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Fishsta
13.10.2003, 11:32
Less than a week to go to the biggest event in the best sport in the world...


The SUPER LEAGUE GRAND FINAL.

This year, table-toppers Bradford Bulls will take on the Wigan Warriors. Wigan are currently on an unbeaten run since their caretaker coach, Mike Gregory, stepped in, beating St Helens in every game this season, Leeds last week in the final eliminator, and the record against Bradford is currently at 2 all for the season.

I'm going to be there in the Cherry and White, cheering for the Warriors, along with the other half (who will be cheering for Bradford), but who do you think will win?

The odds are in Bradford's favour, but only just.... 4/7 for them, and 4/5 for Wigan.

I really don't know, it's too close to call. It should be a cracking match, though.

rutty
13.10.2003, 12:31
It's a close one to call, but the Bulls have been the most consistent team this season and will just about win it. They beat Leeds well two weeks ago, but the Leeds/Wigan game was much closer.

I can't possibly shout for a team from the wrong side of the Pennines, so I'll be shouting for the Bulls, despite being a Rhinos fan. It'll be a good game though.

Big Fella
13.10.2003, 12:37
There has to be only one winner, that has got to be Wigan....
After the way they have played in the last couple of games, they only seem to be getting better and better..
As long as they stop Bradford from scoring for the first 15 minutes, then Wigan should win. BUT, if bradford manage to get a couple of scores early on, then the Fat Lady had better start warming up early, for the Warrior's..

Never Mind Though, Win Or Lose, I Will Be Having A Booze.....

dyl
13.10.2003, 12:38
I don't do egg-chasing, sorry! 8)

Straightmute
13.10.2003, 12:52
... beating St Helens in every game this season ...

That's worth repeating, for anyone, such as Neil T, who may have missed it the first time.

And again:


... beating St Helens in every game this season ...

It just gets better and better.

Unfortunately we have a gig with the German Band that evening (free beer and food...) so I'll have to cope with watching the match on the telly.

Since I live on the wrong side of the hills these days (working in an educational capacity of course) I might just find a local pub with a big screen and wear my Wigan shirt...

Did I ever tell you I went to school with Andy Gregory?

D

Heather
13.10.2003, 13:57
Well, seeing as my beloved Swinton (don't laugh) aren't in it this season(!!) I had better give my vote to Wigan.
Being a Lancashire lass I can't doing anything else.
I'll certainly be watching. :D

Fishsta
13.10.2003, 15:12
Well, seeing as my beloved Swinton (don't laugh) aren't in it this season(!!) I had better give my vote to Wigan.
Being a Lancashire lass I can't doing anything else.
I'll certainly be watching. :D

That's what I like to hear. Someone getting it right. Wigan is in LANCASHIRE. :)

Most people think it's in Greater Manchester, but of course, we all know that Greater Manchester was a "Metropolitan Borough", not a county, and was abolished in about 1986 or so, along with places such as Merseyside, Humberside, and the split of Yorkshire (Yup, there's just "Yorkshire" now)

Of course, this means that Liverpool, Wigan, Bolton, Leigh, Rochdale, Manchester, Oldham and so on are back in Lancashire. Hurrah!

One of the few places that was in Lancashire but isn't anymore (it's now in Cheshire), is Warrington.

Sorry. That's your Geography lesson for today.

Sellers_Bird
13.10.2003, 16:49
i have no interest, sorry!

Straightmute
13.10.2003, 17:44
That's what I like to hear. Someone getting it right. Wigan is in LANCASHIRE. :)

Metropoliatan Boroughs never replaced the old county boundaries for sports anyway. So Lancashire's fine cricket team could continue to play at Old Trafford, and the Roses match was never played between Merseyside and Humberside.


and the split of Yorkshire (Yup, there's just "Yorkshire" now)

Not quite. North Yorkshire still exists - and if it doesn't where does all my poll tax go??? But Humberside is now called East Yorkshire. I think it was just the Metropolitans which were abolished.


One of the few places that was in Lancashire but isn't anymore (it's now in Cheshire), is Warrington.

They're very welcome to Warrington and can have St Helens too if they'd like to give us a couple of bob for it.

D

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PeterBale
13.10.2003, 18:11
I'd like to see Wigan take the trophy, as I have happy memories of watching them from the tunnel when providing interval music in the '70s, but I've a feeling that Bradford will just shade a tight match.

On a slight aside, following the geography lessons above, when you travel from Poole to Bournemouth you pass through the landmark known as "County Gates", to show that you are leaving Dorset and moving into Hampshire, except that they redrew the boundaries several years back, putting Bournemouth into Dorset after all :wink: :lol: :lol:

aimee_euph
13.10.2003, 18:12
... beating St Helens in every game this season ...

That's worth repeating, for anyone, such as Neil T, who may have missed it the first time.

And again:


... beating St Helens in every game this season ...

It just gets better and better.


Excuse me, but it's not really fair if Saints win everyhting all the time, is it? We need to let other have a go...ah hem....

I'm a Saints fan thru' an thru' but Come On You Bulls!!!!

Fishsta
13.10.2003, 18:48
>cough< Voluntary tackle >cough<


:) :) :)

aimee_euph
13.10.2003, 19:42
>cough< Voluntary tackle >cough<


:) :) :)

*cough* just jealous we won *cough* find a new arguement *cough*

Fishsta
13.10.2003, 20:18
>cough< Voluntary tackle >cough<


:) :) :)

*cough* just jealous we won *cough* find a new arguement *cough*

*Cough* Not at all *cough* Can't stand cheats *cough* Learn to spell *Triple Cough* :D

cornetgirl
13.10.2003, 21:03
I have only one thing to say....

COME ON YOU BULLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mr. Mute - if I'm right you owe me a pint!

Rach x

aimee_euph
14.10.2003, 00:24
>cough< Voluntary tackle >cough<


:) :) :)

*cough* just jealous we won *cough* find a new arguement *cough*

*Cough* Not at all *cough* Can't stand cheats *cough* Learn to spell *Triple Cough* :D

*just imagine the coughs* what have i spelt wrong :? im doing english language AS level... gettin worried.... *mini cough*

Fishsta
14.10.2003, 00:38
"Argument", and there's the capital letters! They are your friends! :D

neiltwist
14.10.2003, 02:25
>cough< Voluntary tackle >cough<


:) :) :)

Oh great, the good old Voluntary tackle argument, what about when a player is being pushed into touch and tries to get tackled so as not to go into touch eh? If you call one you've got to call them all...

Naomi McFadyen
14.10.2003, 06:29
lol! I wonder if people thought there was a missing option just like I did...
You know, the one saying (being as clean as possible):

"I dont give 2 monkeys"

:-P ;-)

asteria
14.10.2003, 10:36
I have only one thing to say....

COME ON YOU BULLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Quite right too Rachel! I shall be there cheering with all my might!
Ok, so i'm taking my sister and I haven't a clue of the rules, but i shall be cheering my home team anyway!! :D

Pythagoras
14.10.2003, 17:27
lol! I wonder if people thought there was a missing option just like I did...
You know, the one saying (being as clean as possible):

"I dont give 2 monkeys"

:-P ;-)

It's England v South Africa that weekend! Don't really care about RL but for some reason want Wigan to win (even if they are Lancastrians)

neiltwist
14.10.2003, 20:22
well, I want bradford to lose, because there's no way i'll be supporting wigan, and if bradford do win, then lancashire will have the cup!

aimee_euph
14.10.2003, 20:52
"Argument", and there's the capital letters! They are your friends! :D

but they smell... 8) what's an e slipped into a word?!

aimee_euph
14.10.2003, 20:53
lol! I wonder if people thought there was a missing option just like I did...
You know, the one saying (being as clean as possible):

"I dont give 2 monkeys"

:-P ;-)

It's England v South Africa that weekend! Don't really care about RL but for some reason want Wigan to win (even if they are Lancastrians)

But they eat all the pies :wink:

Fishsta
14.10.2003, 21:05
St Helen's are eating humble pie right now... :)






>cough< Voluntary tackle >cough<


:) :) :)

Oh great, the good old Voluntary tackle argument, what about when a player is being pushed into touch and tries to get tackled so as not to go into touch eh? If you call one you've got to call them all...


Nah, we'll just be glad to win the Final WITHOUT resorting to cheating.

aimee_euph
14.10.2003, 22:37
Nah, we'll just be glad to win the Final WITHOUT resorting to cheating.

whoever loses will moan about the other team cheating with something or other...

neiltwist
15.10.2003, 00:28
Nah, we'll just be glad to win the Final WITHOUT resorting to cheating.

whoever loses will moan about the other team cheating with something or other...

the bradford bores will moan whatever happens.

oh no, that's the leeds whinos who do that!

Fishsta
15.10.2003, 00:57
lol! I wonder if people thought there was a missing option just like I did...
You know, the one saying (being as clean as possible):

"I dont give 2 monkeys"

:-P ;-)


Yeah, there is.

It's the "I wouldn't know a good sport if it hit me between the eyes" option, at the bottom.

rutty
15.10.2003, 09:16
Not much for the Saints to shout about this season eh?

1 Bradford 28 22 0 6 44
2 Leeds 28 19 3 6 41
3 Wigan 28 19 2 7 40
4 St Helens 28 16 1 11 31

8)

Straightmute
15.10.2003, 14:13
Nah, we'll just be glad to win the Final WITHOUT resorting to cheating.

whoever loses will moan about the other team cheating with something or other...

Surely to find the cheats we need to look at those teams who have had points deducted this season for over stepping the salary cap. Oh look who it is! <surprise>

D

lynchie
15.10.2003, 14:49
as far as the girly version of rugby goes, i'll be supporting Wigan, as they're closer than Bradford!

aimee_euph
18.10.2003, 18:14
Nah, we'll just be glad to win the Final WITHOUT resorting to cheating.

whoever loses will moan about the other team cheating with something or other...

Surely to find the cheats we need to look at those teams who have had points deducted this season for over stepping the salary cap. Oh look who it is! <surprise>

D

Yawn Yawn, and Wigan have got away with it for the previous two years. I suppose that is alright is it?!

neiltwist
19.10.2003, 03:10
oh dear, the bulls won! unlucky wigan.

leisa
19.10.2003, 12:07
i ams upportin the bradford bulls although i do not know why :? :shock:

Straightmute
19.10.2003, 12:58
Well done Bradford - this season's top team by some margin, and yes, CG I will get you that pint!

But I'm still pleased that Wigan got so far this season, after a very disappointing start, a barrow load of injuries and a managerial crisis. Great that we've finished the season on such a high and that we've beaten St Helens so many times this year...

D

neiltwist
19.10.2003, 14:36
Great that we've finished the season on such a high and that we've beaten St Helens so many times this year...

D

it's ok, we'll return the favour next year if you want!

neiltwist
19.10.2003, 15:40
managerial crisis.

hmmm, you mean your coach gave his notice to leave at the end of the season, so you pushed him?

Fishsta
19.10.2003, 21:53
Nah, we'll just be glad to win the Final WITHOUT resorting to cheating.

whoever loses will moan about the other team cheating with something or other...

Surely to find the cheats we need to look at those teams who have had points deducted this season for over stepping the salary cap. Oh look who it is! <surprise>

D

Yawn Yawn, and Wigan have got away with it for the previous two years. I suppose that is alright is it?!


Get your facts straight before you accuse.


Bradford were the better team last night, but Wigan can be proud of their season. They've blown away all predictions for the season (losing so many experienced players and having to rely on the youth contingent), so to come such a close second is really not bad.

I see Bradford have their own version of Vila Matautia, though. Pryce should have been sent off and receive a 10 match ban for that reckless "tackle" (I apply the term loosely, that was pure thuggism) on Brian Carney.

Superb class try from Radlinski though.

We have so much to take away from this season.

I'm glad Saints have NOTHING.

neiltwist
19.10.2003, 22:38
Nah, we'll just be glad to win the Final WITHOUT resorting to cheating.

whoever loses will moan about the other team cheating with something or other...

Surely to find the cheats we need to look at those teams who have had points deducted this season for over stepping the salary cap. Oh look who it is! <surprise>

D

Yawn Yawn, and Wigan have got away with it for the previous two years. I suppose that is alright is it?!


Get your facts straight before you accuse.


Bradford were the better team last night, but Wigan can be proud of their season. They've blown away all predictions for the season (losing so many experienced players and having to rely on the youth contingent), so to come such a close second is really not bad.

I see Bradford have their own version of Vila Matautia, though. Pryce should have been sent off and receive a 10 match ban for that reckless "tackle" (I apply the term loosely, that was pure thuggism) on Brian Carney.

Superb class try from Radlinski though.

We have so much to take away from this season.

I'm glad Saints have NOTHING.



You see, this is what always happens isn't it! saints have been brilliant for the last however many seasons, with wigan having a bit of a rough patch after their time dominating everything. They do well against the odds once, and saints don't quite do so well, and all of a sudden it's thrown in our faces! Grow up! Saints have the experience of the last season, and Ian Milward said before the play offs that we wouldn't win, and to be fair, with the way we were playing, and the way wigan were playing we had no chance, nor did we deserve to.

the thing is though, I would have been quite happy for wigan to win and see the cup in lancashire, but I seem to remember a certain saints bradford match that a bunch of wiganers turned up to. what colours were they sporting? the bradford ones of course.

and fine, wigan were finalists. but what did they win this season? NOTHING! but I am not glad of that, and think they deserved something.

and YOU get your facts straight mr fish.

Wigan breached the salary cap for at least the first FIVE years because 'the players were already in contract'.

and as for pryce, you have to look at both sides: O'Connor goes high every time, and how did stankevitch break his collar bone? was it a wigan player leading with the knee?

but oh yeah, wigan have won one cup that saints never have: the second division championship! :P

lynchie
20.10.2003, 10:20
Well since this all seems to be very friendly i'll have a quick rant! Living about 5 minutes from old trafford my street was packed full of cars and rubbish was left all over the place! Even the football fans don't cause that much mess!

Also, well done Bradford, a very well deserved win.

Fishsta
20.10.2003, 20:15
and YOU get your facts straight mr fish.

Wigan breached the salary cap for at least the first FIVE years because 'the players were already in contract'.

and as for pryce, you have to look at both sides: O'Connor goes high every time, and how did stankevitch break his collar bone? was it a wigan player leading with the knee?

but oh yeah, wigan have won one cup that saints never have: the second division championship! :P

And you get your facts straight, Neiltwist.

Wigan worked within the rules stipulated. Any Super League team could have done the same.

We didn't break ANY rules. We had contracts we had to honour, other teams did too. Strange how everyone just thinks of Wigan when this comes up.

Anyway, Wigan got the most players in the Super League Dream team, Saints got... erm... none... AND we got young player of the year.

Like I said, Bradford deserved to win, but Pryce deserves a hefty fine and ban.

http://www.fishsta.co.uk/dirtpryce.jpg

Heather
20.10.2003, 21:32
Oh dear....getting a bit heated!!!!!
It sounds very reminiscent of a conversation I once had with a Salford fan!



Heather (Swinton RLFC fan!)

Fishsta
21.10.2003, 00:20
It's an emotive subject :)

aimee_euph
21.10.2003, 00:21
Strange how everyone just thinks of Wigan when this comes up.

i'm not going to argue an argue over this but the reason why people think of wigan is because they broke the salary cap twice, whether it be because of contracts etc. you still broke it.



Anyway, Wigan got the most players in the Super League Dream team, Saints got... erm... none... AND we got young player of the year.

But, Wigan have diddly squat as do Saints so neither teams have anything to be ahead of the other. Except perhaps the minor premiership results but at they end of the day, they do not account for anything.


Like I said, Bradford deserved to win, but Pryce deserves a hefty fine and ban.

it's annoying that his court case only had a verdict
AFTER the Grand Final. He should be locked up, he should :evil:

neiltwist
21.10.2003, 00:57
And you get your facts straight, Neiltwist.

Wigan worked within the rules stipulated. Any Super League team could have done the same.

We didn't break ANY rules. We had contracts we had to honour, other teams did too. Strange how everyone just thinks of Wigan when this comes up.

i didn't say you broke the rules, just that you breached the cap, you would have been penalised had you broke the 'rules', oh but wait a minute, we were punished although we didn't break the 'rules', funny that.


Anyway, Wigan got the most players in the Super League Dream team, Saints got... erm... none... AND we got young player of the year.

good for you, all our players are injured, and we seem to be buying in oldies for some reason.


Like I said, Bradford deserved to win, but Pryce deserves a hefty fine and ban.

quite right, but so then in that case do many wigan, saints, leeds and bradford players. You can't apply one rule to one player and one to the others.



Wigan have had a great season, congratulatons, but at the end of the day, you got no more or less than saints did this season, and which team is it who have won the superleague three times, when before the latest grand final the next best performng team had only won once? Saints perhaps?

I don't like arguments, but when comments such as "I'm glad saints got nothing this season", when the team being supported in it's place also got nothing, occur, I tend to get a little irritated. If it's a case of lets see who can get the pettiest point over the other, then i don't want to know.

Straightmute
21.10.2003, 01:48
Steady on, guys. One of the many great things about RL is the sharp but ultimately good humoured banter between sides. Nowhere is this felt more strongly than between Wigan and St Helens. We love to hate you. And that's fantastic. When they start segregating rival fans and when we need a police escort to get to the ground, I'll not bother, thanks.

If either team was really that bad, on or off the pitch, the rivalry wouldn't exist, and we'd all lose out. This season has gone Wigan's way, and if all the Saints fans said 'well that's ok, the best side won' then everyone from the right side of Billinge would miss out on a lot of fun at St Helens' expense, but we should all accept that next season it may be different.

I stood on the terraces at Central Park the season when Wigan were relegated to the second division (I was very young!!!) but I've also seen the highest of high points - seasons when Wigan didn't lose a single game. Beating St Helens is crucially important, and I suspect that beating Wigan will be high on Saints' agenda next season - but it isn't going to happen. 8)

Yours in bitter friendliness and friendly bitterness.

D

neiltwist
21.10.2003, 02:10
Steady on, guys. One of the many great things about RL is the sharp but ultimately good humoured banter between sides. Nowhere is this felt more strongly than between Wigan and St Helens. We love to hate you. And that's fantastic. When they start segregating rival fans and when we need a police escort to get to the ground, I'll not bother, thanks.

If either team was really that bad, on or off the pitch, the rivalry wouldn't exist, and we'd all lose out. This season has gone Wigan's way, and if all the Saints fans said 'well that's ok, the best side won' then everyone from the right side of Billinge would miss out on a lot of fun at St Helens' expense, but we should all accept that next season it may be different.

I stood on the terraces at Central Park the season when Wigan were relegated to the second division (I was very young!!!) but I've also seen the highest of high points - seasons when Wigan didn't lose a single game. Beating St Helens is crucially important, and I suspect that beating Wigan will be high on Saints' agenda next season - but it isn't going to happen. 8)

Yours in bitter friendliness and friendly bitterness.

D

bravo! I agree :D

Straightmute
21.10.2003, 15:51
I suspect that beating Wigan will be high on Saints' agenda next season - but it isn't going to happen. 8)


bravo! I agree :D

Glad to hear that. You're starting to see sense!

D

Fishsta
21.10.2003, 20:14
LOL!

Maybe we should start looking to the future, especially the upcoming ashes series...

neiltwist
21.10.2003, 21:22
I suspect that beating Wigan will be high on Saints' agenda next season - but it isn't going to happen. 8)


bravo! I agree :D

Glad to hear that. You're starting to see sense!

D

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