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picju96
28.10.2003, 12:56
How about a game of Mornington Crescent then guys?

Which rule set shall we use Dave?

I'll start at Euston Road

:P

PeterBale
28.10.2003, 13:08
I'm afraid you'll have to play by Transport for London's rules, as parts of the Northern line are still closed following the recent accident :wink: :lol: :lol:

Dave Payn
28.10.2003, 13:32
I'm afraid you'll have to play by Transport for London's rules, as parts of the Northern line are still closed following the recent accident :wink: :lol: :lol:

Which means those wishing to travel to Goodge Street will find themselves in spoon.

I think for the benefit of non Londoners here, we should open this up to not so much Underground stations, but UK brass bands and rename it from Mornington Crescent to Rigid Containers. I'll start with a popular opening gambit, Grimethorpe RJB.

asteria
28.10.2003, 13:36
Hehe, i was at Euston Road on friday, what a coincidinc!

Surely the only sensible route would be to head for tottenham court road to avoid triangulation by using the central line.
Next move...

johnflugel
28.10.2003, 13:43
Can someone explain this rather quaint game!?!

John
Rothwell Temps

T-Horn
28.10.2003, 13:46
Sorry to not be with the times, But how the hell do you play this game.!! Does someone wanna explain the rules.
Excuse the ignorance, I'm from Wales. We stick to monopoly.lol
:oops: :( :lol:

lynchie
28.10.2003, 13:56
as i remember it the rules are made up as you go along, but you move from station to station around the london underground. A knowledge of which lines each station is on helps. (Which is why I don't involve myself!)

asteria
28.10.2003, 13:58
There's quite a few rules, the main aim of the game is to get to Mornington Crescent before anyone else does.

The best thing is to is go on a search engine and do a search on mornington crescent, there's loads of sites with rules on. Follow the moves on an underground map and you should get the hang of the basic rules fairly quickly.

Straightmute
28.10.2003, 14:06
Are we playing according to Pillinger's Theorem? If so, you obviously can't start at Euston, unless diagonals are played in recessive form.

D

T-Horn
28.10.2003, 14:09
Cheers Guys. I might stay out of this one and watch the professionals in action!!! 8)

Dave Payn
28.10.2003, 14:12
Best guide out there is the Mornington Crescent Almanac 2002. It explains absolutely eveything in an erudite and lucid fashion.

Regards

andywooler
28.10.2003, 14:23
finding rules for this game is not so easy!

On which basis I will therefore declare a Lambeth Variation and head for St. Pauls

asteria
28.10.2003, 14:25
I've loved the game since i was little, my grandad taught me all the rules, he played it loads and even got through to the finals in regional heats sometime in the 70s.


Are we playing according to Pillinger's Theorem? If so, you obviously can't start at Euston, unless diagonals are played in recessive form.
D

Good point David, but doesn't Pillinger's theorem only apply when all the district line stations are wild?

Daniel Sheard
28.10.2003, 14:45
No, not when it's Greenwich Mean Time.


Turnham Green

lynchie
28.10.2003, 14:50
I just managed to win a game against my computer, and have no idea how!

Straightmute
28.10.2003, 14:51
Turnham Green

Bravo!

Arnos Grove

D

PeterBale
28.10.2003, 14:51
No, not when it's Greenwich Mean Time.


Turnham Green

Why? What colour are they at the moment :?: :wink: :lol:

Hammersmith

Daniel Sheard
28.10.2003, 14:54
Oooh, crossed postings.

Anyway, Peter, you can't have Hammersmith after Turnham Green unless the Wimbledon convention is being followed. And nobody follows the Wimbledon convention these days. So 1990s!

Daniel

Straightmute
28.10.2003, 15:01
Oooh, crossed postings.

Anyway, Peter, you can't have Hammersmith after Turnham Green unless the Wimbledon convention is being followed. And nobody follows the Wimbledon convention these days. So 1990s!

Daniel

Exactly. Arnos Grove is the way out of this, as I indicated above...

D

Keppler
28.10.2003, 15:06
Is anyone else completely lost?

emm... Clontarf Road!
????

PeterBale
28.10.2003, 15:09
Oooh, crossed postings.

Anyway, Peter, you can't have Hammersmith after Turnham Green unless the Wimbledon convention is being followed. And nobody follows the Wimbledon convention these days. So 1990s!

Daniel

You can if you only use the Piccadilly Line platforms!


Finsbury Park

andyp
28.10.2003, 15:11
Is anyone else completely lost?

emm... Clontarf Road!
????

For the uninitiated, Stovold's third compendium only allows parallel bidding providing Charing Cross has only been played once, and there are no closed loops. Of course this depends on all previous trumps having been made on even moves. Yes, it really is that simple!

so, a bit risky....but...I'll try a tentative loop to Old Kent Road.

andywooler
28.10.2003, 15:14
at which point I'll get off and play monopoly instead - see you all at Whitechapel

PeterBale
28.10.2003, 15:17
at which point I'll get off and play monopoly instead - see you all at Whitechapel

You only want to go there to get your £200 :wink:

Hope you land on "Chance" instead and get "Advance to Mayfair" :!:

andywooler
28.10.2003, 15:25
that would be a great tmp christmas event - start at 11.00am in the Old kent Road and drink in all locations except the stations and utilities. Final port of call, Shepherd Market Mayfair. Last time I did it, we just made last orders in mayfair.
Of course, if anyone from Redbridge Band is around, we might also get one of the utilities! (London Electricity)

picju96
28.10.2003, 15:27
How can you say there are rules, of course there aren't any rules!

I'm off to Elephant and Castle, one of my favourite stations. I can do this due to the Garden trumpington variation on the ratified rule set of 1892, which leaves Keppler in spoon, seeing as he has no idea what's going on, and to andyp going to Old Kent Road, well that was risky, so here, have 3 green tokens for your trouble.

Dave Payn
28.10.2003, 15:29
that would be a great tmp christmas event - start at 11.00am in the Old kent Road and drink in all locations except the stations and utilities. Final port of call, Shepherd Market Mayfair. Last time I did it, we just made last orders in mayfair.
Of course, if anyone from Redbridge Band is around, we might also get one of the utilities! (London Electricity)

And after several pints, we'd ALL get the other Monopoly utility!

davidsait
28.10.2003, 15:37
Hmmm. No ones defined a specific ruleset as yet, so I assume we're playing under the original Chalk Farm '84 rules?

I'll start at Woodford, but set Acton Town as home.

PeterBale
28.10.2003, 16:10
that would be a great tmp christmas event - start at 11.00am in the Old kent Road and drink in all locations except the stations and utilities. Final port of call, Shepherd Market Mayfair. Last time I did it, we just made last orders in mayfair.
Of course, if anyone from Redbridge Band is around, we might also get one of the utilities! (London Electricity)

And after several pints, we'd ALL get the other Monopoly utility!

That's assuming you haven't all gone directly to jail, without passing go :wink: :lol: :lol:

lynchie
28.10.2003, 16:14
Do we all get £200 at the end of the night? Or is it the first back to Crumlin?

andywooler
28.10.2003, 17:54
you don't get much for £200 in Mayfair (so I'm told)!

MoominDave
28.10.2003, 18:30
Mr Sait - you can't start at Woodford on a Tuesday in a prime number year; haven't you got yourself a copy of the Leningrad Codex yet?! It states this perfectly clearly in the Book of Numbers, taking every forty-second letter throughout, albeit in a mediaeval Hebrew script, but if you're not up to decoding that, frankly you shouldn't be playing with the big boys here.

I suggest the solution is to declare Tuatha de Danaan before approaching Woodford by crabwise motion from your declared start. It's risky - what if someone related to you by not less than two degrees of consanguinity Surprises their Turntable? Could be messy... - but the benefits clearly outweigh the potential difficulties, with the possibility of the seizure of the Red Hand of Ulster just a few moves down the line.

I think that in the over-extended position we've got ourselves into here, an understated move is what's needed to balance some of the nervous tension that's evident from some of the more hysterical moves that have been made (and so early on!): Northwood Hills, whilst noting that the Enclosure of Lugh denies the use of the 'Cry Havoc' option amongst those born in an area of population density greater than 1.5 people/mile.

Dave

Straightmute
29.10.2003, 00:39
Couldn't agree more.

Embankment.

davidsait
29.10.2003, 09:51
True, but the Leningrad Codex was in fact proved to be a fake by the Sunday Times, late in 2001, hence has no use in positional play.

So Woodford was valid, as is Waterloo, which doubles my pink token count.

Anglo Music Press
29.10.2003, 12:38
Erm...... Mornington Crescent

What do I win????

PeterBale
29.10.2003, 12:55
Erm...... Mornington Crescent

What do I win????

How about a set of "Kaleidoscope", suitably endorsed by the composer :?: :wink: :lol:

geordiecolin
29.10.2003, 13:24
Well, you lost me there!!!

Anyone fancy a game using the Tyne and Wear Metro?

I'll start with Monument

timbloke
29.10.2003, 13:38
from my extensive research on t'internet i found a lesser dictated set of rules "the Rotherham set" of 1965, devised by Ernest Blakeney, of Rotherham, on a visit to Holborn..

Russel Square.

davidsait
29.10.2003, 13:39
Erm...... Mornington Crescent

What do I win????

Errr, actually I'm not sure that's a legal move. When Whitechapel was played earlier on, and Elephant & Castle followed later, it doubled the line velocity and put the Northern Line in strick until enough purple podumes could be played.

A better move might be North Ealing, 'cos it gives an advantage zones 3&4.

picju96
29.10.2003, 13:42
I totally agree with Dave, seeing as we're playing the original chalk farm rules from '85. Those purple podumes are a pain aren't they?! OK, from North Ealing, I'm gonna move to Holland Park, carefully avoiding the Northern Line.

lynchie
29.10.2003, 13:43
it'd be much simpler to play blankety blank...

neiltwist
29.10.2003, 13:50
Well, you lost me there!!!

Anyone fancy a game using the Tyne and Wear Metro?

I'll start with Monument

one problem with that though colin, isn't there just one big line?

but I'll go for central station

geordiecolin
29.10.2003, 14:01
Well, theres 2 actually, Yellow and Green (So cunningly simple)

Using the South Gosforth reverse depot crossover rule, I'm heading to Four Lane Ends

PeterBale
29.10.2003, 14:12
Well, theres 2 actually, Yellow and Green (So cunningly simple)

Using the South Gosforth reverse depot crossover rule, I'm heading to Four Lane Ends

Taking advantage of the North Sea (maritime concessions) Incorporation clause of 1998 I'll plump for South Shields, via North Shields and the ferry.

geordiecolin
29.10.2003, 14:17
Where exactly are we heading to though??

There is no Mornington Crescent,

I suggest we head to God's Place and make this a game of St. James,

as for my move, i'll throw a curveball by using The Venerable explotation tactic (2001) and head to South Hylton

andyp
29.10.2003, 14:21
Am I allowed to play Whitley Bay or is that a bad example of a forbidden reverse pivotal sling?

Anglo Music Press
29.10.2003, 14:53
Actually, I was BORN in Mornington Crescent - not the tube station - it's a road near Heathrow.

South Acton - follow that!

Straightmute
29.10.2003, 16:14
Actually, I was BORN in Mornington Crescent - not the tube station - it's a road near Heathrow.

South Acton - follow that!

And I walk along Mornington Crescent (Harrogate) on my way to band practice.

Finsbury Park. (My favourite non-retrogradeable tube station!)

D

Big Twigge
29.10.2003, 17:12
I wanna play... but sadly I don't know the rules, don't know the underground/metro well enough and there isn't any form of transport that could get me to mornington cresent from here anyway.

PeterBale
29.10.2003, 17:19
Actually, I was BORN in Mornington Crescent - not the tube station - it's a road near Heathrow.

And I walk along Mornington Crescent (Harrogate) on my way to band practice.

Well, I've played in St James's (The London park, not the Newcastle one - although I did play at Roker Park a couple of times :wink: )

Euston (we are playing the Victoria Line as wild, aren't we :?: )

neiltwist
29.10.2003, 17:28
Am I allowed to play Whitley Bay or is that a bad example of a forbidden reverse pivotal sling?

it is bad but still an example, and therefore I am allowed to use the (not so) sacred sunderland rule and go to the stadium of light!

andywooler
29.10.2003, 23:20
it is bad but still an example, and therefore I am allowed to use the (not so) sacred sunderland rule and go to the stadium of light!

ah, Light, that thing you see when Morning(ton crescent) has broken!
(lapsing into the tune thread by mistake)

Anglo Music Press
30.10.2003, 07:15
Well, I've played in St James's



Well my aunt knows someone who's sister once met Felicity Kendall!

BigHorn
30.10.2003, 08:12
And once Chris Tarrant fell down some steps right next to me - but your celebrity, diversionary tactics will not work as I close in on the kill and play Angel Islington !

Daniel Sheard
30.10.2003, 11:14
You think that's clever, don't you, but you've missed out this trick:

Queensway

Daniel

PeterBale
30.10.2003, 11:18
Only one way to follow that: Royal Oak

Straightmute
30.10.2003, 12:22
Maida Vale

D

Daniel Sheard
30.10.2003, 12:42
Oooh, sneaky.

Tottenham Court Road

leisa
30.10.2003, 12:48
I wanna play... but sadly I don't know the rules, don't know the underground/metro well enough and there isn't any form of transport that could get me to mornington cresent from here anyway.

neither do i!!! i dunna even know where that is!! :cry: :cry: :?

BigHorn
30.10.2003, 13:15
You think that's clever, don't you, but you've missed out this trick:

Queensway

Daniel

Arrrrgh !! that was sneaky

OK take this. Farringdon :twisted:

JessopSmythe
30.10.2003, 13:20
Thats the one I've been waiting for. since we're now on GMT, the Littleton alternative is now playable.




Tooting Broadway!

Daniel Sheard
30.10.2003, 14:47
Cockfosters.

(Lyttleton, by the way)

Daniel

Straightmute
30.10.2003, 16:45
Nice move. I like your style!

Plaistow.

Hahaha, bet you weren't expecting that!

D

JessopSmythe
30.10.2003, 16:52
Oooh, defensive play now :shock:

Embankment

Hows that for a recovery?

Big Twigge
30.10.2003, 17:39
all i can say is Elephant and castle

PeterBale
30.10.2003, 17:48
Regent's Park :?:

andywooler
30.10.2003, 19:33
playing the Bobby Moore gambit, via Bogota to
Upton Park, home of the academy of football

cornetgirl
30.10.2003, 23:23
Assuming I'm not in Nip, I'll go with Aldgate East

Rach x

PS who's for a round of One Song To The Tune Of Another???

stephen2001
31.10.2003, 08:09
PS who's for a round of One Song To The Tune Of Another???

How about the words to Like a Bat Out of Hell to the tune of the Postman Pat theme tune:?: :!: :?:
Has me in stiches everytime I hear it :lol:

Anyway, back to Mornington Crescent, I think, that as it is Half-Term in most places, I am able to go to Heathrow Terminal 4

davidsait
31.10.2003, 11:04
Dollis Hill

PeterBale
31.10.2003, 11:12
Dollis Hill :?:

Well, call a doctor from the dolls' 'ospital :wink:

Harrow-on-the-Hill (assuming National Rail parity is valid during off-peak travel)

Straightmute
31.10.2003, 11:33
I have to say, the quality of the playing on here is very impressive. Sven would be proud of you all.

Turnpike Lane.

D

davidsait
31.10.2003, 12:08
Holborn, trumping Peter Bale.

Daniel Sheard
31.10.2003, 15:59
... not to mention Samantha.

Euston Square

Daniel

picju96
31.10.2003, 16:18
I'm off to Oxford Street

PeterBale
31.10.2003, 16:41
I'm off to Oxford Street

Instant disqualification, I'm afraid, on account of there being no tube station called "Oxford Street" :shock:

For a second "life" choose between: Marble Arch, Bond Street, Oxford Circus and Tottenham Court Road 8)

davidsait
31.10.2003, 16:52
It's ok Peter, she's playing Street Level Rules (http://www.warwick.ac.uk/~msrxaf/crescent/encyc.htm#streetlevelrules).

So I'll follow with Lower Regents Street.

PeterBale
31.10.2003, 17:15
In that case, I over-bid with Conduit Street and Faubert's Passage

Anglo Music Press
31.10.2003, 17:26
PS who's for a round of One Song To The Tune Of Another???

Have you tried Love Me Tender to the Archers Theme Tune??

(My favourite!)

davidsait
31.10.2003, 19:23
In that case, I over-bid with Conduit Street and Faubert's Passage

Oooooh! Nice!

But I'm playing safe. Bow Road.

cornetgirl
31.10.2003, 20:01
Safe play is for wusses... I'm going to strike out on a bit of limb here and go for...

West Acton

Rach x

Straightmute
31.10.2003, 20:14
Lancaster Gate!

Yo dood.

D

davidsait
31.10.2003, 20:15
[quote="cornetgirl"]Safe play is for wusses... I'm going to strike out on a bit of limb here and go for...

West Acton

/quote]

Yes, but if you're not careful, you'll strike out too far, and someone will swipe half your grey tokens, with something like:

East Acton

picju96
31.10.2003, 20:28
Ha! Nicely done!

I'm a sort of the middle of the road sort of person, so I'm going with Bermondsey, not too safe, and not too risky either.

HBB
11.10.2004, 16:38
Mornington Crescent

Ste69
11.10.2004, 16:43
Mornington Crescent
Sorry...overruled - look back 2 posts to the double west/east naming.

This denies a finish for at least 6 moves under the original ruling of 1709

therefore........ Cannon St

HBB
11.10.2004, 16:46
Cockfosters

Ste69
11.10.2004, 16:47
Cockfosters
Cheeky!!!!!!!

Well, I'll put you in the loop system by pushing through to Arsenal

HBB
11.10.2004, 16:49
Hammersmith

Ste69
11.10.2004, 16:51
Edgware Rd....All change!!!!!

cornetgirl
11.10.2004, 17:08
Marble Arch

Ste69
11.10.2004, 17:10
Marble Arch
Mornington Crescent!!!!!

you walked straight into that!!!!:D

Bones
11.10.2004, 17:17
Time for a manouvre I think.

So invoking a Bidermeyers slip I think I'll go to Tufnell Park

Ste69
11.10.2004, 17:18
Time for a manouvre I think.

So invoking a Bidermeyers slip I think I'll go to Tufnell Park
2 podumes to you my friend...(ingenious and inventive)

harrow and wealdstone- note the use of lower case to signify reverse coupling