Classic Brass - Grimethorpe

[Accidental]

Not so much a review as questions....
Does anyone know who was playing on the original Classic Brass album (the 1980's orange one with William Tell, Mr Jums etc)? I'd love to know who the amazing sop is, and who's playing Misty. Imo this is still one of the best all-round recordings out there, but there's no info about it. Anyone able to help?

[dyl]

I'd love to know who the amazing sop is
Peter Roberts

[Accidental]

Thought so! Wish I'd put some money on it now.........
Any ideas on Misty? not even convinced I know wether its horn or flugel 'cos it sounds different every time I hear it :-?

[Jacob Larsen]

Isen´t it Frank Renton conducting ?

[dyl]

Any ideas on Misty? not even convinced I know wether its horn or flugel 'cos it sounds different every time I hear it :-?
Hehe - same here! If its flugel I guess it's Mark Walters, and if its horn it could be Brian Smith?

[brassneck]

Hehe - same here! If its flugel I guess it's Mark Walters, and if its horn it could be Brian Smith?

- definitely tenor horn! ;)

[Hornblower RN]

Certainly not a flugel.......

[zak]

I'm pretty certain its Brian Smith playing Misty :clap:

[ian perks]

I'm pretty certain its Brian Smith playing Misty :clap:
Well if this man dont know who does:confused:

[brassneck]

Well if this man dont know who does:confused:

- perhaps the soloist, band & conductor who recorded the number? ;)

[zak]

- perhaps the soloist, band & conductor who recorded the number? ;)

Why didn't I think of that?????? ;) ;) ;)

Good thinking Batman :clap:

[1st Position]

- perhaps the soloist, band & conductor who recorded the number? ;)

Two out of three - Grimethorpe Colliery Band, conducted by Frank Renton.

That just leaves the soloist?

[brassneck]

Two out of three - Grimethorpe Colliery Band, conducted by Frank Renton.

That just leaves the soloist?

- I'm pretty certain it's Bryan Smith as well ... even if he isn't listed as the soloist for Misty on the Grimey site (no-one is!). Maybe Alan Morrison can confirm this the next time he visits tMP?

[Accidental]

Thanks guys.
Glad to hear it really is a horn and I'm not totally nuts and/or deaf.;)

[Kerwintootle]

It is such an awesome CD. We're not worthy Mr Roberts.

I almost wore out the tape, I rewinded the end of McArthur Park and replayed it so much!

[2nd man down]

It is such an awesome CD. We're not worthy Mr Roberts.

I almost wore out the tape, I rewinded the end of McArthur Park and replayed it so much!

I have it on cd thankfully, if I'd had it on tape Macarthur Park would have worn away years ago. What an ending.

And the Finale from Faust is just awesome. :eek:

[Ankanala]

Hi all

This CD still remains perhaps the best band recording I have been involved in. It was recorded at Strawberry Studios in Stockport in less than a day and included several tracks that went down in one take! It was for EMI - Music for Pleasure.

Frank Renton conducted, I was PC and the band included Peter Roberts on sop, Mark Walters on Flugel, Brian Smith on Horn, Billy Millar on Euph and it may have been Chris Jeans on Trombone but I can`t quite remember. It was about the time Chris had a short spell with Grimethorpe.

Frank and the band were on top form and the production is superb as you would expect from EMI.

Misty was played on horn by Brian Smith.

Hope this clears up any doubt.

Cheers

Alan

[brassneck]

Thanks for that Alan ... apart from the spelling of his name ... is it Brian or Bryan? Personal favourite track of mine isn't 'MacArthur Park' but Garry Howarth's band version of 'Mr. Lear's Carnival'. Superb listening, even today!

[Ankanala]

is it Brian or Bryan?

You may be right, was never very good at spelling!

A

[brassneck]

You may be right, was never very good at spelling!

A

- his name's been differently spelled from different sources. For such a longstanding member of Grimey, he must have been taken for granted ... in the nicest possible sense that is! One of the unsung heroes of horn playing!

[Ankanala]

Personal favourite track of mine isn't 'MacArthur Park' but Garry Howarth's band version of 'Mr. Lear's Carnival'. Superb listening, even today!

Yes it is good listening isn`t it? I remember in about 1982 when we recorded the Firebird album for Polyphonic, Ray Farr wanted to include the whole winning Granada programme which was Midnight Sleighride, On With the Motley, Harry Janos, Mr. Lears and Firebird. Stan Kitchen refused point blank to have it on his recording saying it was a visual piece only and even in the sessions at St Georges Hall some tense moments between the two were evident because we actually recorded Mr. Lears only for it to be scrapped by Stan.

It still is a good album but could have been better with Mr Lears.

A

[brassneck]

Yes it is good listening isn`t it? I remember in about 1982 when we recorded the Firebird album for Polyphonic, Ray Farr wanted to include the whole winning Granada programme which was Midnight Sleighride, On With the Motley, Harry Janos, Mr. Lears and Firebird. Stan Kitchen refused point blank to have it on his recording saying it was a visual piece only and even in the sessions at St Georges Hall some tense moments between the two were evident because we actually recorded Mr. Lears only for it to be scrapped by Stan.

It still is a good album but could have been better with Mr Lears.

A

- only thing strange about Mr. Lear's Carnival is the lack of deliberate wrong notes in the cornet parts for the tripling section (and the sighs used in the PJBE recording). There must be a story why that was done?

[Ankanala]

- only thing strange about Mr. Lear's Carnival is the lack of deliberate wrong notes in the cornet parts for the tripling section (and the sighs used in the PJBE recording). There must be a story why that was done?

The deliberate wrong notes are not in the band arrangement, although we used to play them in concert. The sighs in the PJBE version were perculiar to them, we never did them except for a few disgusted looks at each other and blaming instruments and valves. This is probably the visual side that Stan was worried about and perhaps we just decided to play what was written for the Classic Brass recording.

A

[Kerwintootle]

It was recorded at Strawberry Studios in Stockport in less than a day and included several tracks that went down in one take!

Good grief! Less than one day. It was and still is an inspirational recording. :clap:

[2nd man down]

It was recorded at Strawberry Studios in Stockport in less than a day and included several tracks that went down in one take!


That's just unbelievable!! It's still the best CD in my collection by a mile, and to think it took such a short time to record makes it even more amazing!


Just wow.

[KMJ Recordings]

That's just unbelievable!! It's still the best CD in my collection by a mile, and to think it took such a short time to record makes it even more amazing!


Just wow.

If you've got the Band they had then, all you need to do is sit down and play :D

[Maestro]

That's just unbelievable!! It's still the best CD in my collection by a mile, and to think it took such a short time to record makes it even more amazing!


Just wow.

It's very good indeed 2md, but for me 'Grimethorpe Entertains' just has the edge.
Which reminds me......Dyl, I must pm you about a certain album :wink:

[rebecca]

That's just unbelievable!! It's still the best CD in my collection by a mile, and to think it took such a short time to record makes it even more amazing!


Just wow.

This version of MacArthur Park has to be one of my favourite pieces of music, it's awesome, I've always said I want it playing either at my wedding or my funeral, which ever comes first, lol! Truly an amazing piece and an amazing CD.

[BeatTheSheep]

The sop part in florentiner march just blew me away. I struggled to play that an octave down on cornet! (in my youth).