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sale
19.06.2007, 11:20
I just want to see what people think about families in banding (eg. Mums, Dads and Kids) i am in this catagory and wondered wat people feel about families in a band, have you got any at your band and what you think

Thanks

Matt sale

Lawrencediana
19.06.2007, 12:26
We have a fairly incestuous feel to our band not only are there three family groups but those not in the families are going out with each other. This makes for a fairly scary time as a conductor. One wrong word and you can upset the whole band. The upside is that they all pull together and you get nearly full band practices.

sale
19.06.2007, 12:29
yea i kno what you mean if you loose one player from the family yo could loose them all (or relocation or somthing likethat)

thanks anyway

Baritonedeaf
19.06.2007, 15:47
Families in bands are great - A great many couples play in bands together.

Bass Trumpet
19.06.2007, 16:12
When my Dad re-started Manea Silver Band in the early eighties, they would have been hard-pushed without the Wilsons! He conducted, I played Solo Horn, my Mum played trombone and my Sister played Euphonium. A few years later, when my Dad retired from conducting, the whole trombone section was me, my Dad and my Mum!

I think banding is a very family-oriented pursuit and many bands would struggle without whole familes in them. Further up the banding spectrum, the Childs family have been very important in the banding world over the past 20 years or so!

EIBB_Ray
19.06.2007, 17:06
We currently have one husband/wife pair in the band and one father/son pair. The good part is that you don't end up with as many conflicts about schedule (e.g. if my wife wants me to do something on a given day and there's a band conflict, it can be an issue.) The down side is when you lose one you lose them both usually.

Chunky
19.06.2007, 17:33
Although not all family we have
Euph married to percussionist
Flugel married to Solo Eb Bass
Principal Cornet married to Eb Bass
1st Horn and MD living together
1st horn & 2nd Baritone Daughter & Father
Solo Euph & 1st Baritone living together
Shandy Lee living with himself in a dream world full of ladies! :wink:

Bungle
19.06.2007, 17:35
Families are good, my daughter plays in the same band, but problems can arise when a familly dominates a committee. I know of one band that in its' constitution specifies that no more than one member of a family can be on the committee.

Also when a family moves away it is a bigger problem.

Currently posting from Hiedelberg, Germany. German keyboards are a right päin.

rachelbaritone
19.06.2007, 17:40
Although not all family we have
Euph married to percussionist
Flugel married to Solo Eb Bass
Principal Cornet married to Eb Bass
1st Horn and MD living together
1st horn & 2nd Baritone Daughter & Father
Solo Euph & 1st Baritone living together
Shandy Lee living with himself in a dream world full of ladies! :wink:

Grief, never really thought about it in a list like that. Think of the wife-swapping potential ....... or maybe not!!!!;)

hellyfrost
19.06.2007, 17:44
Although not all family we have
Euph married to percussionist
Flugel married to Solo Eb Bass
Principal Cornet married to Eb Bass
1st Horn and MD living together
1st horn & 2nd Baritone Daughter & Father
Solo Euph & 1st Baritone living together
Shandy Lee living with himself in a dream world full of ladies! :wink:

My head hurts now :-?

Chunky
19.06.2007, 17:49
Think of the wife-swapping potential ....... or maybe not!!!!;)

OMG!!!! :eek: Mind you I have had less bands than wives!!!!

Bobbi's girl
19.06.2007, 19:33
myself, hubbie, son & daughter plus brother-in-law all play at Dodworth; my father-in-law also used to play. our conductor's sister plays horn, husband & wife team on flugel & baritone,BBb player's wife is librarian, 1st horn player's dad is on committee & also plays when we need someone on baritone/Eb.........not many players left who aren't related in some way!

Tracey
19.06.2007, 22:32
In Old Silkstone we have :-
principle cornet lives with 1st horn
flugel lives with solo euph
solo horn married to 3rd cornet and daughter plays 3rd cornet
3rd man down's son plays rep with dodworth
percussion players are brothers when 1 comes back from working away
and myself on back row married to BBb player who is conductor of Old Silkstone B Band and daughter plays baritone in B band

Can make life very complicated to say the least

Tracey
19.06.2007, 22:44
Oh and in the B band

father and daughter conductor and baritone
father and daughter both play cornet
father and daughter play cornet and horn
brother and sister play euph and cornet
mum and son play baritone and bass
mum and daughter play baritone and horn
husband and wife play bass and cornet

PeterBale
20.06.2007, 00:31
At Hadleigh we have:

Father bandmaster & son solo cornet
Father Principal Cornet & son 1st cornet
Mother baritone & daughter solo horn
Father solo horn, mother trombone & son trombone
Grandfather euphoium, son bass trombone, grandson euphonium
Father EEb bass & son solo cornet
Father BBb bass & son percussion

ekimmort
20.06.2007, 00:36
We have Father and two daughters,
Father, son and daughter,
two sisters

DMBabe
20.06.2007, 06:14
Our band was struggling for a percussionist, so I attached myself to an oboe player who had (rightfully) got sickened by the wind band thing and who'd played percussion at school and really missed it, and made him feel like a brass band widower right from the off! I took him to all our gigs, had him signed for the band within 3 months, he was converted to our ways, so I married him! 8 years he's been there now and still gets excited about contests! Downside is if I don't help him with all his gear he takes the pure huff and I have to listen to him moan about how he has to play several instruments when I've only got one to worry about?:confused:

So if your band is short of players, recruit by offering people the pick of your fine young singletons! Bonus all round!:woo :clap:

cornetsquint
20.06.2007, 10:54
in our band;
Eb Bass son plays principal cornet who is married to Solo baritone
other Eb bass son plays 2nd trombone and brothher plays solo cornet
Bb Bass married to 3rd cornet and thier son plays 2nd Euph
same 3rd cornet sister plays trombone and she is married to bass trom
2nd man down is married to the percussionist

Which can get very confusing!!

Dave_the_Flugel
20.06.2007, 11:27
Our MD is married to our 2nd trombone player, who happens to be my mum and his niece is our 2nd horn player.
Then there's my cousin on percussion.
There's our solo horn player married to our first horn player, with their 3 sons all in the band on eb bass, percussion and 3rd cornet.
Then theres our 1st trombone player married to our 2nd baritone player and their daughter is our principal cornet (and my girlfriend)!
There's also our other Eb Bass player who is married to our rep's sister (making our eb bass/rep, brother&sister in law)

It can be quite confusing at times but it's good fun and we all get on (most of the time :D )

Bass Trumpet
20.06.2007, 11:42
So who plays the banjo?;)

Dave_the_Flugel
20.06.2007, 11:48
So who plays the banjo?;)

Beverley Hill - She's married to Billy :p

davidquinlan
20.06.2007, 12:34
I grew up in band... (well, got older, I've never really grown up!)

http://www.cityofwaterfordbrass.com/

My dad was (still is) band trainer, taught me to play (so it's his fault!!!)...
My older sister played (and now conducts).. both my younger brother and sisters also play(ed) with the band.
My mum was known as a "brass widow", left alone when we all disappeared off to gigs etc... :)
At the time there were other families in the band too.

There were family's involved in the band I moved to on the Isle of Man too.

When all is good, you have loyal members, but if you fall out with one family member, an entire family could leave, leaving you with empty chairs.

I've seen this at both bands... hmmm.. maybe it was my fault...

2nd man down
20.06.2007, 13:40
We currently have
Principal cornet partnered with Solo Horn,
Soprano married to 3rd Cornet,
2nd Cornet partnered with Solo Baritone,
Conductor partnered with temporary (not sure for how much longer) 2nd Baritone,
2nd Cornet brother of 2nd Euphonium,
Solo Trombone father of gimp on the timp,
Conductor (gets around a bit don't he?) brother of Bass Trombone,
2nd Trombone partnered with EbBass,
and
Cornet Sweeper (and what a star he is too) partnered with Front Row Cornet.

Some more will probably come to me in time.

scotchgirl
20.06.2007, 14:58
We have...

Principal cornet married to solo horn
Soprano cornet partners with solo baritone
Rep cornet married to second cornet
Solo euph partners with 1st horn
2nd horn married to Bb Bass
3rd cornet engaged to flugel horn
2nd baritone (me) married to percussionist
3rd cornet and 2nd horn are brother and sister

Lawrencediana
20.06.2007, 16:16
This is starting to remind me of Monty Python's 4 yorkshiremen (Luxury)!!!!!

This is our list of family

Principal cornet married to 2nd Euphonium whose son plays percussion
Flugal Horn Married to 2nd Cornet whose daughter plays 2nd cornet (who is going out with EEb Bass) and son on Bass Trombone
Father Plays solo cornet, daughter third cornet who is engaged to 1st Horn.
Solo Cornet lives with Soprano player.
Solo horn lives with Kit Player
Brother in laws play 1st & 2nd Baritone

chris turner
20.06.2007, 20:43
In our band the Flugel Player is married to the Solo Euph Player whose Dad Conducts and sister plays Cornet.
2nd man down is married to first horn
Solo Trombone is married to 1st Baritone
3rd cornet about to marry 2nd horn
Sop player married to cornet player
2nd Trombone married to percussionist

cornetgirl
20.06.2007, 20:53
At Cottingham we have:

Principal cornet and 2nd man getting married this August
Rep married to flugel (personally I pity the poor guy ;-) )
2nd cornet married to solo euph and their daughter occasionally hits timps
1st horn married to band President.

Noone so far has admitted to being related to either the MD or the trombone section... yet...

Rach x

Baritonedeaf
21.06.2007, 00:00
Solo Cornet married to Solo Horn
Solo Cornet married to Solo Baritone
2nd Cornet married to Eb Bass
Solo Eup engaged to soon to be Eb Bass player
2nd Baritone lives with 2nd Trombone

Not as bad as my other band...

2nd Trom married to 1st Horn
Solo Cornet married to 2nd Baritone
Solo Cornet married to Solo Baritone (same people as above - me!)
Solo Horn married to Bass Trom
Bb Bass dad of Euph and Conductor
Solo Euph 1 and Rep brother and sister
Solo Euph 2 and Bass Trom brothers
1st Horn and 2nd Bari sisters (Eb Bass is there brother too...)
Relationships - too many to list. And that is a youth band!

Mr_Euniverse
21.06.2007, 13:16
Although not all family we have
Euph married to percussionist
Flugel married to Solo Eb Bass
Principal Cornet married to Eb Bass
1st Horn and MD living together
1st horn & 2nd Baritone Daughter & Father
Solo Euph & 1st Baritone living together
Shandy Lee living with himself in a dream world full of ladies! :wink:

Only 6 couples!!!!? I think we can just about beat that!!


Solo euph married to 2nd Bari (1 child)
1st Bari married to Flugel (1 child + 1 on the way)
3rd man down married to 3rd cornet (1 child)
4th man down married to 2nd cornet
Principal cornet married to percussionist (1 child)
Eb Bass married to 3rd cornet (2 children)
Percussionist married to 2nd horn
1st horn married to ex-2nd horn (2 children)
Repiano marrying Percussionist in September (God another Stag weekend!!)Many other members living in a dream full of ladies!! (Namely 1st and 2nd Trom, Eb Bass, however not at the same time!)

Surpisingly there are still some singletons in the band, waiting for Mr or Miss Right to join!!!!

So if anyone out there wants to find their solemate (providing they play Eb Bass, cornet or Baritone (as one is leaving soon) then look no further!!
Come to Tongwynlais dating agency band!!!

2nd man down
21.06.2007, 13:19
Only 6 couples!!!!? I think we can just about beat that!!

Solo euph married to 2nd Bari (1 child)
1st Bari married to Flugel (1 child + 1 on the way)
3rd man down married to 3rd cornet (1 child)
4th man down married to 2nd cornet
Principal cornet married to percussionist (1 child)
Eb Bass married to 3rd cornet (2 children)
Percussionist married to 2nd horn
1st horn married to ex-2nd horn (2 children)
Repiano marrying Percussionist in September (God another Stag weekend!!)Many other members living in a dream full of ladies!! (Namely 1st and 2nd Trom, Eb Bass, however not at the same time!)

Surpisingly there are still some singletons in the band, waiting for Mr or Miss Right to join!!!!

So if anyone out there wants to find their solemate (providing they play Eb Bass, cornet or Baritone (as one is leaving soon) then look no further!!
Come to Tongwynlais dating agency band!!!

And you play for a Temperance Band?!?!?? Not much temperance going on there is there?!?!? :biggrin:
(p.s. I know temperance is specific to the abstenance from alcohol, but go with me here, it was good for the comic effect!)

tubafran
21.06.2007, 13:24
At BBSBB its

Rep married to 3rd Cornet
Bass trom goes out with 2nd horn
2nd cornet daughter of 2nd trom
Solo cornet sister of 3rd horn

At KSB its

1st trom brother of 2nd cornet
2nd trom lives with bass trom
1st horn mother of solo horn and 2nd baritone
solo horn brother of 2nd baritone (as above)
rep mother of 3rd cornet
conductor goes out with front row cornet

Chunky
21.06.2007, 13:56
Only 6 couples!!!!? I think we can just about beat that!!



Those are the official ones, I have reason to belive there maybe some others :wink:

englishgill
21.06.2007, 14:44
Principal cornet married to Eb bass
Euphonium married to conductor
2nd Euph brother of 2nd horn
solo horn married to shed builder
flugel married to sop
1st baritone married to 2nd baritone

rest of us are just married to the band!

SuperMosh
21.06.2007, 15:24
I am not sure what the demographic of Gresley is to be honest. We might ALL be related - years ago the good people of the East Midlands married their cousins :biggrin:

Chunky
21.06.2007, 16:03
I am not sure what the demographic of Gresley is to be honest. We might ALL be related - years ago the good people of the East Midlands married their cousins :biggrin:

In which case Gresley is probably twinned and married to Swaffham in Norfolk :biggrin:

tam-tam2
22.06.2007, 10:27
Ok, I will have a bash!!
At Lympstone:

Soprano married to 2nd Euphonium
Solo Horn married to 2nd Cornet, daughter plays 2nd Trombone
Solo EEb Bass and Solo Trombone - father and son
Solo Cornet and Solo Barione living together.

At Rogerstone:

Solo Horn and Solo Euph - married.
1st Horn and Repiano - 2 sisters.
2nd Trombone and EEb Bass and Solo Cornet - father and 2 sons.
Bass Trombone and 2nd Baritone - father and daughter.

hvb_shizzle
22.06.2007, 11:36
myself, hubbie, son & daughter plus brother-in-law all play at Dodworth; my father-in-law also used to play. our conductor's sister plays horn, husband & wife team on flugel & baritone,BBb player's wife is librarian, 1st horn player's dad is on committee & also plays when we need someone on baritone/Eb.........not many players left who aren't related in some way!


But Alison isn't thats Barnsley in general, everyones abit related!;)

well in Horbury band
the solo trombone lives with the solo horn
the solo Baritone ( has two siblings in the youth band ) goes out with 1st Euph
the flugel player goes out with the Eb Bass, who is the brother to a solo cornet player.
2nd man down is father to the rep. cornet, who goes out with the percussionist
and a 2nd and 3rd cornet are brother and sister.
also 1st horn and 2nd Baritone are brothers and also used to be married to the flugel player and principle cornet at the time)

over the years we've had many famillies within the band and people are right, if someone say's the wrong thing your band can be wiped out in a heartbeat.

hvb_shizzle
22.06.2007, 11:39
ooo i forgot some but i can't put them on because it's a secret!

Chunky
22.06.2007, 11:45
ooo i forgot some but i can't put them on because it's a secret!

Just tell us on tMp. Since when has a secret been spoilt or a rumour ever been spread on here ;)

tinytimp
22.06.2007, 14:22
At Burry Port we've got the John dynasty making up about half the band -

2 brothers on BBb bass
Brother no.1 has 1 son on Eb bass, 1 on solo euph
Brother no.2 has 1 son on 1st bari, the other front row (not playing any more)

As well as
Trom married to percussionist, son and daughter on trom and perc respectively
2nd euph married to 3rd cornet
Principal and rep are brothers
2 brothers on front row
brothers on trom and Eb bass

I suppose it cuts down on family arguments if everybody goes to band! Although in situations like this you do run the risk of losing more than one player if one of a couple/family is offended or upset. I think most of our families would consider the good of the band first, but it's always difficult to tell unless you're actually put in that situation.

Pythagoras
22.06.2007, 15:22
Not as much as some bands at Dronfield
2nd Horn and EEbBass married
One of the 2nd Baris is mother of a front row and a 3rd cornet
Another 2nd horn is mother of 2nd Euph
Another 2nd Horn (Yes, we have loads) is mother of solo horn
Top man and 2nd cornet a couple
Bari/Perc player is married to Trom player.

Think that's it.

bignige
22.06.2007, 20:25
We have

Sop married to 2nd euph and their sons play bass and perc
Euph's brother on baritone
Mother on trom whose sons play bass trom and perc
Mother on 2nd horn whose daughter is solo horn
Third cornet married to a horn and their sons play baritone and cornet whilst daughter plays in our training band
Two solo cornets are partners
Solo euph and third cornet getting married in August
Mum on third cornet whose daughters play in the training (& hubby plays for another local band)
Mum on second cornet with a son in the training band

That's it for the moment!

bbg
24.06.2007, 00:05
Might as well throuw in the Perthshire tuppenceworth.....

Principal cornet, second man down and principal euph are brothers - their Dad is the MD; principal euph is married to flugel player whose brother plays trombone.
Repiano / 2nd horn are sisters
2nd cornet / percussion - father and son
Solo horn / 2nd bari - cousins

Another back row cornet players' mother played until recently, a brother and sister have also just moved on, and practically the whole non-playing committee members are relatives of players.

sale
24.06.2007, 00:06
so i guess u cud say that there wud hardly be any banding without families! ha ha

fhnpt
24.06.2007, 11:34
well in Horbury band
the solo trombone lives with the solo horn
the solo Baritone ( has two siblings in the youth band ) goes out with 1st Euph
the flugel player goes out with the Eb Bass, who is the brother to a solo cornet player.
2nd man down is father to the rep. cornet, who goes out with the percussionist
and a 2nd and 3rd cornet are brother and sister.
also 1st horn and 2nd Baritone are brothers and also used to be married to the flugel player and principle cornet at the time)

over the years we've had many famillies within the band and people are right, if someone say's the wrong thing your band can be wiped out in a heartbeat.[/quote]

Solo horns sister plays solo cornet aswell, but then I think thats it for us!

drummergurl's mummy
24.06.2007, 21:41
Well
My family are less incestuous.
I play baritone with Rainford
My other half plays cornet for Skem
Son plays for pemberton
daughter for Freckleton

We have never had more than 2 of us in the same band!

$hytalk
24.06.2007, 22:19
Here is Greenalls.

bass trombone married to assistant principle cornet,(Jim & Sandra Ball)
Their daughter, percussionist, married to Bflat bass ,(Ruth Breen, Nee Ball & Shaun Breen)
Their daughter, 3rd cornet, married to tutti solo cornet,( Louise Bousefield, Nee Ball, & Howard Bousefield)
Their son, principle cornet, married to repiano cornet,(James Ball & Leanne Ball, Nee Flaherty)
Their daughter, Alice Ball, learning tenor horn.

2nd horn is engaged to 2nd euph.(getting wed in august)(Sarah Owen & Andy Watkins)
2nd horn and 3rd cornet are sisters.(Sarah & Jenny Owen)

M.D. is married to solo horn.(john & joane Ludden)
2nd trombone and tutti solo cornet are brothers.(Dave & Tommy Lyon)

Chunky
28.06.2007, 11:49
Although not all family we have
Euph married to percussionist
Flugel married to Solo Eb Bass
Principal Cornet married to Eb Bass
1st Horn and MD living together
1st horn & 2nd Baritone Daughter & Father
Solo Euph & 1st Baritone living together
Shandy Lee living with himself in a dream world full of ladies! :wink:

Can now add to the list 2nd Man Down and 2nd horn!!!!

Shandy Lee has woken from his dream! ;)

Mark Bowater
28.06.2007, 14:07
In our band the Flugel Player is married to the Solo Euph Player whose Dad Conducts and sister plays Cornet.
2nd man down is married to first horn
Solo Trombone is married to 1st Baritone
3rd cornet about to marry 2nd horn
Sop player married to cornet player
2nd Trombone married to percussionist

MMMmm now which band might that be then ????!!!

beccawheeze2
12.07.2007, 13:21
We've had a fair few family groups in Cubbington, some have left others have joined.
We've had two marriages this year our sop and 3rd man down married last month, I married our 1st euph in feb.
My parents are our groupies/ticket sellers/tea makers and so on.
Our MD and one BBb bass player are brothers, 3rd coenet and 4th man down are engaged, 2nd trombone, lead baritone and 4th perc are father, daughter and mother respectively.Two of our percussionists are fathre and son.
It has helped give our band a welcoming feel and has created a great sense of team. It does have a bit of an imact when they all go on holiday though!
There aren't many other hobbies that can be enjoyed by the whole family.

MrsDoyle
13.09.2009, 15:05
I know this thread's been lying dormant for a good while, but I thought I'd reignite the discussion. What prompted me to pass comment was this:


problems can arise when a familly dominates a committee. I know of one band that in its' constitution specifies that no more than one member of a family can be on the committee.

I've seen this happen and it's not pretty - often it just ends up with members of the family getting their way and other players' ideas being ignored.

What are your views on committees in the same family?

Getzonica
13.09.2009, 15:10
In my band the mds wife is also in the commity but that seems to work fine as she has very good ideas and so do the rest of the committy so in this instance it's ok.

MrsDoyle
13.09.2009, 15:19
I personally think there should be a clause in its constitution ensuring no more than 1 member of a family can be on a committee.

Getzonica
13.09.2009, 15:30
I see where you're coming from but I don't that is always the problem. As long as the committee organise things that have the band's best interests at heart so to speak and listen to band members everything should work and hopefully everyone will be happy

08cbinns
13.09.2009, 22:22
My family are all in banding,
Myslef, i play trombone
Dad, plays trombone and conducts
Mum, plays flute and cornet
Sister, plays tenor horn
Grandpa, playED tenor horn for Brighouse and Rochdale, he also played on top of the pops
Great Uncle, played kit for Brighouse and Rochdale, he also played the floral dance.

Getzonica
13.09.2009, 22:30
I've been trying to get my family to join me in the banding world.....so far only my mum has joined me - guess she got fed up of being a taxi driver!

I've known lots of families where serveral of them are in bands and I think it's good

still learnin
13.09.2009, 23:17
We currently have one husband/wife pair in the band and one father/son pair. The good part is that you don't end up with as many conflicts about schedule (e.g. if my wife wants me to do something on a given day and there's a band conflict, it can be an issue.) The down side is when you lose one you lose them both usually.

The scheduling conflict and commitment issue can be a big one if your other half, or other family members, don't share your passion for banding. Having several families/couples in a band can make the issue worse for those who struggle to achieve the correct work v home life v band mix. E.g. A band job is a family day out if husband, wife kids and great aunt Maud are all involved, if that family is also on the committee it can lead to more jobs being taken on because it's what they enjoy doing together. That in turn can cause greater issues for those who have other priorities to juggle!

I quite envy those who have their family in the band with them, my lot would rather stick needles in their eyes than listen to most brass band music!!