument.

trumpetmike
09.09.2008, 23:04
I have swapped from a heavytop to a Heritage and it is AWESOME - fuller tone, more responsive - am never going back.

lmf
09.09.2008, 23:48
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b134/kingseamus/dw3181.jpg
As you can see, the design is completely different to the heavytop models and I would say has more in common with the defunkt kosicup models of years ago. Thinner walls produce different resonances under volume so you better try one out to see if it complements your playing style and instrument.

Brassneck,

Yes, you are correct. It is a mouthpiece to be tried before purchase. The premise sounds good, but performance issues have to be considered for the individual player.

Thanks,

Best wishes,

Lloyd

lmf
09.09.2008, 23:52
I have swapped from a heavytop to a Heritage and it is AWESOME - fuller tone, more responsive - am never going back.


TrumpetMike,

I like my heavytop 4B, so the Heritage does sound awesome. I think that I might be more comfortable with the 4W or 4BW, but my local dealer hasn't received those wide sizes in the USA yet. Hoping that if the wider rim becomes available, it will be more comfortable to play.

Thanks,

Best wishes,

Lloyd

Welsheuphoniummanjamie
10.09.2008, 12:56
I used the heritage trombone/euphonium mouthpiece, at first it felt amazing, really felt in control of the instrument, until bout 3/4months then i started having problems with my teeth, i thought this was just me, but after asking other players using the same mouthpiece they seemed to be getting similar problems! have any cornet players experience similar problems?

brassneck
10.09.2008, 13:29
Brassneck,

Yes, you are correct. It is a mouthpiece to be tried before purchase. The premise sounds good, but performance issues have to be considered for the individual player.

Thanks,

Best wishes,

Lloyd

Hi Lloyd, I bought the 2.5 CC tuba mouthpiece as it is based on the Helleberg concept ages ago when they first came out. I thought it would provide an alternative in sound and projection. However, coupled with my Maestro it produced too raw a sound and in that sense, resembled the Conn Helleberg model (both more suited to the BATs). Maybe the smaller sizes (sim. to VB 24AW or DW3L) may respond a little better.

sop 1
10.09.2008, 15:59
is ther a sop version? and anyone tried it?

lmf
10.09.2008, 17:47
I used the heritage trombone/euphonium mouthpiece, at first it felt amazing, really felt in control of the instrument, until bout 3/4months then i started having problems with my teeth, i thought this was just me, but after asking other players using the same mouthpiece they seemed to be getting similar problems! have any cornet players experience similar problems?

Hi, James,

The affect that such a mouthpiece change on one's teeth would definitely be a concern. It apparently affects the embrochure in ways not earlier known, or the player is changing his manner of playing which may be causing problems. It will be interesting to hear if other players are experiencing teeth problems going from their present mouthpiece to the Heritage.

Thanks for sharing, James!

Best wishes,

Lloyd

lmf
10.09.2008, 17:55
Hi Lloyd, I bought the 2.5 CC tuba mouthpiece as it is based on the Helleberg concept ages ago when they first came out. I thought it would provide an alternative in sound and projection. However, coupled with my Maestro it produced too raw a sound and in that sense, resembled the Conn Helleberg model (both more suited to the BATs). Maybe the smaller sizes (sim. to VB 24AW or DW3L) may respond a little better.


Hi, Brassneck,

I had heard as it relates to the cornet mouthpieces that some felt the sound was wonderful when changing to the Heritage line from the standard DW mouthpieces, while others found the tone worse. Certainly, the perception has to be an individual matter. It appears some found the change worthwhile, others didn't. Some are waiting to hear the results others are having? Players will have to 'try before they buy" to be sure. A mouthpiece for a tuba is no small investment financially. One cannot afford to be buying many mouthpieces for tuba.

Thanks for sharing, Brassneck!

Best wishes,

Lloyd

lmf
10.09.2008, 18:02
is ther a sop version? and anyone tried it?

Hi, Sop 1,

It does not appear that Denis Wick has provided the soprano cornet mouthpiece in the Heritage-style yet. It doesn't seem to be listed on its website.

http://www.deniswick.com/index.cfm

Maybe it is being planned for the future?

Thanks for sharing, Sop 1,

Best wishes,

Lloyd

sop 1
10.09.2008, 19:40
thanks for that :)

trumpetmike
11.09.2008, 10:54
is ther a sop version? and anyone tried it?

There has definitely been a prototype (or a few of them) made in the S size.
I tried one earlier this year and liked it (although I don't like the S size) - good response and a lovely tone, even though it was not my preferred size.

super_sop
07.12.2008, 16:00
Does anybody know of a supplier reasonably close to Shropshire were i?my nipper could try these mouthpieces.

Abigail lost her mp last week so we need to get another one, and would be interested in trying them

Bb Cornet 500
26.03.2009, 20:10
In Reply, there is a Size S heritage DW Mouthpiece. Go to www.windcraft.co.uk (http://www.windcraft.co.uk) then onto accessories, Cornet, Mouthpieces and scroll through to find it. They have it for 42.61. As soon as i get paid, i will be bying a Bb 4b one. Hope this helps!

Jasper
27.03.2009, 00:01
I've got a DW4 Heritage in my drawer that I barely used and put away again. Anybody wants to save a few quid off a new one drop me a PM

Mike

davel1975
16.05.2009, 09:23
I've been playing on a DW4 for a couple of years now (after having been on a 4B for ages) and am pretty comfortable with it but I'm wondering if I should try the Heritage version of the 4 or try a DW2 (normal/Heritage)?

Any advice,
Dave.

lmf
16.05.2009, 17:46
I've been playing on a DW4 for a couple of years now (after having been on a 4B for ages) and am pretty comfortable with it but I'm wondering if I should try the Heritage version of the 4 or try a DW2 (normal/Heritage)?

Any advice,
Dave.

Hi, Dave,

I play DW3. DW4, DW4B. I've not used DW2.

About a month ago I purchased a DW4B Heritage mouthpiece and I like it very much. I heard that some liked the change from the standard DW series to Heritage, others did not like the Heritage series. Some indicated the change took some "getting used to" before they felt comfortable with the Heritage mouthpiece. I didn't have any trouble switching to the DW4B Heritage or moving back and forth between the DW3 or DW4. I use the DW4B and DW4B Heavytop. I kept the DW4B Heavytop and gave my standard DW4B to a friend. I can move back and forth between the DW4 Heavytop and the Heritage very easily. Same with the DW3 and DW4. The Heritage seems to have the flexibilty as the descriptive information Denis Wick provides. I may one day buy a Heritage DW4 to replace my standard DW4, but for right now I'm pleased with the Heritage DW4B.

Have you played the DW2 before? Does it feel right for you as far as range? If so, the DW2 Heritage would probably provide equal (if not better) performance for you. You would probably need to determine if the DW2 is one you will play well before spending the extra money for the Heritage series in that size.

I don't know how much you have to pay for DW where you live? The Heritage DW4B that I purchased in the USA was $89.00 which included shipping. That's not a high price for a quality mouthpiece for us here. Other dealers in the USA sell the same item for more or less depending upon the dealer selected.

Best wishes , Dave!

Lloyd

Leyfy
18.05.2009, 16:19
I bought a Heritage 3B cornet mouthpiece last Monday, and after playing on it for a week, I am really pleased. I have noticed a lot less pressure when playing and I am getting a lovely sound out of it (for a change! LOL). It is also a lot more responsive when playing quietly, and I can get some real power out when playing loudly (and it stays in tune!), so I don't think I will be going back. I think like with all mouthpieces it is personal preference, so probably the only thing to do is to try it and see how you get on.

lmf
18.05.2009, 19:30
Kim,

You said:

"I think like with all mouthpieces it is personal preference, so probably the only thing to do is to try it and see how you get on."

A true observation! I've heard more good compliments about the Heritage series than "not so good' ones. However, I've heard that some do not like them at all and had gone back to their previous mouthpiece(s).

The Heritage series works for some and not for others and/or others like them and others don't.

Best wishes,

Lloyd

MoominDave
28.05.2009, 11:51
Somebody told me the other day that the Heritage range for cornet had had their insides redesigned as well as their outsides - can anyone confirm this? My impression from the start was that the insides had not been changed for any of the mouthpieces throughout the range of instruments.

I suspect strongly that this would make a much bigger difference to their performance than any adjustments of external mass distribution.

trumpetmike
29.05.2009, 12:18
Somebody told me the other day that the Heritage range for cornet had had their insides redesigned as well as their outsides - can anyone confirm this? My impression from the start was that the insides had not been changed for any of the mouthpieces throughout the range of instruments.

I suspect strongly that this would make a much bigger difference to their performance than any adjustments of external mass distribution.

To the best of my knowledge (being someone who worked with many of the prototypes throughout the process of these mouthpieces coming into existence) they are the same.

MoominDave
29.05.2009, 12:21
Thanks Mike. The suggestion seemed a bit strange to me.

its_jon
01.06.2009, 14:52
I tried a H4 when they came out..... I was using a DW4 at the time.

I got to the shop having reserved it over the phone.

Really did not like the feedback I was getting from it (on a 928 )

I left the shop with a Yamaha David King.

Don't assume that a DWH4 will be very similar to a DW4 or equivalents. Of course the internal diminsions and rims are.... however the sound and feedback is very different. It actually felt like a different cornet all together for me !

try before you buy. !