Splitting Up

[musicmaker]

I have email john with a suggestion of splitting the recruitment corner into two sections.

1. Being bands after players
2. Being musical directors

I feel this would be better for posting ads and also for people looking for places, as there is more players post listed than MD’s.

John has asked me to post here to get some feed back as it’s our site and he just runs it!!!!! (So to speak).

[PeterBale]

I think it could be a good idea to split it, especially as people don't always make it clear in the thread heading exactly what they're looking for.

[tubafran]

What about regional and section splits?

If you are a Championship player you might not be that interested in a seat at Barnstonworth Silver Colliery Prize Band but prefer to scan through the sections you were interested in.

Also most people would prefer not to travel substantial distances to find a band and a regional sort would make that easier.

[Di]

What about regional and section splits?

If you are a Championship player you might not be that interested in a seat at Barnstonworth Silver Colliery Prize Band but prefer to scan through the sections you were interested in.

Also most people would prefer not to travel substantial distances to find a band and a regional sort would make that easier.

I'd thought about that. I think you could ask for either/or, trying to do both may get a little messy.

[agentorange]

For me, regional splits makes the most sense. This is how I search when on the 'other' band website.

[musicmaker]

There has been over 100 peeps look at this thread and only a handful put down what they think.

LIKE JOHNS SAYS IT’S OUR SITE.

SO TELL HIM WHAT WE WANT SO HE HAS SOMETHING TO WORK OFF
?

[euphfanhan]

Like tubafran already suggested, maybe something like on the 4br vacancies page? Section and Region options? With a little drop down box thingy :rolleyes: ? (<--high tech computer talk!)

[McEuphie]

I would agree that a split between players and MDs with players (bands) by region - not sure if you need to split MDs - MDs may be more willing to go "out of zone" for a "better" band.

Cheers

McEuphie

[Jan H]

I have email john with a suggestion of splitting the recruitment corner into two sections.

1. Being bands after players
2. Being musical directors
That would be a good idea, I think. Just like we did with the dep forum.
IMO there's no need to further split it up. As long as people use clear thread titles (including section, area)...

[FlugelD]

There has been over 100 peeps look at this thread and only a handful put down what they think.

LIKE JOHNS SAYS IT’S OUR SITE.

SO TELL HIM WHAT WE WANT SO HE HAS SOMETHING TO WORK OFF
?

If you insist....

I have no feelings one way or the other.

NOW STOP SHOUTING AT ME!

[tubafran]

[quote=jan_h]... Just like we did with the dep forum.
IMO there's no need to further split it up. Aquote]

How was the dep forum made different? Still seems to be a list of various players who are willing to dep which is listed chronologically - when for example you are looking for a dep you tend to know what instrument you are looking for first - and then presummably the secondary consideration would be how far they would need to travel.

Similar really to what you would want a prospective applicant to look for when you advertise your vacant positions. Whilst the numbers of bands posting for players or players willing to dep is quite small it doesn't take to much time to scroll down however if it was used more this could prove to be a hinderance to your seach.

[Di]

[quote=jan_h]... Just like we did with the dep forum.
IMO there's no need to further split it up. Aquote]

How was the dep forum made different? Still seems to be a list of various players who are willing to dep which is listed chronologically - when for example you are looking for a dep you tend to know what instrument you are looking for first - and then presummably the secondary consideration would be how far they would need to travel.


The dep forum was made different by splitting one forum into two categories :

Players offering their services
Players required.
;)

[ian perks]

I am in Favour of this great idea :clap: ;)

[DublinBass]

Like tubafran already suggested, maybe something like on the 4br vacancies page? Section and Region options? With a little drop down box thingy :rolleyes: ? (<--high tech computer talk!)

If people would just put region and section in the title (like they are supposed to by the recruitment rules) there wouldn't be any problems now would there?

Perhaps there should be accepted abreviations to put at the begining of the title to make more room in the titles for other of the crazy things people like to put.

e.g., WoE,LSC,Mid,Sct,Wal,MW,Yrk,NoE,US,NZ,Aus,etc..
and Ch,1,2,3,4,5

[timbloke]

The problem with regional splits is for those of us on the edge of a region who would consider more than one region. The only way it could really work is to have a poscode entry and "within the following distance" selection.

But I think that is a waste of effort. In the last month there have been 77 posts on the Recruitment thread. So even if you only check once a month it is only 4 pages to scan through.

I think more important than spliting up the forum is enforcing the thread headers more strictly so it is easy to see the location and instrument (and section). It was a good idea put forward in january last year.... 18 months on it is still not used by everyone. Is there a way of blocking threads from appearing unless they have the defined format in the thread title?

I'd agree on the MD being separate as it will be attracting different people.

Good suggestion from Pat about the use of abbreviations.

[PeterBale]

I don't think using just the existing regions is anything like specific enough, paticular if you look at somhere like the West of England, that covers a very wide geographical spread.

[Jan H]

How about doing it like this:
Make four subcategories for the "recruitment corner":
- players looking for a band
- bands looking for players
- conductors looking for a band
- bands looking for a conductor

-> it should no longer be possible to make posts in the "main" catgeory, only in the 4 subcategories
-> the posting rules should be enforced better (e.g. including sections / area in the thred title). This could be done by making the forums moderated (like user-submitted news: new threads need to be approved by a mod before they appear)

thoughts?

[DaveR]

I don't think using just the existing regions is anything like specific enough, paticular if you look at somhere like the West of England, that covers a very wide geographical spread.

How about by county?

[Di]

Make four subcategories for the "recruitment corner":
- players looking for a band
- bands looking for players
- conductors looking for a band
- bands looking for a conductor
Not too sure about that one. The players and MD's looking for bands areas would be a bit thin. I would think a split as to band sections (ranking not players) would be helpful, and a suggested standard layout for the heading.

Also, would it be beneficial to have a separate category, may be a sub-cat to rehearsal room for all matters MD related?

[Jan H]

Also, would it be beneficial to have a separate category, may be a sub-cat to rehearsal room for all matters MD related?
I don't think so, the number of categories and subcategories on tMP is already getting very big, IMO.


p.s. the quote above is not from me, but from someone else...

[Di]

I don't think so, the number of categories and subcategories on tMP is already getting very big, IMO.


p.s. the quote above is not from me, but from someone else...
Woops, my mistake.

I made my reply, then posted, realised someone had replied between my post and yours, went back and copied yours to add a quote to my post so people knew what I was responding to and wrapped quotes round my own post without added the bit it was quoting. :redface: Does that make any sense? :rolleyes:

There, edited. :redface:

[Jan H]

Not too sure about that one. The players and MD's looking for bands areas would be a bit thin.
These two could be joined into 1 subcategory... e.g. "players/conductors looking for a band"
I don't think this would be thin. There are regularly posts by people looking for a band...


I made my reply, then posted, realised someone had replied between my post and yours, went back and copied yours to add a quote to my post so people knew what I was responding to and wrapped quotes round my own post without added the bit it was quoting. :redface: Does that make any sense? :rolleyes: huh :confused:

I think I need to lay down for a while now.. ;)

[Charmed]

I personally do not have a problem scanning through all the posts under one thread, as someone mentioned on an earlier post, there is generally not that many to look through over any period of time. What I would like to see changed because it really frustrates me (and I've been guilty of the same 'offence' myself :oops: ) is the assumption that readers know where 'such and such' a band is located! I would like to be able to see what the area a band plays in. I often have to search for the band's website (if they have one) just for location. Not that I'm interested in looking for another band you understand, just that I'm nosey! :biggrin:

[mikelyons]

The idea of somehow enforcing the format of the title is a good one, though I probably wouldn't want to be the poor sod who has to check them if you go down the moderated thread route.

It defo does need splitting up, though. It can be very frustrating looking through, only to find what looks like a suitable band to stick-wag for, only to find they're in the WoE or Aus or whatever.

Maybe the MD looking for band bit wouldn't be as thin as you think - especially as students graduate and want to look for bands for experience every year.

[musicmaker]

There is loads of good stuff here and I'm glad that it's John who will have to make a decision.

I liked a few ideas that if they were put together could work.

IE.
- Players conductors looking for a band ****
- Bands looking for a conductor ***
-Bands looking for players ***

*** Title must say or thread will be removed.
eg/ 3rd section north York’s

**** Conductor London 1hour (1hour being traveling time)

I think this would be easy (ish) to set up and would work for most areas.


What do you think???

[Vickitorious]

Maybe we should just have section splits, and then in the title of the thread the person posting has to put the region and the vacancy.

Then you're not looking through whole region threads looking for say.. a 1st section band and all you can find is a 3rd or 4th?

+ If you did it in sections you could see what comes up and look more at travelling whereas, i guess if we had it in regions people would jus look at their own regions more than others even though the bands may not be that far? :confused:

AND.. a lot of people when looking for a band, normally have a vague idea of what section they're looking for so.. :dunno

Just my opinion! :)

Me xxx :)

[PeterBale]

AND.. a lot of people when looking for a band, normally have a vague idea of what section they're looking for so.. :dunno

Just my opinion! :)

Me xxx :)

Championship, now ;)

[Di]

I made a suggestion to John which he is looking into that instead of one "title" box, there are three fields to be filled in

1) Section
2) Instrument required
3) Location

Only when all three boxes are filled in will the post be allowed to be submitted. I've asked if these fields can then be added to the advanced search facility to make searching easier.