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Fridge
28.03.2006, 18:33
Does anybody have programme notes on Gilbert Vinters Spectrum?? Or any information on Vinter himself.

Need information for a university project. Any help would be greatfully recieved

Many thanks

Fridge

brasscrest
28.03.2006, 18:56
Short bio here (http://movies2.nytimes.com/gst/movies/filmography.html?p_id=348637&mod=bio)

Anno Draconis
28.03.2006, 19:38
I did a dissertation on original band music for my degree, one chapter was on Vinter - mostly The Trumpets but there is a bit about Spectrum in there. If you pm your email address I'll send you a copy to look through if it would help. Bear in mind I wrote it in 1994 so some bits of it are a bit out of date.

Hornblower RN
29.03.2006, 11:24
Some information on GV here http://www.hornplayer.net/archive/a130.html incidentally he was the uncle of one of my sales directors I worked for back in the 80s. Apparently GV lived for some time down in Cornwall and would retire to a room and come out a couple of days later with a score completely finished. This info came out during an assessment of me.

James Yelland
29.03.2006, 11:27
I did a dissertation on original band music for my degree..If you pm your email address I'll send you a copy to look throug

Aren't university students supposed to do their own research??!!

PeterBale
29.03.2006, 11:38
Aren't university students supposed to do their own research??!!

I think it's a question of whether you go back to the original sources or use later references which have since become available ;)

brassneck
29.03.2006, 23:34
Keith Wilkinson, a friend of Gilbert Vinter wrote this about Spectrum on the sleeve of the 1983 GUS Band LP of the same name ...

"In Spectrum Gilbert Vinter aims to portray in sound the colours of the rainbow. After a short but arresting opening we range from a forceful red through a leisurely orange, light hearted yellow, gentle green, lively blue, boisterous indigo to sinister purple. It is interesting that Vinter chose to use the word purple rather than the more traditional violet and as the music here is associated with death rather than the purple of kings we are led to speculate that Vinter may have been anticipating his own passing which happened only a few months later."

Anglo Music Press
30.03.2006, 15:47
If you don't mind shelling out for a CD, we recorded all his BB works on the Polyphonic label (over two CDs). These have notes on the piece and a biography by his son.

PeterBale
30.03.2006, 17:57
"Here then, was the complete musician - talented player, fine conductor and adjudicator and composer of such forward looking merit that niot only we in the brass band world, but music generally will be much the poorer for his passing." Harry Mortimer, writing in British Bandsman, 13th Oct 1969, eight days after Gilbert Vinter's death aged 60.

Other snippets of background include his early training as a chorister at Lincoln Cathedral, his enlistment at the age of 15 in the Lincolnshire Regiment, leading to his studying bassoon and cello at Kneller Hall. Studied bassoon & composition at the Royal Academy of Music & began professional career as a bassoonist with the BBC Wind Orchestra, as well as becoming Professor at the RAM. Service in the RAF during the war, bandmaster of the Flying Training Command and RAF Regiment Bands.

Amongst other conducting jobs, Gilbert Vinter conducted the BBC Midland Light Orchestra in the original recording of the theme music for "The Archers", "Barwick Green".

Fridge
30.03.2006, 18:12
Thanks everybody for your help. I think I now have what I need!!!!!


Cheers


Fridge

brassneck
30.03.2006, 21:33
If you don't mind shelling out for a CD, we recorded all his BB works on the Polyphonic label (over two CDs). These have notes on the piece and a biography by his son.

- this the Fairey's/Parkes recordings? Not a lot of info. on Spectrum though ... Just mentions that it was considered the most modern of his works and was withdrawn from the 1968 Nationals when 'John O'Gaunt' was used for the Open. It was first used at the 1969 Open. His son, Dr. Andrew Vinter said that the piece left him speechless and devastated. His father was a little surprised of his reaction as it was the one that received the most criticism! Not much about the music though!

- a little more info. ...

'Spectrum' (1969, Open), caused a major uproar due to its use of discords and striking rhythms, but is today a standard test piece, still used by many. The work consists of 7 sections, each representing a different colour of the spectrum, and uses percussion instruments that were previously not allowed in contests. This includes bongos, claves, woodblock, tambourine, triangle, cymbal, side drum, and bass drum.
http://www.brassbandstuff.co.uk/history/brass-bands-1950-1980-1.php

- and just a wee bit more ...
Spectrum by Gilbert Vinter conducted by WB Hargreaves (1974)
The 1960s are now seen as a cross-roads in the development of brass band music, and Gilbert Vinter, composer of two works on the first of three Legacy CDs, as a link between traditional band music and developments since 1970. Spectrum, one of his last works, was completed only months before his death from cancer in 1969. It is his most advanced composition, but though regarded by some as outrageously modern at the time, it quickly became established as mainstream repertoire. In it, Vinter painted a sound-picture of the colours of the spectrum, with a significant change. He named the colours as red, yellow, green, blue, indigo, and purple - the change from violet being interpreted by some commentators as a reference to his impending death. The Introduction takes the form of a chromatic ascent from the bottom of the band to the top, where shimmering light gives way to a fiery portrayal of Red. This is followed by a rather exotic Orange, a playful interpretation of Yellow and a peaceful, pastoral Green, with its important soprano cornet solo. Blue is represented by a powerful theme featuring upper cornets, after which a waltz depicting Indigo leads to the soul of the work, a pulsating and almost frightening Purple. The short Coda refers back to the Introduction. RN (Roy Newsome). http://www.stanshawe.fsnet.co.uk/legacy_cd_one.htm

James Yelland
31.03.2006, 08:30
- this the Fairey's/Parkes recordings? Not a lot of info. on Spectrum though ... Just mentions that it was considered the most modern of his works and was withdrawn from the 1968 Nationals when 'John O'Gaunt' was used for the Open. It was first used at the 1969 Open. His son, Dr. Andrew Vinter said that the piece left him speechless and devastated. His father was a little surprised of his reaction as it was the one that received the most criticism! Not much about the music though!

- a little more info. ... http://www.brassbandstuff.co.uk/history/brass-bands-1950-1980-1.php

- and just a wee bit more ... http://www.stanshawe.fsnet.co.uk/legacy_cd_one.htm

Are you sure you wouldn't like to write Mr Fridge's project for him?!

brassneck
31.03.2006, 08:58
Are you sure you wouldn't like to write Mr Fridge's project for him?!

- every little helps! ;)

GingerMaestro
31.03.2006, 09:51
I'm not sure if this helps but I found it on a website it looks like a set of programme notes

Spectrum (Gilbert Vinter)

Of all of the Gilbert Vinter's brass band works, none was more disparaged at its creation than this one, and none has found more admirers during the ensuing years. Its title was a bold assertion on the composer's part that, within the apparent monochrome of the brass band score there lay a previously undiscovered wealth of color. His very great influence on the scoring of the past thirty years is proof that he was right. The colors of Vinter's personal Spectrum - interestingly all but the first - are listed in the score. Their discovery is best left, though, to the listener; especially as simply listening to this remarkable score as music rather than as color, may bring the realization that there is structure under the paint. Another classic of brass band literature.

See what you think

Lucas
13.04.2014, 17:14
I did a dissertation on original band music for my degree, one chapter was on Vinter - mostly The Trumpets but there is a bit about Spectrum in there. If you pm your email address I'll send you a copy to look through if it would help. Bear in mind I wrote it in 1994 so some bits of it are a bit out of date.

Hi, could I possibly get a copy too? I'm writing an essay on Spectrum and so far google has failed me! My email is lucas-1@hotmail.co.uk Thanks a lot!