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super_sop
29.10.2003, 19:15
Thouyght of this while looking at the thread on what makes a good practice sesion.

What time of day do you practice?

Unfortunately i have a problem with my neighbors (sp!) and they dont like me practicing, it doesnt matter what time of day it is!.

its seems ok for them to be runing and shouing outside ot 6'oclock in the morning, but i cant make a noise at what |I term as a sensible time(5 to 6'oclock in the evening).

is there a law stating what time noise should be kept to a minimum?

I dont have a practice mute, but do use an old cup mute with the cup palced close to the bell to reduce the noise. But should i have to at that time of the evening?

any help would be gratefully recieved

craig

neiltwist
29.10.2003, 20:20
any help would be gratefully recieved

craig

depends how much you want to upset them! ;)

super_sop
29.10.2003, 20:22
Lol im trying my best not to!!

its a pain in the rear having to have a mute in all the while.

T-Horn
30.10.2003, 01:50
legally they don't have a leg to stand on! as long as you practice at a reasonable hour and obviously NOT blow ur rockers off then it's fine.
have u spoken to ur neighbours about this situation to try and come to some sort of agreement.
Another solution is if you don't live too far from the band room, then see if you can have a set of keys to practice. I know quite a few people who have this agreement with their bands.!!
Best of luck, Hope it works out!
:)

ploughboy
30.10.2003, 08:16
I Know you're not allowed to beep your car horn between 11pm and 7am, that might help!

When we were growing up my brother and me played cornet/trombone/piano(twice) and percussion so there was always lots of noise, we both did our brass playing with a cup mute with a duster in it, that really keeps the noise down and builds the sound and stamina too!

PeterBale
30.10.2003, 08:49
We're quite fortunate with our neighbours, who have never objected to the sounds of practice - one even told my son he liked to hear him playing his drum kit as he used to play himself in the past!

Having said that, most of my practising is done at the weekends, and I would hesitate to play too early in the morning or after 8pm. When I've wanted to do some louder bass playing I have generally gone down to the hall and found some space there!

weuphl
30.10.2003, 08:57
I believe that legally you are allowed to make 'reasonable' noise between 7 am and 11 pm with your neighbours having no recourse to complain to authorities. I understand you not wanting to upset them however.

I invested in a Silent Brass system but still don't attempt to practice after 9pm until I move into my detached house!!

lynchie
30.10.2003, 09:14
I think after 10 they can complain about prolonged noise (I used to do quintet practices in my house, so had to check these things out) but before then you can do pretty much what you like. Practicing at 5/6 pm should be fine (that's when I practice!!) so if you feel like it you can tell them where they can stick their moaning and complaining... :D

Big Fella
30.10.2003, 10:07
It may be easier just to speak to the people next door..
I had some new people move in, a couple of months ago, once the obligatory introductions were over and done with, we came to a nice solution..

I can practise anytime I want to, upto 7.30 at night and they are happy with that...

Talking to people first, is always better than using fists & feet..

SammyT
30.10.2003, 10:24
Well those who know me will be amazed to know that I actually practised the other day :oops: :shock: :shock:
When our neighbours moved in they kept us awake till the early hours of various days singing (well i'll describe it as that at a push!) karaokee!
After us complaining and the people on the other side of the road!!!!!!!! :!: they finally stopped doing it after 11.30ish!
So I have no quarms in practicing at any time of the day (well when I do it!) and have done it occassionaly quite early in the moring :twisted:

With nice neighbours I would talk to them and sort out an earliest and latest time. With your neighbours craig I don't know, as long as you do it at a reasonable time they shoud just accept it!

super_sop
30.10.2003, 18:25
Thanks for your help everyone, i have spoken to my neighbours, about the noise they were making some time ago, and this doesnt seem to have helped the situation.

It all ended in a slanging match over the fence, which hasnt helped my siuation now. it doesnt seem to matter what time i do it at alway seems to anoy them. all this is a far cry form when they 1st moved in and i told them i was a musician. they seemed quite happy for me to practice. i just think its them tryin to be a pain.

From what people have said on here and at work i think ill just carry on as i am. and maybe bye myself a proper practice mute

michellegarbutt
31.10.2003, 08:48
I had a similar problem when practising at my mums. Her neighbour actually called the council to complain so enviromental health came out to investigate. The gentleman who called laughed his head off when he came and found out what I was doing. He has told me legally I can practice and make as much noise as I like between 8am and 10pm.

Funny enough I can't practice at home as Chewytuba and I end up criticising each other ending off in a huge fight

lynchie
31.10.2003, 09:36
Well if they're not prepared to apologise for the noise they made, you could always just not buy a practice mute and play a nice bit of mahler right up until 10pm...

leisa
31.10.2003, 11:28
my neighbours are luvin it!!!! there top though!! we live in a detached house so it isnt really that bad but they can still hear as i have a separate music room which is right next to their wall but even acroos the road say they can hear but they said they enjoy it!!!

i try not to practise after 10 at night cos theres a young child across the road and it would be kind of unfAir on them! but there have been times when ive had to practise quite early in the mornin but ive never had a complaint!!

lynchie
31.10.2003, 11:41
I used to have neighbours like that... one old lady even asked why I'd stopped playing for a few days when she saw me walking the dog! It's much easier to get on with the neighbours if they appreciate quality music!


...well maybe quality's a bit of an exaggeration, more competent...


...well, i suppose competent might be being a bit too kind...


well, they appreciated whatever it was I was playing! :D

neiltwist
31.10.2003, 11:51
my neighbours say they enjoy it, but I don't know if they do or not! I'll keep practicing at decent hours, and they'll keep saying they like it, so no problem, I guess I'm very lucky!

i'm not a manc!
31.10.2003, 13:55
i thaught i'd practice the other day to annoy may housemates :twisted: (usually try to do it when their out or with a mute). trouble was they actually sed they enjoyed it and found it "theraputic" :cry: - flippin nutters

i am suffering deep phschological trauma as a result

Seedhouse
31.10.2003, 19:02
Well done Sam! :wink:

My neighbours don't mind me practicing, they say it's sounding really well at the moment so it gives me a boost of confidence to practice even more!

I think that neighbours should allow people to practice. You are entitled to do what you like in your own home, I understand that it can be difficult in houses that are joined (can't remember the term- only remember detatched and semi- detatched :? )
If they have a problem then discuss with them the best time/ why they have a problem with it.
If they are persistently complaining put them on Britain's worst neighbours on Channel 3! :lol: Only joking!

neiltwist
01.11.2003, 01:37
I understand that it can be difficult in houses that are joined (can't remember the term- only remember detatched and semi- detatched :? )

terraced?

Seedhouse
01.11.2003, 12:34
Yup probs! :lol:

Hell's_Trombone
13.07.2004, 21:49
I don't really practise much but when i do its whenever I fancy! It's not my problem if the neighbours don't like it! I've got a drum kit too so that makes them even happier! I've got a practise mute and it really does keep the noise down and i've found i can play quite a bit louder since i've been using it too.

Big Twigge
13.07.2004, 22:02
I'm playing now....my neighbours are a field away and are on the greater side of three quarters aged ~their hearing isn't what it used to be hehe :wink:

Brian Kelly
13.07.2004, 22:26
I have very good neighbours with whom I get on really well, so I try and keep it that way. I always practice with either my practice mute or my Yamaha Silent Brass mute, usually no later than 9pm, very rarely until 9.30, but no later. I've lived in my current house (semi - detached) for 10 years now, with no complaints.

sparkling_quavers
13.07.2004, 22:43
Unfortunately i have a problem with my neighbors (sp!) and they dont like me practicing, it doesnt matter what time of day it is!

I had this problem when I was in my final year at Uni. I lived in a shared house and we had a woman who lived next door who complained if she heard ANY noise at all. It ended up getting into quite a bad situation with her. When we first moved in I was practicing (with a mute in) at about 2pm in the afternoon and she jsut started banging on the wall and cursing! I thought it was very rude. I then found out she worked shifts and went around prepared to have a polite conversation with her about what sort of times me (and my other housemate who played brass as well) could practice that wouldn't keep her awake. She just went ballastic!!! :shock: I was perfectly prepared to be more than reasonable about things, but when she spoke to me like that I didn't see why I should to put myself out to help her and her work patterns. Perhaps she had had years of parties all night (with living in a student area) and now any little noise just sent her over the edge :? What I really didn't understand was we were seriously very quiet for a student house. When the next set of people came around to look at the house when we were leaving I remember thinking 'now she will know what real noise is' :lol:

Dave Euph
14.07.2004, 01:02
Well, a couple of years ago my old neighbour (coincidence? :)) threatened me and my parents for the noise making ... mostly my euphonium playing, my mum's piano playing and my brother's occasional trombone playing.

This would happen a few times, including the old banging-on-the-wall technique. After he hit my dad (it can't have hurt him too much because he laughed and slammed the door on him) we got the police involved. An agreement was reached which was that I would not play after 9pm ... which I was fine with.

Of course the wall-banging continued and he still complained. Problems I will work with (a more-recent neighbour was far more polite and I agreed to stop playing because of their personal situation), but down-right rudeness will just encourage me to play louder folks.

Basically play at reasonable times ... early evening being a good one. I don't see any reason then why they should complain when they either blast out their hi-fi system or jam in their home-studio.

OK, that isn't the case with everyone ... but basically, although annoying your neighbours isn't the way to go ... they have nowhere to go if you want to practise during reasonable hours.

Naomi McFadyen
14.07.2004, 13:04
When I lived in Plymouth I could play drums (or anything else- but mainly drums) for hours and hours and hours, no complaints... in fact if anyone came over it was to say they enjoyed listening to me bang i mean play.... :)

Few years on, I moved upto Tavistock (14miles North of Plymouth).... got a shed, in goes drum kit... after weeks I was the talk of the street... one woman just hated it- talked to everyone *but* my household about it... and by Xmas I had a knock on the door, was about 3.30, I had been playing an hour, just about finished.... next door neighbour says.... "my daughter is trying to do her homework and I'm trying to sleep cos I work night shifts.... i love drums but....."

:shock:

I was like... ummm, ur daughter prolly just walked in the door from school and I'm hardly gonna play at night, am I- (like, I was aware he worked nights!!!) :roll: :-P ..... but I let my mum deal with him, while I smiled sweetly, him thinking it was the "son" playing away.... MWAHAHA!

Now I've moved up North, my drum kit lives in the bandroom and I wouldnt play it in the house I'm in... the area is nice, people very kind, but I'll stick to my cornet and saxohone in the house during daytime and save my "banging" for the bandroom...

;-)

Will the Sec
14.07.2004, 13:58
Have had some trouble with the neighbours on account of them waking me up with loud music at 6.30 (and earlier) in the morning.

According to the lease to which we are both party, all must be quiet between 11pm and 7.30am. This lease is based on the standard environmental health legislation.

When faced with a copy of the lease up his nose, the annoyance ceased.


Your practice regime is not unreasonable. Why use a mute if they're going to whinge anyway? You could actually take them to court for failing to allow you to live in a reasonable manner "without let or hindrance." :twisted:

Liz Courts
14.07.2004, 15:35
I like to think that my neighbours can't hear me practising :shock: :P

But unfortunately they can - I have been complemented on my piano playing, but not so much the cornet... :? ...I don't know if it's the instrument or the skill :dunno

*I'm thinking it's most likely the skill*
:roll::oops::roll::oops::roll::oops::roll::oops::r oll::oops::roll::oops:

Raspberry
14.07.2004, 19:01
My neighbour has a 5/6 year old child so I try to practise early evening - say no later than 8-8.30pm which is when he goes to bed. I have checked with out with her and she doesn't seem to mind.

I often worry about the noise levels when I'm out of the house though as my other half likes to play his CD's and radio rather loudly!!!! :roll:

As a housing officer who regularly deals with noise pollution complaints especially with complaints of loud amplified music.......I just tend to remind folks that their neighbours do need considering, be reasonable and also to keep the noise down after 10pm.

Problem is though everyone tends to have their own tolerance levels.... :roll:

WoodenFlugel
14.07.2004, 20:36
I always try to practice at a reasonable time say between 7:00pm-8:30pm and I play in the room farthest from the neighbours (and it has a good acoustic). I don't think they mind - I've never had any complaints anyway, although once when I was bashing an Area piece my neighbour asked me if I'd mastered "that bit you couldn't play" yet :oops:

backrowbloke
14.07.2004, 21:37
I'm playing now....my neighbours are a field away and are on the greater side of three quarters aged ~their hearing isn't what it used to be hehe :wink:

But are the sheep going to complain? :wink:

Big Twigge
14.07.2004, 22:35
The sheep love me, they'd never complain.....they don't talk back!

Euph-Bari
14.07.2004, 23:31
The sheep love me, they'd never complain.....they don't talk back!

The actor said to the bishop

Dave Euph
15.07.2004, 01:53
The sheep love me, they'd never complain.....they don't talk back!

You shoul hear what they tell me about that "****** loud 'trumpet' playing" ... :shock: :oops: ;)

blue euph
22.07.2004, 22:53
When I went to Minot State, I broke into the music building. :twisted: I figured everybody else was doing it so why can't I? If the security people actually enforced security and I got busted, I would of been in a lot trouble and likely would of been deported out of the US. Granted, at the time, the security people weren't too upset about it as that builiding was going to get renovated in a few years time. I wouldn't do that now b/c of the post 9/11 world we live in.

In one place I lived, the care taker knew that I was a musician and told me its ok for me to practice my euph. in the apartment. I had good neighbors too, a place where the wall thickness was reasonble so that helped.

I would say that practicing between 6pm-9pm and Saturday evenings to 10pm should be fair game where ever a person lives. It wouldn't hurt telling the neighbors that you play a musical instrument. Tell them when you tend to practice, its part of your outreach to the community. Also, let the landlord or the care taker of the place know too. Hopefully, you live in a place that has decent wall thickness. Maybe even turning on the rest room fan too would block some of the sound as well.