Official tMP West of England Regional Thread 2006

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Saturaday 18th March
Riveria International Conference Centre, Torquay

The Forum

3rd Section - Split draw : 9.00am & 11.00am, starts 10.00am
Adjudicators : Geoffrey Whitham & Denis Wilby

Bratton (M Winter) - Bugle (D Pope) - Calne (TBC) - Cambourne B (Alan Pope) - Corsham (TBC) - Denmead (J Hill) - Downton (R Wright) - Gillingham Imperial Silver (E Haines) - Launceston Town (G Lannie) - Pillowell (B Howard) - South Molton Town (D Tilling) - St Pinnock (P Minear) - Totnes (I Wilkinson) - Wotton and District (D Grant)

The Arena

2nd Section - Split draw : 10.30am & 12.30pm, starts 11.30am
Adjudicators : Alan Morrison & Steve Pritchard-Jones

Bath Spa ( D Baker) - Bendix Kingswood (P Uzzell) - Bristol East (B Pope) - Filton Concert (B James) - Heyl Town (D Johnstone) - Lympstone South West Telecoms (C Fleming) - Michelmersh (TBC) - Ocean (N Grace) - Phoenix (Crewe Kerne) (M Knapton) - Portishead Town (TBC) - Shrewton (M Dunford) - Soundhouse (D Stevens) - St Dennis (B Minear) - St Stythians ( D Johnston) - Torbay (TBC)
Weston-Super-Mare (P Nutt)

The Forum

1st Section - Draw : 2.15pm, starts 3.30pm
Adjudicators : Geoffrey Whitham & Denis Wilby

Chalford (S Tubb) - Cinderford (D Lea) - Forest of Dean (J Gwynne) - Helston Town (TBC) - Hyde (J Camps) - Lydbrook (J Berryman) - Lydmet Lydney (T Cooper) - Otterbourne (Lt C C Davies) - Poole Borough (D Randell) - Solent Concert (W Garner) - St Keverne (D Greenwood) - Swindon Pegasus (J Winterford) - Woodfalls Concert (S Dunster)

Sunday 19th March

The Forum

4th Section - Split draw : 8.00am & 10.00am
Adjudicators : Alan Morrison & Steve Pritchard-Jones

AW Parker (Drybrook) (K White) - Bideford Town (G Taylor) - Bream (H Cole) - Brixham Town (B Cole) - Chalford Academy (S Tubbs) - Cheltenham (J Button) - Constantine (K Anderson) - Gosport (D Jones) - Hatherleigh (A Edwards) - Midsomer Norton & Radstock (S Lewins) - Nailsworth (W Thomas) - New forest (I Luxford) - Okehampton Excelsior (D Law) - Pendennis (Famlouth) (G Cotrell) - Portleven Town (A Harvey) - Saltash Town (R Julian) - Shaftesbury Town (S Hawkes) - Shanklin Town (M Lewis) - Sidmouth Town (A Harvey) - Swindon (F Cowley) - Tewkesbury Town (N Morgan) - Torrington (T Hutchings) - Verwood Concert (D Marshall) - Watchet Royal British Legion (D Tilling) - Weymouth Concert (A Davies) - Wilton and District (D Chalk) - Wincanton (J Sykes)

Championship Section - Draw : 3.00pm, starts 4.30pm
Adjudicators : Geoffrey Whitham

Aldbourne (S Sykes) - Bodmin Town (K Mackenzie) - Bournemouth Concert (L Vertommen) - Cambourne Town (F Renton) - City of Bristol (B James) - Lanner and District (S Chappell) - Mount Charles (Dr N Childs) - Polysteel (P Harper) - Sherborne Town (P Cosh) - St Austell Town (D Loukes) - SWT Woodfalls (G Cutt) - Yeovil Town (D Barringer)

Source : British Bandsman

[Chris Hicks]

2 weeks today!! :biggrin: Yay can't wait is going to be well fun!!

[meandmycornet]

I'm so jealous of the yorkshire peoples! They get they're contest already! We have a whole two weeks left yet! Although having said that.... we haven't had a full band at rehearsal yet.... what with snow.... illness.... working and many more wonderful excuses! Hopefully the last two weeks will be good rehearsals :D We are looking forward to doing fairly well this year, and the test piece is really coming along :D some bits are sounding fantastic! I'M SO EXCITED!!

[DaveR]

I'M SO EXCITED!!

But you are doing a great job of hiding it! ;) :tongue:

Good luck to everyone in the WoE - I was hoping to come down and listen because I've got quite a few friends playing for different bands over the weekend, but the London regional is on the same weekend. :(

[DublinBass]

2 weeks today!! :biggrin: Yay can't wait is going to be well fun!!

I share your sentiments and am looking forward to having a good go at Voyage of Discovery!!

[Bigenglandfan]

I'm so jealous of the yorkshire peoples! They get they're contest already! We have a whole two weeks left yet!

Oh the youth of today, you've never had it so good!!;)

I remember, when I was a lad,(long time ago), we had to wait 8 weeks or more between the Yorkshire area and then our own. They would play in early Feb, and we would be way out in the middle of April. I remember those same feelings that you have now, except 2 months was an awfully long time to wait.

[meandmycornet]

:O oh my goodness! I feel so sorry for you! that really would be awful! two weeks is two long, two months would be torture! :tongue:

[Liz Courts]

YAY! Less than two weeks to go! I'm so excited, my first ever area contest (that I'm playing in), and I've been playing for eleven years!! Plus I get to go for the whole weekend again! I hope it's as good as last year...! :clap: :biggrin: :biggrin:

Good luck to everyone by the way! (Just in case I forget to say it nearer the time!) :)

[Liz Loftus]

We are playing Saturday morning but thinking of staying for the whole weekend, that is myself, hubby & I suppose we had better include meandmycornet. anybody know of any reasonably priced decent hotels close to the Riviera Centre?

On a slightly different subject, South Molton is sounding well, not had a full rehearsal yet, but that is nothing out of the ordinary, we have a number of shift workers in the band. Our solo euph has left to conduct Bideford - our 2nd Euph is also brill so has moved up, and the one that left is playing 2nd. We also lost our principal cornet a few weeks ago - but have found a fantastic stand in :biggrin: . Had a shifty round in the horn section so I could play 2nd - due to my poorly tum. Fantastic BBflat bass player called Bob has joined us which has meant one of the others could bolster the trom section. So altogether coming along nicely.:tup

see you all there & good luck!

[Red Elvis]

Best wishes to all the boys and girls of Lympstone band - sat in on a rehearsalof theirs back in October , a great bunch !

[sugarandspice]

Best wishes to all the boys and girls of Lympstone band - sat in on a rehearsalof theirs back in October , a great bunch !

Ooooh thats me!

I'm really looking forward to next weekend! It's going to be great! and it will be good to stay over! Anyone up for going out in Torquay on saturday night?!

Best of luck to all the cornish bands! :)

[Chris Hicks]

We are playing Saturday morning but thinking of staying for the whole weekend, that is myself, hubby & I suppose we had better include meandmycornet. anybody know of any reasonably priced decent hotels close to the Riviera Centre?

Don't know whether Fi told you about our conversation on msn about hotels but if she didn't ask her about it with chrissy from portishead :biggrin:

[meandmycornet]

I did tell her about that hotel Chrissy :tongue: but obviously she wasn't paying any attention or had her ears closed or summat! :tongue: LESS THAN A WEEK NOW :D wooooooooo! :D (ooooh and we had a nearly full band rehearsal today! :D)

[kevthedrummer]

Whoo in the final week Now..... COMMMME ON LANNER !!!!!!! :tup
See u all in the bar....
Kev

[Snowman]

Where are all the West of England TMP'ers let's get this thread going, I thought we were a social bunch judging by the normal ratio of bods in the bar to listening in the Hall LOL. I would like to wish Jezzer and Portishead Good Luck in the 2nd section

[Liz Loftus]

2 more rehearsals to go & sounding good - don't want to put the kiss of death on it though - and we can still improve!! horns are sounding fab, yes you can hear us!! :biggrin: I think its my lovely reconditioned horn making all the difference!!!!
May need to borrow a solo Eflat bass (hope not cos ours is brill!!) & Fi's woken up with spots on her chest and back ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!

Fi (hopefully minus spots)& I will be in the bar - look out for the black South Molton polo shirts - just realised, I'd better check that my trousers still fit, haven't worn them since my op & I've put loads of weight on!!!:eek:

Good luck to all the North Devon Bands: Torrington, Bideford, Hatherleigh and of course good luck to Charlie & Lympstone. Must also mention Watchet - I'm sure their horns are brill too!!!:tup (I'll ask Dave tonight ;) )

[DaveR]

& Fi's woken up with spots on her chest and back ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!
Poor old Fi!! Hope it is nothing serious (chicken pox, measles etc!! :(). It would be a shame to have to miss the areas when she has been looking forward to it for weeks! :( Get well soon! (And good luck at the areas!)

[meandmycornet]

I've already had chicken pox.... when I was about 4 :tongue: I don't think I'm on death door.... but I don't feel 100% ... on the plus side.... the spots on my tummy seem too be going down.... the ones on my back haven't though :tongue:

[DaveR]

I've already had chicken pox.... when I was about 4 :tongue: I don't think I'm on death door.... but I don't feel 100% ... on the plus side.... the spots on my tummy seem too be going down.... the ones on my back haven't though :tongue:

That's OK then, I'm glad to hear it! Just keep going until the weekend... :tongue:

[Chris Hicks]

Where are all the West of England TMP'ers let's get this thread going, I thought we were a social bunch judging by the normal ratio of bods in the bar to listening in the Hall LOL. I would like to wish Jezzer and Portishead Good Luck in the 2nd section

Thank you!! :biggrin: I'll mention it to him you said!
I can't wait now is going to be great, the band are playing well and it's sounding good so should be fun!!
Chris

[Liz Courts]

Good luck to all the North Devon Bands: Torrington, Bideford, Hatherleigh and of course good luck to Charlie & Lympstone. Must also mention Watchet - I'm sure their horns are brill too!!!:tup (I'll ask Dave tonight ;) )

Yay! Thank you!! Good luck to you guys too. Not long to go now, I'm so excited! :biggrin:

[Rapier]

Must also mention Watchet - I'm sure their horns are brill too!!!:tup (I'll ask Dave tonight ;) )


The Horns are fine, it's the Flugel that's the trouble! How do you play the damned thing in tune??

[GingerMaestro]

We've all seen the chart for who we all think will win at Torquay but lets get it in writing

I'll Start

1. St Keverne
2. Lydmet Lydney
3. Lydbrook
4. Forest of Dean
5. Solent Concert
6. Swindon Pegasus

What do you think

[Sop_Or_Bass?]

Just 3 more rehearsals to go and there is a 'bug' in the band room :mad: - Hope that the blight of chest infections subside before Saturday!! Shame after all this work has gone in and that we have a full band :D

Looking forward to the weekend - Brilliant that we are able to contest again at the areas after not being able to last year.

Good luck to all the Gloucestershire bands, esp. Polysteel, Tewkesbury & the Forest bands, of which there are four of us in the 1st section! - Cinderford, Forest of Dean Brass, Lydbrook & Lydney. The locals must be enjoying VoD as much as we are with that number of bands rehearsing it - what will they listen to next week? !!

[Rebel Tuba]

.... but what I want to know is why all the fuss about the 2nd section piece, Images of a mellenium. What are the problems that all the good 2nd section bands are struggling with.

If its played as written (and there are not that many tricky bits for any instrumentation), not rushed, then why are there sooooo many problems.

[GingerMaestro]

Just 3 more rehearsals to go and there is a 'bug' in the band room :mad: - Hope that the blight of chest infections subside before Saturday!! Shame after all this work has gone in and that we have a full band :D

Looking forward to the weekend - Brilliant that we are able to contest again at the areas after not being able to last year.

Good luck to all the Gloucestershire bands, esp. Polysteel, Tewkesbury & the Forest bands, of which there are four of us in the 1st section! - Cinderford, Forest of Dean Brass, Lydbrook & Lydney. The locals must be enjoying VoD as much as we are with that number of bands rehearsing it - what will they listen to next week? !!

C'mon the Glosterrrrrr Boys (and Girls)

Lets take a voyage of discovery on a journey to the Centre of the Earth and have a look at the Images of the Millennium in Sunny Torquay

[Rebel Tuba]

..... or lets just talk about chicken pox, black T-Shirts and prove to the rest of the banding world that the WoE region is just full of boring carrot-crunching yokels.

C'MON get enthusiastic

[Liz Loftus]

or lets just talk about chicken pox, black T-Shirts and prove to the rest of the banding world that the WoE region is just full of boring carrot-crunching yokels.

How Rude!!!:eek:

Following on from Ginger Maestro
3rd section:
Background info for those not familiar with bands in this neck of the woods:
Based on the results from SWABBA contest
1. Pillowell
2. St Pinnock
3. South Molton
bring the bands from Cornwall etc into the equation and its anyones guess! Thats one of the problems with the huge geographical nature of this region, its rare the same bands compete against each other. Added to that the nature of banding up one minute down the next, let alone whacky adjudications its difficult predict who's going to finish where!

In the table though Gillingham are streets ahead followed by South Molton :biggrin: then several other bands in close succession.

My prediction then:
1. Cambourne B
2. Pillowell
3. Gillingham
4. Corsham
5. St Pinnick
6. South Molton (but don't rule us out ;) its sounding great!!)

Entertainments is a great test for the 3rd section though so in all it should be an interesting day!:tup

Wouldn't like to be in the box for the 4th secion though and the acoustics could make the 2nd section equally as much a lottery! Any guesses?

[GingerMaestro]

..... or lets just talk about chicken pox, black T-Shirts and prove to the rest of the banding world that the WoE region is just full of boring carrot-crunching yokels.




speak for yourself Rebel Carrot Crunching Tuba

[GingerMaestro]

What about the 4th section

1. Drybrook
2. Bream
3. Verwood Concert
4. Wincanton

The rest is a lottery

Good luck to Mr Morrison and Mr Pritchard -Jones Having to try and sort that out

[GingerMaestro]

Eh Up I see MattEarl is in the room

I should have said before

C'mon Cheltenham I'll give them 5th and Tewkesbury 6th or is that 26th who knows :-)

[BryonySnell]

Any thoughts on predictions for 2nd section?
I've decided i can't comment as i'm in it.
So let's hear it........!!:p

[GingerMaestro]

Any thoughts on predictions for 2nd section?
I've decided i can't comment as i'm in it.
So let's hear it........!!:p

1. Portishead Town
2. Lympstone South West Telecoms
3. Bristol East
4. St Stythians

[Rebel Tuba]

1. Portishead Town
2. Lympstone South West Telecoms
3. Bristol East
4. St Stythians

Yeah i'd go with those top 3, not sure about the order though.

There are some big name bands in section 2, with some good previous pedigree, however, the bad times have hit 'em over the last few years.

Good luck to all

[Lisa]

2nd section:
1st: Lympstone (Also randomly met Lympstone's conductor in the queue for KFC in Bradford so I think they will do well!)
2nd: St. Dennis
3rd: Portishead

4th Section: I'm hoping that Wincanton and Shaftesbury band will do well seeing as they are the two most local bands to Gillingham, both being 10 minutes down the road. (Obviously I wouldn't want them to do quite so well if they were in the same section as us though! ;) ) It is also Shaftesbury's first time competing in the areas for a few years.

3rd Section: Well obviously want my band to be the best here seeing as I am in them! :p But I remember Camborne B were very good last year and also were a very young band so I think they may do very well. Corsham have been doing ok recently too and have only just gone down to 3rd section so I think they may do ok too!

[Rebel Tuba]

Is this a new prerequisit for winning an area contest???


2nd section:
1st: Lympstone (Also randomly met Lympstone's conductor in the queue for KFC in Bradford so I think they will do well!)

[Lisa]

Is this a new prerequisit for winning an area contest???
Absolutely! :p

(But seriously, they seem to be doing well recently and have some good players which is why I predict them 1st...)

[Rebel Tuba]

Absolutely! :p

(But seriously, they seem to be doing well recently and have some good players which is why I predict them 1st...)

Good luck john reeves and the Lympstone boys and gals

[Kiz7]

What about the 4th section

1. Drybrook
2. Bream
3. Verwood Concert
4. Wincanton

The rest is a lottery

Good luck to Mr Morrison and Mr Pritchard -Jones Having to try and sort that out

Thanks for the vote of confidence Martin, but I don't think the first four placings are a forgone conclusion - I think it all will be a lottery. Most bands can play it well, but I am sure all with struggle to play ALL of it well ALL the way through and catch the adjudicator's ear. Both Bream and Drybrook will have their work cut out given what part of the draw they are in (can't say any more obviously)

Good luck to everyone taking part!

[Kiz7]

1st section predicitions

1st Lydbrook (now in 4barsrest rankings you know! Also have got a tidy band around the stand - including sveral of the Sykes family - and have been doing a lot of work)
2nd Hyde
3rd St Keverne
4th Swindon
5th Forest of Dean or Cinderford

Would like to see Lydmet Lydney, Cinderford, Forest Brass and Lydbrook all do well but think the best chance for a Gloucestershier qualifier in this section is Lydbrook

[The_Eighth_Dwarf]

As I'm not playing in it this year I'll have a guess at the top 3 for each section without any bias.

Champ:
Polysteel
Mount Charles
Cambourne

1st:
Cinderford
Lydney
Hyde

2nd:
St Denis
Torbay
Portishead

3rd:
Gillingham
Corsham
Pillowell

4th:
Verwood
Drybrook
Swindon

[BryonySnell]

Good luck john reeves and the Lympstone boys and gals
Cheers you rebel!;)
Good to see we do rate in some people predictions.
Not sure about whether a meeting in KFC will sway it for us, but you never know. I'll be telling him off for eating badly!!!
Good luck to everyone playing at the weekend, i have a feeling it's going to be a good one.:biggrin:

[the fish]

Best of luck to Phil Harper & Polysteel, hope the winning streak continues!

[meandmycornet]

..... or lets just talk about chicken pox, black T-Shirts and prove to the rest of the banding world that the WoE region is just full of boring carrot-crunching yokels.

C'MON get enthusiastic
How mean :( your not very nice are you? :(

I was being enthusiastic but then I got spots and poorlyness :( ..... I still am very exctied though so there! :tongue:

And were not carrot crunching yokels either! MEANIE!! :tongue:

P.S. your brave!! I hope you don't bump into mother in the bar!!!

[IanHeard]

..... or lets just talk about chicken pox, black T-Shirts and prove to the rest of the banding world that the WoE region is just full of boring carrot-crunching yokels.

C'MON get enthusiastic

Rebel Tuba,
You`ll have to forgive us, you Bristol Boys are so cosmopolitan and sophisticated in comparison to us! :)
Ian H.
North Prospect Concert Brass.
`Up the Swilly!`

[Jan H]

Good luck this weekend to all the bands of course, but especially to Bournmouth Concert Brass with their Belgian conductor, Luc Vertommen! A great opportunity for Luc to show his talents in the UK!

[Cyndy]

Good luck to Cheltenham Silver 4th section 1st area contest in years, they have put the work in, and it's sounding pretty tasty too :clap:

[Cyndy]

Pillowell are up for it, with Jason Glynn in the middle, can't wait for Saturday.:woo

[supersplit]

Good Luck to all in the 4th Section!

[bassbone]

Good luck this weekend to all the bands of course, but especially to Bournmouth Concert Brass with their Belgian conductor, Luc Vertommen! A great opportunity for Luc to show his talents in the UK!

Thanks Jan.

BCB are having a great time working with Luc. I just wish he would not insist on speaking in Flemish all the time! (only joking - his English is better than mine!)

Good luck to the bands taking part this coming weekend and to all the bass troms in the championship section hope you are all enjoying Y - Z as much as I am :confused:

[PeterBale]

Thank you!! :biggrin: I'll mention it to him you said!
I can't wait now is going to be great, the band are playing well and it's sounding good so should be fun!!
Chris

All the best for the weekend, Chris - and your dad with Polysteel :clap:

[GingerMaestro]

Good Luck to Bristol East and Barry (get your hair cut) Pope

and good luck to the other bristol band CoBBB enjoy the journey:biggrin:
Only joking Good Luck City of Bristol Bristol's No1

[David Pegram]

Good luck to big Dave Jones and Cinderford.Don't forget all i taught you Dave.

[sugarandspice]

Absolutely! :p

(But seriously, they seem to be doing well recently and have some good players which is why I predict them 1st...)

:) Why thank you very much, great to see some good reports coming in for the band, and it's good to see you've not been put off by meeting charlie in the queue for KFC! hee hee everyone is working really hard in the band, which is all we can really hope for, its going to be a great day, and just to keep a certain man with a fondness for chickens happy i need to say : FOCUS!! :) :) (you know who you are! and i'm sure you'll be showing yourself soon!!)

[Podgypickle]

Hello all,

Good luck everyone for this weekend looking forward to bumping into a few old faces and meeting a few new ones!!!!

Especially good to see my old band Lydmet Lydney back on the contesting scene, well done guys and hopefully see you down there......Neil you hanging round till the sunday???

Tara and loadsa luck people

[Rebel Tuba]

Good Luck to Bristol East and Barry (get your hair cut) Pope

and good luck to the other bristol band CoBBB enjoy the journey:biggrin:
Only joking Good Luck City of Bristol Bristol's No1

Yep I second that, good luck to Bristol East, Bendix and filton for this weekend, we'll make Yorkshire bands of ya yet.

Sorry GingerM but I believe COBB have withdrawn due to ??lack of numbers?? cos if there is one thing I know about COBBB if they would have had a full band they would have given it a shot.

[Rebel Tuba]

How mean :( your not very nice are you? :(

I was being enthusiastic but then I got spots and poorlyness :( ..... I still am very exctied though so there! :tongue:

And were not carrot crunching yokels either! MEANIE!! :tongue:

P.S. your brave!! I hope you don't bump into mother in the bar!!!

Now c'mon MeandMy, I'm a loverly chap, I'm sorry you got spots, and 'm glad your excited. (no comment about the carrot crunching!!). And if I bump into "mother" in the bar mines a rather large Southern Comfort.

Good luck to you and your band (which is and I shall try and listen), I hope you do enjoy it.


You see the rest of ya, at least MeandMy has some spirit and fight, thats whats needed in the WoE not nicey wicey, pamsey Namsey blooming players.:eek: SHock

Rebel.......tells it as it is

[Sop_Or_Bass?]

Hello all,

Good luck everyone for this weekend looking forward to bumping into a few old faces and meeting a few new ones!!!!

Especially good to see my old band Lydmet Lydney back on the contesting scene, well done guys and hopefully see you down there......Neil you hanging round till the sunday???

Tara and loadsa luck people

Thanks Michelle

We sure are hanging around until Sunday, so should see you in the Riverarea.

Cheers

Neil

[Cornishwomble]

Good Luck to Woodfalls in the Championship section, St Keverne in the First and Pendennis in the 3rd!

I'm very interested in the second section where St Stythians and Hayle have the same conductor is taking them. I'm skeptical as to whether both bands can have had the same preparation and how it will affect their result

[Liz Loftus]

Now c'mon MeandMy, I'm a loverly chap, I'm sorry you got spots, and 'm glad your excited. (no comment about the carrot crunching!!). And if I bump into "mother" in the bar mines a rather large Southern Comfort.

Good luck to you and your band (which is and I shall try and listen), I hope you do enjoy it.


You see the rest of ya, at least MeandMy has some spirit and fight, thats whats needed in the WoE not nicey wicey, pamsey Namsey blooming players.:eek: SHock

Rebel.......tells it as it is

& mothers a loverly lass (northern lass that is!) Pamsey namsey.... pint of best bitter for me!!!!:biggrin:

As you're a bass player, South Molton would be well worth a listen - superb bass line up!! just signed up a name from the past... ex championship section....you'll have to come & listen now ;) . By the way we're in the 1st half of the draw - 3rd section! (oops hope I'm allowed to say that!!)

oh! and of course fab horn section - nothing girlie about us this year!!!

[Tris]

I'm very interested in the second section where St Stythians and Hayle have the same conductor is taking them. I'm skeptical as to whether both bands can have had the same preparation and how it will affect their result

You and me both! Sadly to the best of my knowledge Hayle has withdrawn this year. To be honest the system of sharing a conductor seems to work for us without too many problems, however you sometimes can't help yourself from wondering if one or the other band is getting more attention than the other. I would be interested to hear other people’s opinions on this though.

Tris http://www.themouthpiece.com/vb/images/icons/icon7.gif

Before i forget! Good luck to everyone at the weekend!.

[Rebel Tuba]

I've guested for South Molton on a few occasions myself during the 80s (pre marriage)

[sugarandspice]

You and me both! Sadly to the best of my knowledge Hayle has withdrawn this year. To be honest the system of sharing a conductor seems to work for us without too many problems, however you sometimes can't help yourself from wondering if one or the other band is getting more attention than the other. I would be interested to hear other people’s opinions on this though.

Tris http://www.themouthpiece.com/vb/images/icons/icon7.gif

Before i forget! Good luck to everyone at the weekend!.

As far as i am aware the condutor has made it clear which he classes as his 1st band and which he classes as his second band? That way everyone knows exactly where they stand, and afterall, a conductor is only one person? doesnt it come down to how much effort the band as a whole are prepared to put into it? He has done well with Hayle up until now, will be good to see how they get on now they are in the second section.

[Liz Loftus]

I've guested for South Molton on a few occasions myself during the 80s (pre marriage)

Excellent:tup Take it you've moved out of the area now?!?! If not, 2 of the bass players are 'part time' so theres a couple of spare seats. Many of the players playing in the 80's still play now, older & greyer - just a few foreigners from 'up north' joined - come & say hello!

Obviously hit a rough patch a few years back, but things are picking up & great to have Dave Tilling back at the healm in recent years :clap: Fingers crossed we can make the grade tommorrow!!! Hopefully some magic moments for the corner men & ladies and good solid playing!! It seems the expected struggle for 3rd sections band to cope with Entertainments isn't happening elsewhere. Think its going to be a close call for both Harrogate & promotion!

But, bring it on!!!! :biggrin: (is that enthusiastic enough!!!)

[Cornishwomble]

As far as i am aware the condutor has made it clear which he classes as his 1st band and which he classes as his second band? That way everyone knows exactly where they stand, and afterall, a conductor is only one person? doesnt it come down to how much effort the band as a whole are prepared to put into it? He has done well with Hayle up until now, will be good to see how they get on now they are in the second section.

I agree with that up to a point, and I am certainly not criticising the situation. I know in the past the 2 bands have been in different sections so maybe there was no clash of interests.

I think personally I would be a bit uncomfortable if I saw the guy who was taking me and my band to the areas giving more attention to a band who we were competeing against.

Like I said I'm not criticising I'm just interested in how it works and how the members of those bands feel

[Charmed]

I agree with that up to a point, and I am certainly not criticising the situation. I know in the past the 2 bands have been in different sections so maybe there was no clash of interests.

I think personally I would be a bit uncomfortable if I saw the guy who was taking me and my band to the areas giving more attention to a band who we were competeing against.

Like I said I'm not criticising I'm just interested in how it works and how the members of those bands feel

Have to agree with you here. Our conductor does take other bands, but in different areas ie Scotland last week, Wales this week. I don't think our band would allow him to take us and another band to the same contest, competing in the same section. I certainly wouldn't feel comfortable with it.

[BassBlaster]

The third section must have finished by now?. has anyone got the results??????????.

[BassBlaster]

11. Bratton Silver, M. Winter, 6, 167
6. Bugle Silver, David Pope, 14, 173
14. Calne Silver, Keith Webb, 3, 163
5. Camborne B, Alan Pope, 1, 174
10. Corsham, 12 , 168
7. Denmead Brass, J. Hill, 4, 171
12. Downton, Roland Wright, 13, 166
2. Gillingham Imperial Silver, Eric Haines, 11, 177
3. Launceston Town, Garrie Lannie, 10, 176
9. Pillowell Silver, Jason Glynn, 2, 169
1. St. Pinnock, Peter Minear, 9, 179
4. South Molton Town, David Tilling, 5, 175
8. Totnes, I. Wilkinson, 8, 170
13. Wooton under Edge and District Silver, Dennis Grant, 7, 165
All scrambled but quick, thanks to 4BR

[BassBlaster]

1. St. Pinnock, Peter Minear, 9, 179
2. Gillingham Imperial Silver, Eric Haines, 11, 177
3. Launceston Town, Garrie Lannie, 10, 176
4. South Molton Town, David Tilling, 5, 175
5. Camborne B, Alan Pope, 1, 174
6. Bugle Silver, David Pope, 14, 173
7. Denmead Brass, J. Hill, 4, 171
8. Totnes, I. Wilkinson, 8, 170
9. Pillowell Silver, Jason Glynn, 2, 169
10. Corsham, 12 , 168
11. Bratton Silver, M. Winter, 6, 167
12. Downton, Roland Wright, 13, 166
13. Wooton under Edge and District Silver, Dennis Grant, 7, 165
14. Calne Silver, Keith Webb, 3, 163
Thats better 4BR

[Charmed]

11. Bratton Silver, M. Winter, 6, 167
6. Bugle Silver, David Pope, 14, 173
14. Calne Silver, Keith Webb, 3, 163
5. Camborne B, Alan Pope, 1, 174
10. Corsham, 12 , 168
7. Denmead Brass, J. Hill, 4, 171
12. Downton, Roland Wright, 13, 166
2. Gillingham Imperial Silver, Eric Haines, 11, 177
3. Launceston Town, Garrie Lannie, 10, 176
9. Pillowell Silver, Jason Glynn, 2, 169
1. St. Pinnock, Peter Minear, 9, 179
4. South Molton Town, David Tilling, 5, 175
8. Totnes, I. Wilkinson, 8, 170
13. Wooton under Edge and District Silver, Dennis Grant, 7, 165
All scrambled but quick, thanks to 4BR

Clarification needed! Did Cambourne B win or St Pinnock???


Edit: Ok, have now seen further post

2nd Edit: Feel rather stupid now, could have worked it out from the points!

[bassinthebathroom]

Congratulations to Peter and St. Pinnock. I know he's been working hard with the band, so this is a great return for him! Also well done to my Mum, David and everyone at Bugle. 6th is a great leap up from 12th last year, and from what Mum said they didn't play all that well on stage, so who knows what could have happened with a 100% performance. Here's to getting back up through the sections! Well done! :clap:

[BassBlaster]

Well done the winners, I am still registered for Wooton, so a bit sad to see them down there, My other old bands, Lydney and Chalford play in the first section, so it will be interesting to see how they do. by the way, why does it say I have only done 6 posts, when I have been here since `03.

[imthemaddude]

Section 2:

Saturday 18th March
Adjudicator: Alan Morrison and Steve Pritchard Jones
Test Piece: Images of the Millennium – Howard Snell
Commences: 11.30am
Draw: Spilt at 10.30am and 12.30pm

Bands:

1. St. Dennis, Brian Minear, 9, 188
2. Lympstone South West Telecom, Charles Fleming, 6, 187
3. Soundhouse Brass (Plymouth), Denzil Stephens, 2, 186
4. Portishead Town, Ian Holmes, 11, 185
5. Ocean Brass, Nick Grace, 5 ,184
6. Michelmersh Silver, Melvin White, 13, 183
7. Shrewton Silver, Michael Dunford, 1, 182
8. Filton Concert Brass, Bryn James, 15, 181
9. Bath Spa, D. Baker, 12, 180
10. St. Stythians, Derek Johnston, 10, 179
11. Weston Super Mare Brass, Peter Nutt, 4, 178
12. Bristol East, Barry Pope, 3, 176
13. Phoenix Brass (Crewkerne), Kevin Darby, 7, 175
14. Torbay Brass, H. Evans, 8, 174
15. Bendix Kingswood, P. Uzzell, 14, 172

Hayle Town, Derek Johnston, w

4 barsrest

[imthemaddude]

Section 2:

Saturday 18th March
Adjudicator: Alan Morrison and Steve Pritchard Jones
Test Piece: Images of the Millennium – Howard Snell
Commences: 11.30am
Draw: Spilt at 10.30am and 12.30pm

Bands:

1. St. Dennis, Brian Minear, 9, 188
2. Lympstone South West Telecom, Charles Fleming, 6, 187
3. Soundhouse Brass (Plymouth), Denzil Stephens, 2, 186
4. Portishead Town, Ian Holmes, 11, 185
5. Ocean Brass, Nick Grace, 5 ,184
6. Michelmersh Silver, Melvin White, 13, 183
7. Shrewton Silver, Michael Dunford, 1, 182
8. Filton Concert Brass, Bryn James, 15, 181
9. Bath Spa, D. Baker, 12, 180
10. St. Stythians, Derek Johnston, 10, 179
11. Weston Super Mare Brass, Peter Nutt, 4, 178
12. Bristol East, Barry Pope, 3, 176
13. Phoenix Brass (Crewkerne), Kevin Darby, 7, 175
14. Torbay Brass, H. Evans, 8, 174
15. Bendix Kingswood, P. Uzzell, 14, 172

Hayle Town, Derek Johnston, w

4 barsrest

[DaveR]

Well done to the South Molton Band - especially tMP's meandmycornet and Liz Loftus! Great result!

[ChrisL]

Congratulations to all the Cornish bands playing on Saturday. First in all three sections, way to go! Special congrats to Helston well deserved and worth the last few disapointments. Good luck everybody for Sunday, how about a clean sweep?

[Redhorn]

Good luck to Derek and Gosport tomorrow at their first attempt at contesting!!

[Kayleigh]

Woohoo! Go St.Dennis... West Of England 2nd Section Champions! Its not actually sunk into me yet that we actually won! Was my 1st major contest on the end chair for the senior band to which is wkd. (Principal Cornet) Well done everyone else who took part. C some of ya at Harrogate! WOOHOO!!

[bassinthebathroom]

Congratulations to all the Cornish bands playing on Saturday. First in all three sections, way to go! Special congrats to Helston well deserved and worth the last few disapointments. Good luck everybody for Sunday, how about a clean sweep?

Indeed, well done to the three Cornish area champion bands! So then, best of luck Bodmin/Camborne/Lanner/Mount Charles/St. Austell and Pendennis/Porthleven/Saltash. A Cornish clean sweep? Fingers crossed...

[DublinBass]

Congrats to Lydney on a strong effort amongst there return to contest.

Also I 'd like to commend St. Keverne on a very fine performance!!

[Rapier]

Well done South Molton! Lets hope DT can get us that high up the results! (No higher though, don't want to go to Harrogate, too full of Northerners to be healthy!!) ;)

[AJSOP]

Harrogate here we come! wot a performance!

[Keith Lewis]

Congratulations to St Denis:clap: on a fine result, now go and win in the finals.
Well done to all of the bands who played Images, perhaps next year they will pick a test piece that is a fair challenge for all the bands in our section.

Well done to Michael and Shrewton on your 7th.

[vcbjet]

I have just heard that my old band Verwood have won the Fourth Section for the second year running.

Congratulations to them and all the other WoE qualifiers!

[Di]

Section 4:

Sunday 19th March
Adjudicator: Alan Morrison and Steve Pritchard Jones
Test Piece: Anglian Dances – Alan Fernie
Commences: 9.00am
Draw: Split at 8.00am, 10.00am, 12.00pm

Results:

1. Verwood Concert Brass, David Marshall, 12, 186
2. Sidmouth Town, Adrian Harvey, 23, 185
3. Wincanton Silver, J. Sykes, 21, 184
4. Bream Silver, Huw Cole, 26, 183
5. Pendennis Brass (Falmouth), C.J. Cottrell, 1, 182
6. AW Parker (Drybrook), Kevin White, 19, 181
7. Torrington Silver, T. Hutchings , 18, 180
8. Hatherleigh Silver, Adrian Edwards, 15, 179
9. Swindon Brass, Francis Cowley, 2, 178
10. Tewkesbury Town , Nigel Morgan, 8, 177
11. Shanklin Town Brass (IOW), Malcolm Lewis, 20 176
12. Saltash Town, Robert Julian, 22, 175
13. Weymouth Concert Brass, A. Davies, 4, 174
14. Chalford Academy, Steve Tubb, 10, 173
15. Bideford Town, Gary Taylor, 11, 172
16. Shaftesbury Town, S. Hawkes, 16, 171
17. Constantine Silver, Keith Anderson, 5
18. New Forest Brass, Ian Luxford, 24, 169
19. Porthleven Town, S. Wearne, 13, 168
20. Okehampton Excelsior, Des Law, 14, 167
?? 24. Wilton and District, David Dyer, 9, 166 ?? (am assuming the 24 is a typo given the points) ;)
22. Brixham Town, B. Cole, 3, 165
23. Watchet Royal British Legion, Dave Tilling, 25, 164
24. Midsomer Norton and Radstock, Stewart Lewins, 17, 163
25. Gosport, Derek Jones, 6, 170, 162
26. Cheltenham Town, J. Button, 7, 161


Nailsworth, W. Thomas, w

Top 4 qualify

From www.4barsrest.com (http://www.4barsrest.com/news/detail.asp?id=2866)

[lillylemon]

just want to say congratulations to Bream in the 4th section and Lydbrook in the 1st section who are both going to Harrogate.

[Sop_Or_Bass?]

How many bands were in the second section in 2004?

If it was 15 (as on 4BR results), I calculate that 6 bands will be relegated from 2nd Section this year - Is this correct?

Band 2004 2005 2006 Total
Bendix 7.5 8 15 23
Weston-super-Mare Brass 9 12 11 23
St Stythians 7.5 13 10 23
Bath Spa 10 14 9 23
Hayle 7.5 8 16 24
Pheonix Brass (Crewkerne) 6 11 13 24

[Di]

I think you'll find its just the two:

"the two bands with the lowest aggregate placings over the last three years will be relegated!

National Rules (http://www.regional-contest.org.uk/london/National%20Brass%20Band%20Championships%20Rules.pd f)

[Sop_Or_Bass?]

I think you'll find its just the two:

"the two bands with the lowest aggregate placings over the last three years will be relegated!

National Rules (http://www.regional-contest.org.uk/london/National%20Brass%20Band%20Championships%20Rules.pd f)
2 years ago 5 bands were relegated from 3rd section in WoE as they were all on the 2 lowest aggregate placings over the last three years - unless of course the rules have changed since then.

If my calcs are correct :-? and the same applies - I believe 6 bands will be relegated from 2nd section

[Lisa]

2 years ago 5 bands were relegated from 3rd section in WoE as they were all on the 2 lowest aggregate placings over the last three years - unless of course the rules have changed since then.

If my calcs are correct :-? and the same applies - I believe 6 bands will be relegated from 2nd section

I think you have to add up the results from the previous 3 years, not 2 as you have done?

[Keith Lewis]

By my calculations in the 2nd section 3 bands will be going down not 6.
Bath Spa 10, 14, 9 =33
Weston 9, 12, 11 =32
Hayle 8(ave) 8(ave) 16(withdrawn) =32
The next bands (St.Sythians and Bendix) have 31 and Crewkerne have 30.

Shame that my old band Bath go down, I'm sure that they will bounce back up.

[chrisgs]

Does anyone know which bands are being promoted from the 4th section?

[Sop_Or_Bass?]

By my calculations in the 2nd section 3 bands will be going down not 6...

Had an error in my spreadsheet! :eek:

I agree with you Keith & Lisa - Thanks

[BassBlaster]

I heard Lydney played well Niel, Kay told me when she picked Grace up.
Well done to you all and good luck next year.

[BassBlaster]

The results of the Championship section are taking a long time, I heard that Polysteel played well, anyone know?.

[Growler]

From 4BR:

Results:

1. Mount Charles, Dr. Nicholas Childs, 11, 195
2. Camborne Town, Frank Renton, 10, 194
3. PolySteel, Philip Harper, 4, 193
4. SWT Woodfalls, Garry Cutt, 3, 191
5. Aldbourne, Steve Sykes, 6, 190
6. Bournemouth Concert Brass, Luc Vertommen, 8, 189

[BassBlaster]

Well two adjudicators can`t be wrong, and I hear Mount Charles have a very good band. Well done to the bands who played.

[BassBlaster]

1. Mount Charles, Dr. Nicholas Childs, 11, 195
2. Camborne Town, Frank Renton, 10, 194
3. PolySteel, Philip Harper, 4, 193
4. SWT Woodfalls, Garry Cutt, 3, 191
5. Aldbourne, Steve Sykes, 6, 190
6. Bournemouth Concert Brass, Luc Vertommen, 8, 189
7. Yeovil Town, Dave Barringer, 7, 187
8. St. Austell, David Loukes, 1, 186
9. Lanner and District Silver, Stuart Chappell, 2, 185
10. Bodmin Town, Kevin Mackenzie, 5, 184
11. Sherborne Town, Paul Cosh, 9, 182

City of Bristol, Bryn James, w
4BR

[ophicliede]

Hi Growler, Thanks for theresults of the Championship Section. I listened to your band play yesterday. Very good performance! A little unlucky to be just outside of qualifying for the finals. Sop was great he had no problems with the top 'c' it was a peach! I heard your youth band play in Wales at the Greater Gwent Youth Festival. What a fantastic performance and so many in the Youth Band. Looked like about thirty odd youngsters.

Results:

1. Mount Charles, Dr. Nicholas Childs, 11, 195
2. Camborne Town, Frank Renton, 10, 194
3. PolySteel, Philip Harper, 4, 193
4. SWT Woodfalls, Garry Cutt, 3, 191
5. Aldbourne, Steve Sykes, 6, 190
6. Bournemouth Concert Brass, Luc Vertommen, 8, 189[/quote]

[Growler]

Thanks alot! BRAVO to the sop player! Wouldnt it be great to be judged on one note! Weve got 3 youth bands all together, with about a hundred kids all together. Fair play to our MD for putting up with them all! Its paying off though, including myself we've got 5 or 6 players who came up through the youth bands that are contesting now. The top three played fantasticly by all accounts, good luck to Helston and Lydbrook!

[ophicliede]

You guys played damned well also. Good to see youngsters coming through from the youth band. Look how well St Dennis are doing, Brian Minear has done a fantastic job. Too many bands are short sighted by poaching players from others or bringing in players especially for contests.That's not what I call good banding. You seem to have a good blend of young people and more experienced players and I did notice that five of the cornet section were female. All strong players you had a good sound. All the best for the future I will keep an eye on the band's progress.

[BigHorn]

Well done Mount Charles - heard you at Butlins and thought you were fantastic. (was shocked you didn't do better then). Nice to see it has all come out well for you today.

[nigel]

well done to wincanton for good result :clap: from all of your neighbours at Gillingham.

[Kiz7]

when do they announce the finals test pieces? Would like to know as Bream have qualified in the 4th section

[Di]

when do they announce the finals test pieces? Would like to know as Bream have qualified in the 4th section

Usually about the beginning of June. :)

[brassphantom]

Have just returned from the west of england and all I can say is hard luck Polysteel when your third place was announced a cry of 'rubbish' was heard followed by stunned silence. You could have heard a pin drop in the hall. I have followed Mount Charles for a while and am stunned at their result split notes a plenty over pictched notes in bass duet intonation problems and in no way in my eyes a winning performance sorry chaps.

[IanHeard]

Well done all the qualifiers at Torquay.
North of England 2nd section, 5 entries= 2 bands to Harrogate.
West of England 2nd section, 16 entries= 2 bands to Harrogate.
Obviously thats the rules, but it seems hardly fair does it?
I suspect that situation would not stand if Yorkshire were in our shoes- they would`nt put up with it!
Ian H.
Soundhouse Brass (Plymouth)
3rd Prize Winners WoE 2nd Section.

[bignige]

when do they announce the finals test pieces? Would like to know as Bream have qualified in the 4th section

Top four in fourth do so they do. Well done to Sidmouth, Wincanton and Bream for qualifying from all of us from Verwood.

Good news for Wessex bands again with Gillingham also qualifying.

Is the final on the Saturday or Sunday?

[Rebel Tuba]

Real strange result on Sunday with the last two bands (both Cornish) claiming 1st and 2nd????.

"....... but there are two people in the box how can this be a wrong result?....."

The only true way to know if either adjudicator was influenced by the other is to have seperat boxes and average the marks given, but this wil never happen, because all us banding sheep and "yes" peopl will see the flaw in this system.

If anyone can prove that two people in the same box, sitting next to each other came to the same conclusions then I will be the first to apologise. If they work as a team, what is the point of two of em???

It dodgy the MC got a draw 11, its even dodgier that bands 10 and 11 qualified for the finals, especially as I agree with the comments of BrassPhantom - no way a better performance than nonames.

(ps BrassPhantom prepare to be cut down as the good folk of tMP don't like contoversy or strong opinions (especially them based below the Tamar Bridge))

Oh well, another year and another dollar, weeks of rehearsal time down the Pan and time to reflect on the year ahead, roll on 2007.

[iggmeister]

Well done to all of the Cornish Bands who qualified for the Finals, especially those who won their respective sections.

I didn't hear any band other than my own in the Champ section. However, from speaking to our supporters, many of whom heard all of the bands, they said that every band had their share of splits/ spoils/ tuning problems. On that basis, it would be a bit difficult to judge it on a split count.

I spoke to quite a few people and they all had the same top 4 bands (the same as the adjudicators), but in various different orders. I also understood that there was a significant difference in interpretation by the top 4 placed bands.

Overall, it was a close contest which of course is great for the neutral.

Igg

[Rebel Tuba]

Ya summed it up IGG

[GingerMaestro]

I think you'll find its just the two:

"the two bands with the lowest aggregate placings over the last three years will be relegated!

National Rules (http://www.regional-contest.org.uk/london/National%20Brass%20Band%20Championships%20Rules.pd f)

Unless it has been changed the actual wording is

The bands with the 2 lowest aggregate placings over the last 3 years will be relegated

So if there were 2,3,4,9 bands with the same point at the bottom of the section they would be relegated

I know it happened to me when I was playing in the WoE 3rd section and 4 bands had 38 points and 1 band had (i think) 42 so 5 bands got relegated

[GingerMaestro]

Can I just say to Cheltenham Silver

Well done on your performance. (Well Done Mandy) The result does not reflect the progress you have made, and my opinion for what it is worth I would not have placed you last.

You should be proud of yourselves

[Rebel Tuba]

Unless it has been changed the actual wording is

The bands with the 2 lowest aggregate placings over the last 3 years will be relegated

So if there were 2,3,4,9 bands with the same point at the bottom of the section they would be relegated

I know it happened to me when I was playing in the WoE 3rd section and 4 bands had 38 points and 1 band had (i think) 42 so 5 bands got relegated

Izz correcta mundo GingeM

[meandmycornet]

Well done to the South Molton Band - especially tMP's meandmycornet and Liz Loftus! Great result!
Very great indeed! :D:D:D:D WE'RE GETTING PROMOTED :D:D:D:D

It was a fab weekend! Have to say a huuuuuuuuuge well done to Charlie Fleming and Lympstone for their amazing 2nd place! (I made Charlie cry! :tongue: ) and their promotion to the first section! Woooooooo! :D:D Fab result! :D:D

Also well done to Verwood... we had you as winners as soon as we heard you!!

And too Porthleven band :eek:.... you had possible THE smallest principal cornet player ever! and she was amazing! Mr 4barsrest took a photo of her too so she'll probably be appearing on there very soon!

[DaveR]

Very great indeed! :D:D:D:D WE'RE GETTING PROMOTED :D:D:D:D

:woo :clap:


And too Porthleven band :eek:.... you had possible THE smallest principal cornet player ever! and she was amazing! Mr 4barsrest took a photo of her too so she'll probably be appearing on there very soon!

Well done to Porthleven - they're a great bunch of guys and they've had a very difficult year, and I'm glad to see that they have done OK at the areas! :clap:

[GingerMaestro]

Well done to Lydney although you are going down with 10th place you should be proud of the performance you gave on Saturday sounded really good and well done Kay and Caroline you both had a blinder

Also Well done Lydbrook on qualifying for the nationals along with Bream in the 4th section and Drybrook in 6th and Tewkesbury on their 10th place you lucky so and so's I have never heard the band sound so nervous. This not to say they didn't play well just not as good as they could have (I am not having a go at them) most people I spoke to said the same thing

[Rapier]

Very great indeed! :D:D:D:D WE'RE GETTING PROMOTED :D:D:D:D




Yes, well done you! Still, we brought Dave T down to earth with our result. We were quite pleased with our performance................until the results!! Ahh well, that's contesting! Glad it's my last. :D

[meandmycornet]

Yes, well done you! Still, we brought Dave T down to earth with our result. We were quite pleased with our performance................until the results!! Ahh well, that's contesting! Glad it's my last. :D

Well we thought that the flugel was beautiful! :D did you leave your jacket at home? :tongue: We thought you played really well and I was VERY shocked to find you so low down in the results :(

[bassinthebathroom]

Well done to Mount Charles and Camborne, a cornish duo at the RAH once again. I wasn't there, but Polysteel must surely count themselves unlucky, as they are a band of very high quality indeed. Ah well such is contesting!
Hard luck to St. Austell, number 1 draw again! Although I am hearing stories of 45 minutes in the registration (though, heaven forbid, not a warm-up) room and waiting 10 minutes for something as simple as music stands on stage! Also, apparently, the adjudicators were walked right past them as they were waiting to go backstage! If this is true, it really is appalling, though I'm not suggesting that Messrs Whitham and Wilby were anything but fair in their placings despite this knowledge.
So much for paying two adjudicators, WoE, if you walk them past the first band on the way to the box! :mad:

[Rapier]

Well we thought that the flugel was beautiful! :D did you leave your jacket at home? :tongue: We thought you played really well and I was VERY shocked to find you so low down in the results :(

It's not my fault they don't have a jacket to fit me. I didn't know you and Mumsie were there, I would have said hello. Oh and thanks for the Flugel comment, but unfortunately we both know that's not true. Still, I thought I wasn't too bad with only four weeks practice. Glad to have given it back though, I guarantee I'll never play it again. :)

[fartycat]

The adjudicators walked past the first three bands getting changed.

That hall is truly awful. You seem to get a different performance from the same band depending on where you sit. Splits reach some parts of the hall but not others whilst the volume is also markedly different in different places.

I listened to a fair few bands and sat in different places. Mount Charles sounded great from the front (bar some intonation and tuba wrong notes) and easily won it for me. However I see others say they heard splits galore?

Also, what was with that vibraphone? Spend hours working on that part only to be confronted with a half size toy of an instrument on stage. Grrrr

[MattEarl]

Can I just say to Cheltenham Silver

Well done on your performance. (Well Done Mandy) The result does not reflect the progress you have made, and my opinion for what it is worth I would not have placed you last.

You should be proud of yourselves

Thanks GingerMaestro, the band are truly gutted by the result and the adjudicators remarks. Some of our greatest critics came up to members of the band yesterday and congratulated us on our performance and tipped us to be close contenders to our local rivals. It's taken the band 5 years to return to the areas, we didn't expect to be booking our hotel for Harrogate, but certainly didn't expect last spot.

Well done to John Button for all his hard work, he has done a fantastic job here at Cheltenham and know that he will continue to develop the band further. Also a big well done to the band, every one of you did it, don't be disheartened and we'll be back next year!!!:clap:

[Cyndy]

Can I just say to Cheltenham Silver

Well done on your performance. (Well Done Mandy) The result does not reflect the progress you have made, and my opinion for what it is worth I would not have placed you last.

You should be proud of yourselves

Hi Martin
Thanks for that, it is much appreciated, we were well slated for not having a sop:(
We did'nt cover this part on Bb cornet because of what happend at last years areas.
But hay there's always next year, and someone has to come last.
Thanks anyway:wink:

[Cyndy]

Thanks GingerMaestro, the band are truly gutted by the result and the adjudicators remarks. Some of our greatest critics came up to members of the band yesterday and congratulated us on our performance and tipped us to be close contenders to our local rivals. It's taken the band 5 years to return to the areas, we didn't expect to be booking our hotel for Harrogate, but certainly didn't expect last spot.

Well done to John Button for all his hard work, he has done a fantastic job here at Cheltenham and know that he will continue to develop the band further. Also a big well done to the band, every one of you did it, don't be disheartened and we'll be back next year!!!:clap:

Thank's Matt, you are right the band did play well and they will be back next year with a sop and Bb Basses, thank's from John for kind comments

[meandmycornet]

Well done to Mount Charles and Camborne, a cornish duo at the RAH once again. I wasn't there, but Polysteel must surely count themselves unlucky, as they are a band of very high quality indeed. Ah well such is contesting!
Hard luck to St. Austell, number 1 draw again! Although I am hearing stories of 45 minutes in the registration (though, heaven forbid, not a warm-up) room and waiting 10 minutes for something as simple as music stands on stage! Also, apparently, the adjudicators were walked right past them as they were waiting to go backstage! If this is true, it really is appalling, though I'm not suggesting that Messrs Whitham and Wilby were anything but fair in their placings despite this knowledge.
So much for paying two adjudicators, WoE, if you walk them past the first band on the way to the box! :mad:

I can't comment on the issue of the ajudicators being walked past the bands waiting to go on... but as far I saw the weekend was extremely well organised, our committee area committee did amazingly well!

Before the championship section was the 27 band strong 4th section... and the results of this! Alan Morrison & Steve Pritchard Jones were taken off to decide their results.... the other sections all had about 15 minutes for this... but with 27 bands in the sections its only fair that they got slightly longer... I think it took about 20/25 minutes! Also the wait before they got on stage was probably due to the fact that there were 27 bands worth of p;ayers and supporters trying to get out of the hall after the results to go and get their coach home!

As far as waiting for stands is confirmed... I don't think that happened... the stage was still set up from the fourth section.... and the percussion was set up during the time that the Alan & Steve were deliberating on their results!

Everytime I saw ajudicators being taken from the box to comfort breaks or 'quiet zones' (believe me it was a lot! I was there all weekend and listened to a lot of bands!) they didn't come out of the box until after bands waiting to go on or off stage had been completey removed from the hall... and we escorted out of a door on the opposite side of the hall that no bands people (or anyone else!) was using.

I think the stewards and everyone concerned did amazingingly well too get 37 bands through the doors and playing in the time they did and the organised manner that it all happened!

[MattEarl]

Thank's Matt, you are right the band did play well and they will be back next year with a sop and Bb Basses, thank's from John for kind comments

Put me down for the BBb, that's the last time I play percussion!

I look forward to 4BR comment about spikey haired demented percussionist. (Just like GingerMaestro's spikes at the Midlands)

[GingerMaestro]

Put me down for the BBb, that's the last time I play percussion!

I look forward to 4BR comment about spikey haired demented percussionist. (Just like GingerMaestro's spikes at the Midlands)

My Spikes were especially noticeable due to the fact they probably looked about 3ft tall from the audience. I turned round at one point and took out the front row of the audience and ruffled the curtain of the adjudicators tent

At one point I thought there was someone at the back with you that you didn't like and were giving them a good kicking:eek:

[Rapier]

As far as waiting for stands is confirmed... I don't think that happened... the stage was still set up from the fourth section.... and the percussion was set up during the time that the Alan & Steve were deliberating on their results!



Yes it did. The 1st Championship band had to wait on stage while more stands were found for the back row cornets. You could hear the Conductor having a go at the Organisers about it. They made an announcement, for the Adjudicators, that the delay was not the fault of the badn. ;)

[GingerMaestro]

Well done to newly promoted Portishead on comming 4th in the 2nd section

[Lisa]

Good news for Wessex bands again with Gillingham also qualifying.

I just want to say how pleased I am about Gillingham Band's result in the area (we came 2nd!) The band has been through some rough times in recent years and only a few years ago were close to folding in.
It's been great to see the gradual turnaround in the last 2/3 years and it's great to have proved the pessimists wrong :p(those people who thought we would fold in!). Now the band is a happy band again, with a great atmosphere - just like it used to be back in the good ol' days! ;)

Well done to Wincanton (our neighbours 10 mins up the road) who qualified in the 4th section. And well done also to Shaftesbury (10 mins away in the other direction!) who came a decent 16th in their 1st area contest in quite a few years.

And of course well done to South Molton who will also be in the 2nd section next year!

[MattEarl]

My Spikes were especially noticeable due to the fact they probably looked about 3ft tall from the audience. I turned round at one point and took out the front row of the audience and ruffled the curtain of the adjudicators tent

At one point I thought there was someone at the back with you that you didn't like and were giving them a good kicking:eek:

Nobody could miss your ginger spikes, police issue - hmm?

If you are going to play the timps you might as well play them with flair and style!!!!

[GingerMaestro]

One thing I forgot to mention earlier is

Well Done to Riannon Symmonds (Bream Band) (I hope I've spelt your name right ) 8 years old and in her first Area contest and qualified for the finals:clap: :clap:

Also Well Done to William Norman (Tewkesbury) in your first Contest and good luck to Jonathan Allen (Tewkesbury) who has left due to work commitments you will be very much missed by the band (a real power house and talented bass player)

[MattEarl]

Well done to Bream and Lydbrook, it's nice to see that Gloucestershire will be represented at Harrogate - Good Luck!!!:tup

[jim]

Must say I enjoyed my first West of england area theres a nice atmosphere around the place to, must say I thought polysteels flugal danny winder, sop spencer o'leary, euph andy hicks, and solo trom were particuly strong,
What did people think of the standerd of the percussion sections in the championship section did bands manage to get 4 good players?
And did all the efoort help or hinder performances?

[Kiz7]

One thing I forgot to mention earlier is

Well Done to Riannon Symmonds (Bream Band) (I hope I've spelt your name right ) 8 years old and in her first Area contest and qualified for the finals:clap: :clap:

Also Well Done to William Norman (Tewkesbury) in your first Contest and good luck to Jonathan Allen (Tewkesbury) who has left due to work commitments you will be very much missed by the band (a real power house and talented bass player)



Thanks Martin - just about got her off the ceiling now! Hope she can become the band's lucky mascot. The band were very pleased with the performance overall but were delighted that we were able to catch the adjuicator's ear at the end of a long day - playing last out of 26 to a very packed hall was certainly an experience. Whis we could have that many in the hall every time we play! Who knows, if we had gone on earlier in the day we might even have made it into the top 3.

Once critisism though - why only three banners for such a large section when four bands were invited to compete at the finals. It would be nice to have something to display in the band room for years to come.

[meandmycornet]

And of course well done to South Molton who will also be in the 2nd section next year!

Thanks Lisa :D:D:D We are very happy! and well done to yourself and the rest of Gillingham Band.... and best of luck for the nationals! do it for the west of england!! :D See you in the 2nd Section!!

Fi (who is still bouncing!)
xx

[Keith Lewis]

Well done to newly promoted Portishead on comming 4th in the 2nd section


Thanks Maestro, we had a good day, although I must protest at the adjudicators remarks " the trombones were not together" In fact Matt and I were in perfect sync. its just the the cornets and conductor were a bit ahead of us.;)

[Growler]

Has anyone heard any news on the first section trophy? Have Aldboune returned it yet?

[MattEarl]

Has anyone heard any news on the first section trophy? Have Aldboune returned it yet?

Trophy was returned yesterday and presented to Helston

[Accidental]

Congrats to Claire and co at Portishead :clap: :clap:

I've seen a few posts trying to figure out gradings for the 2nd section, hope this helps...

How many bands were in the second section in 2004?
If it was 15 (as on 4BR results), I calculate that 6 bands will be relegated from 2nd Section this year...
The 'average' points out of 15 is actually 8 not 7.5 so the positions change slightly.

Unless it has been changed the actual wording is
The bands with the 2 lowest aggregate placings over the last 3 years will be relegated
So if there were 2,3,4,9 bands with the same point at the bottom of the section they would be relegated
The new rules have changed slightly -
"In the case where two or more bands tie with equal last placing, then only these bands will be relegated. If two or more bands tie with equal second to last placing then these bands, in addition to the last placed band, will be relegated."

Sounds like you guys need to lobby your area committee to issue grading tables on the day like L&SC do - it saves a lot of hassle and guess work!

[mandykeedwell]

Thanks Martin we are all unhappy with the result but we have to pick ourselfs up and keep moving forward we performed well and should be proud of ourselfs we will come back next year and try again, in the mean time we will enter some more contests for experience.

[mandykeedwell]

Matt I agree we will be back next year so watch out, Cheltenham will not give up.

[meandmycornet]

Has anyone heard any news on the first section trophy? Have Aldboune returned it yet?

Yes and it was presented to a member of Helston Band yesterday before the 4th section results :) shame it wasn't returned in time, naughty Aldbourne! :tongue:

[Chris Hicks]

Well what a weekend aye!
Portishead put in a stormer and could easily have been given 2nd! But o well contestin aye!
What i must say though is having heard everyone bar bands 7 and 8 in the champ sec (yeovil and bournemouth i think) i'm utterly bermused!!
I know i may have slight favouritisem towards Polysteel with my dad being there but how they didn't at least qualyfy is beyond me. Unless the adjudicators were awarding bands for rong notes and pitches in the bass duet, flipped notes in sop and cornet solo's and flipped notes in trombone solo's and generally pretty shocking intonation in the slow movement then i can understand the result but as i suspect they weren't then i really cannot understand that result!!
Having said that good luck to Cambourne and Mount Charles at the RAH!

[GingerMaestro]

Thanks Martin we are all unhappy with the result but we have to pick ourselfs up and keep moving forward we performed well and should be proud of ourselfs we will come back next year and try again, in the mean time we will enter some more contests for experience.

If you enter any contests where you can borrow from the section above at least for this year (as next year I will be in second section) then give us a shout and if I am available I will help you out or even just some of the summer jobs

Maybe try going to Wychavon in September (entertaiments contest)

[Lisa]

...in the mean time we will enter some more contests for experience.

Weston-Super-Mare contest is a great contest (and a nice day out along the seafront if it is sunny :) ) that our band has started playing in. It is quite soon though - 21st May.

[chicken boy]

[QUOTE=Chris Hicks]Well what a weekend aye!
Portishead put in a stormer and could easily have been given 2nd!
Thats a tad disrespectful to the bands placed 3rd and 2nd I would say, unless you actually heard yourself and the other band's in question and of course you were playing so you couldnt could you? Still absolutely well done and congratulations to you, 4th was a brilliant result, you will have your day in the 2nd section I am sure......lets let those whose turn it was have there's!

[mandykeedwell]

If you enter any contests where you can borrow from the section above at least for this year (as next year I will be in second section) then give us a shout and if I am available I will help you out or even just some of the summer jobs

Maybe try going to Wychavon in September (entertaiments contest)

You will need a mop head. thanks that would be great I will hold you to that.:biggrin:

[mandykeedwell]

Weston-Super-Mare contest is a great contest (and a nice day out along the seafront if it is sunny :) ) that our band has started playing in. It is quite soon though - 21st May.

Thanks Lisa but we have missed the entry date, hope you do well:sup

[mandykeedwell]

Hi Martin
Thanks for that, it is much appreciated, we were well slateted for not having a sop:(
We did'nt cover this part on Bb cornet because of what happend at last years areas.
But hay there's always next year, and someone has to come last.
Thanks anyway:wink:

I agree we were slated for no sop O well lets pick ourself up:clap:

[Cyndy]

Yo T***ypants oops Mandy

Nice to see you joining us at last

[ChrisL]

I notice in the Contest programme that the west of england committee are asking for comments on the pro's and cons of having a web site. This is a great idea, long overdue, and could have a league table not just for the areas but other non national contests such as truro. This would save the endless discussions on who's going up or down etc. Also Deputising data base, concert adverts and links to band sites and info on non web active bands.
We should all make a point of writing (snail mail only ) to get them to agree to this.
O r........ do you all think its a bad idea?

[sugarandspice]

Very great indeed! :D:D:D:D WE'RE GETTING PROMOTED :D:D:D:D

It was a fab weekend! Have to say a huuuuuuuuuge well done to Charlie Fleming and Lympstone for their amazing 2nd place! (I made Charlie cry! :tongue: ) and their promotion to the first section! Woooooooo! :D:D Fab result! :D:D

Also well done to Verwood... we had you as winners as soon as we heard you!!

And too Porthleven band :eek:.... you had possible THE smallest principal cornet player ever! and she was amazing! Mr 4barsrest took a photo of her too so she'll probably be appearing on there very soon!

Have to agree with everything you say!!

Well done on being promoted!

We're so chuffed to be going to the Finals, great result for the band!! As i said before, everyone worked really hard hard for it and there has been a great vibe around the band for the last few weeks, lets hope it continues to harrogate! All that FOCUS obviously payed off!

A Huge shout out to all the cornish bands! Well done!! Great to see cornwall getting such a good representation in London, tho i think all 4 of the top placed bands (those were the only placed bands i heard) gave top class preformances. Well done to you all!
A big well done to Pendennis for coming in the top 5, and well done to our neighbours at Sidmouth for also qualifying! Also special mention to Porthleven, who also made charlie cry! (afriad it doesnt take much meanmycornet, he was crying all weekend!) was honoured to speak to the smallest prinicpal cornet player ive ever seen, she was brilliant and the band did themselves proud!

Was good to add to my list of tmp'ers that i have now met- Rebel Tuba- good to be able to put a face to name- and you have the cutest baby ever!!
And simon persins from woodfalls, good to meet you!

It's been such a great weekend! Only just starting to come down from being on such a high! (and thats only because ive been sleeping for so long to recover!

[mandykeedwell]

Yo T***ypants oops Mandy

Nice to see you joining us at last

Thanks Cyn had to ask matt were to find you all :oops:

[Chris Hicks]

[quote=Chris Hicks]Well what a weekend aye!
Portishead put in a stormer and could easily have been given 2nd!
Thats a tad disrespectful to the bands placed 3rd and 2nd I would say, unless you actually heard yourself and the other band's in question and of course you were playing so you couldnt could you? Still absolutely well done and congratulations to you, 4th was a brilliant result, you will have your day in the 2nd section I am sure......lets let those whose turn it was have there's!

I didn't mean in that way if you get me i ment that if maybe it had gone our way then possibly we could have got up there and few people said that aswell!
As it happens though i did hear i one of the bands above us though!

[IanHeard]

Coulda...woulda...shoulda! :)
Don`t worry Chris, I think I know what you mean.
As one of the three bands who "sneaked" in ahead of you, we`d heard you had played well too and you`ve certainly laid down a marker for next year and beyond.
We played No2 and to a 2/3 empty hall so I guess it was`nt us you heard!
Ian H.
Soundhouse Brass (Plymouth)

[Chris Hicks]

Coulda...woulda...shoulda! :)
Don`t worry Chris, I think I know what you mean.
As one of the three bands who "sneaked" in ahead of you, we`d heard you had played well too and you`ve certainly laid down a marker for next year and beyond.
We played No2 and to a 2/3 empty hall so I guess it was`nt us you heard!
Ian H.
Soundhouse Brass (Plymouth)

Yes there is next year i suppose and i think we worked it out that we are top of the gradings with St Dennis and Lympstone going up so maybe we can go up aswell next year on a good result!! :biggrin: :clap:

[trombonebabe]

One thing I forgot to mention earlier is

Well Done to Riannon Symmonds (Bream Band) (I hope I've spelt your name right ) 8 years old and in her first Area contest and qualified for the finals:clap: :clap:



thanks martin, im really happy but mum played that solo superbly so im chuffed for her too :biggrin:
cant wait for the next contest now. Hope I get to play at Harrogate. I am really eager to know what the test piece is!
it was good to see becki - I hope to see her at the next GYBB training band thing.

[Cyndy]

A Big well done to Lydbrook and Bream for qualifying, Also congrat's to A W Parker Drybrook for promotion to the 3rd section,and Lydbrook back where they belong in the Championship section:clap:

[Jasper]

I notice in the Contest programme that the west of england committee are asking for comments on the pro's and cons of having a web site. This is a great idea, long overdue, and could have a league table not just for the areas but other non national contests such as truro. This would save the endless discussions on who's going up or down etc. Also Deputising data base, concert adverts and links to band sites and info on non web active bands.
We should all make a point of writing (snail mail only ) to get them to agree to this.
O r........ do you all think its a bad idea?

I think its a great idea :clap: and probably about time the WoE BBA got up to speed with whats going on in the rest of the country from what I can tell and got themselves a website. Ironic through that they have asked for 'snail-mail' replies - surely there must be an email adress we could quickly and effectively give our comments to. Anyway, I'm all for it and will try and find a stamp (whats one of those !!!)

Mike

[chicken boy]

Coulda...woulda...shoulda! :)
Don`t worry Chris, I think I know what you mean.
As one of the three bands who "sneaked" in ahead of you, we`d heard you had played well too and you`ve certainly laid down a marker for next year and beyond.
We played No2 and to a 2/3 empty hall so I guess it was`nt us you heard!
Ian H.
Soundhouse Brass (Plymouth)

What a shame that you played 2nd it obviously impaired your performance to play in an empty hall,, I also heard that you were pretty lack lustre on the day......as I said every dog has his day and Saturday wasnt yours....live with it!!

[snazzy_cornet_sound]

Well done to everyone who qualified! I hope nobody else had to wait the stupidly long time the my band had to on stage whilst they ran and found some music stands!

[Rosie]

Regarding the whole business of the 1st Championship section band having to wait so long, I can confirm this as I was playing for the band in question. As we were waiting to go on, in the partioned area by the doors, several members of the band saw the two adjudicators being escorted past into the main hall. (I assume this was a comfort break after the fourth section?) So this we thought was slightly dodgy, then we got onstage eventually, after being told to be at registration a good 45 minutes before we needed to be. Then after being told that band members were no longer permitted to go onstage beforehand to set up stands and seating etc and that stage managers would set up for us to our stage diagram, we were a stand short on the second cornet line. We were then forced to sit onstage for a good five/ten minutes waiting whilst they found a stand, which actually turned out to be a dodgy looking conductors stand. Now I am in no way suggesting this is why we got such a poor result, I will openly say that we did not do as well as we could have and that we didn't deserve to qualify, but these seemingly little things really did unnerve a lot of the band. It certainly didn't calm me, sitting onstage for ages, after being so psyched up before going on. Other than this, the organisation was superb, and as usual the food and drink flowed freely!

Congrats to Mount Charles and Camborne. Go and show em all what the Cornish are made of!

[IanHeard]

What a shame that you played 2nd it obviously impaired your performance to play in an empty hall,, I also heard that you were pretty lack lustre on the day......as I said every dog has his day and Saturday wasnt yours....live with it!!


Rather aggresive post, not sure it was warranted!
On the contrary we were delighted with our overall performance and 3rd place in the 2nd section was our best result for donkey`s years.
I tend to think an early draw at our level makes little or no difference and to describe our performance as "lask lustre" is a tad insulting ........although I forgot that`s only what you heard from someone else, very convenient!
Stop tryng to pin views and opinions on me that I have`nt said and try and make your next post less confrontational.
Ian Heard.

[Rebel Tuba]

Was good to add to my list of tmp'ers that i have now met- Rebel Tuba- good to be able to put a face to name- and you have the cutest baby ever!!

Geez, thanx and congrats to you on your result:clap:

[Rebel Tuba]

Must say I enjoyed my first West of england area theres a nice atmosphere around the place to, must say I thought polysteels flugal danny winder, sop spencer o'leary, euph andy hicks, and solo trom were particuly strong,
What did people think of the standerd of the percussion sections in the championship section did bands manage to get 4 good players?
And did all the efoort help or hinder performances?

Jim, did you hear any perc??? It was appalling in certain bands......:-?

No only jesting. the piece required great percussion to give the overall effect and I think most bands would have been pleased with the outcome.

Yourself, I thought was outstanding and never before have I seen an octopus on stage as I saw with your performance on Sunday - what a sight. :clap:

[Rosie]

Did everyone see "Sideshow Bob" our Swiss percussionist playing for us again?! He played really well, despite the percussion equipment leaving a lot to be desired for as many have said.

[Rapier]

I thought 'he' was just a flat chested girl!! Do they not have barbers in Switzerland? Especially since you seemed to have so many girlies! All the back row and horns plus the odd few scattered around other parts. I enjoyed your performance apart from the odd little slip by the solo cornet and a blip by the sop (who I thought was particularly cute. Ah, if only I was 30 years younger, a better player and lived in Cornwall! Oh and not married!! ;) )

[jim]

Jim, did you hear any perc??? It was appalling in certain bands......:-?

No only jesting. the piece required great percussion to give the overall effect and I think most bands would have been pleased with the outcome.

Yourself, I thought was outstanding and never before have I seen an octopus on stage as I saw with your performance on Sunday - what a sight. :clap:

cheers dave! I new I could rely on you for some praise the £10 is in the post!!! just a bit gutted about the result, but well luck dousnt always go your way all the time, so what did you think overall of the bands you heard?

[GingerMaestro]

Thanks Cyn had to ask matt were to find you all :oops:

We were all hiding from you.

Had to ask What is a principable cornet is it like a Principle cornet but different

or is it an able princip

[MattEarl]

We were all hiding from you.

Had to ask What is a principable cornet is it like a Principle cornet but different

or is it an able princip

It should read Principal (to be precise!!!)

[GingerMaestro]

It should read Principal (to be precise!!!)

ooooooohhhhhh Who's a smarty pants today then

and this comming from Mr Instrument TBC

[Rebel Tuba]

cheers dave! I new I could rely on you for some praise the £10 is in the post!!! just a bit gutted about the result, but well luck dousnt always go your way all the time, so what did you think overall of the bands you heard?

Well you know, there were some good bands and all with slips here and there, some more noticable than others, but overall I think that what your boys and gals did to that music was unbelieveable it was dark, exciting, adventurous and very discriptive.

The 3 best bands were at the top, but (not to steal anyones lines) not necessarily in the right order.:frown:

Anyway, onwards and ...... well onwards.......go on then upwards as well

[MattEarl]

ooooooohhhhhh Who's a smarty pants today then

and this comming from Mr Instrument TBC

Not just a pretty face!! (No comments please!!)

Feel a bit of a nomad at the moment, not sure whether I'm playing, cornet, BBb or percussion, or even conducting!!

[GingerMaestro]

Not just a pretty face!! (No comments please!!)

Feel a bit of a nomad at the moment, not sure whether I'm playing, cornet, BBb or percussion, or even conducting!!

At the moment you are playing keyboard

I would stick to bass

[MattEarl]

At the moment you are playing keyboard

I would stick to bass

Always playing the fool too!!!

Look forward to playing bass again this week - I've missed my tuba!!:frown:

[Liz Courts]

Wow, what a weekend!! We qualified, YAY!!!! And we had a fantastic rehearsal last night - almost full attendence - not what I was expecting two days after the contest (personally I think that prinicpal cornet players should be banned from going on holiday...hehe!). It seems that the result at the weekend has certainly motivated the band.

Also congratulations to all the other qualifiers, especially the Cornish ones! And Sidmouth!! Mount Charles and Camborne played amazingly well in the championship section! PolySteel and Woodfalls also put in good performances, and well done to Paul from St Austell for playing twice!! :clap:

:biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:

[meandmycornet]

well done to Paul from St Austell for playing twice!! :clap:

:biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:

Call me thick.... but isn't that like... against the law? :confused: :confused: :confused:

[DaveR]

Call me thick.... but isn't that like... against the law? :confused: :confused: :confused:

Depends on the circumstances. If a player is taken ill for example, then a band can ask at the draw to borrow a player from the band that played previously. They have to be able to prove their case pretty conclusively though.

[snazzy_cornet_sound]

I can clear that one up being the man himself! lol, Lanner had a sick note on the front row so me playing for the 'long waiting' band before, i had to stay on the stage like a right pillock and go and play with them once they arrived on stage. Luckily the stage crew got there act together by the second band and were abit quicker! I must say a well done to lanner for there performance, with so many young players in the band i think they did a grand job!

[sugarandspice]

And we had a fantastic rehearsal last night - almost full attendence - not what I was expecting two days after the contest (personally I think that prinicpal cornet players should be banned from going on holiday...hehe!). It seems that the result at the weekend has certainly motivated the band.


:biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
Great to see EVERYONE that played on sat at band practice last night,certainly good to put some other peoples minds at rest as to our new permantant additions to the band :) Cracking good practice, to follow a cracking good weekend! Bring on Western SuperMare contest i say! :)

Paul was playing twice due to the doctors note the next band had. Hope Sharon is back to playing soon :) Big cheers to richard tho who did a great job stepping in as Principal :) Well done Lanner.

Oh and just in case i didn't say it enough at the weekend.......COME ON!!!!!!!

[meandmycornet]

Oooooh ok.... I'm with you now! I forgot about the whole doctors note thingy!

We had a person from (I think) Lympstone at SWBBA play with us at the november contest because Jason was poorly :tongue: we thought he was like 14/15 and he ended up being like 22 or summat! Sorry Mr Front Row cornet! He also stood out a mile in his red blazer with our black concert jackets!

[sugarandspice]

Oooooh ok.... I'm with you now! I forgot about the whole doctors note thingy!

We had a person from (I think) Lympstone at SWBBA play with us at the november contest because Jason was poorly :tongue: we thought he was like 14/15 and he ended up being like 22 or summat! Sorry Mr Front Row cornet! He also stood out a mile in his red blazer with our black concert jackets!

Yep, you had andy with you, it was his first contest and he played twice! We had a couple of contest virgins on sat too, well done you guys you did us proud :)

As for standing out in the red jackets- bring on the new uniforms for the finals! :)

[meandmycornet]

Oooooh sounds exciting! What are your new uniforms going too be? Or is it a secret until the finals?

[sugarandspice]

Oooooh sounds exciting! What are your new uniforms going too be? Or is it a secret until the finals?

Not aware of it being a secret?? Our sponsors have changed colours so it stands to reason we need to change colours too!

[mandykeedwell]

We were all hiding from you.

Had to ask What is a principable cornet is it like a Principle cornet but different

or is it an able princip
Thought you must have been hiding suppose you had enough of me over the weekend.

[mandykeedwell]

Hi Cyn
What do you think of the arrangement for Scarlet Ribons, can John do anything with it.
Are you not going to band tonight.:biggrin:

[mandykeedwell]

Thought you must have been hiding suppose you had enough of me over the weekend.

Thought I would see who spotted the spelling mistake first, well done.

Do you know any good cornet solo's we have not been able to find one, I want something with a nice tune and melodic.:tongue:

What are you doing on 28th April do you fancy helping us at St Thomas More for a concert.:guiness

[Cyndy]

Hi Cyn
What do you thing of the arrangement for Scarlet Ribons, can John do anything with it.
Are you not going to band tonight.:biggrin:

Hi Mand

No band tonight, and I am bored, :cool: ,am going to go and play me flug now,:) sad person that I am :rolleyes:

P.S. I would just like to say you played very well on Saturday brilliant solo , and the band did well,and in my humble oppinion did not deserve last

[mandykeedwell]

Hi Mand

No band tonight, and I am bored, :cool: ,am going to go and play me flug now,:) sad person that I am :rolleyes:

I have agreed to help Pillowell at Weston and have asked Steve to help at Thomas more

[Cyndy]

What are you doing on 28th April do you fancy helping us at St Thomas More for a concert.:guiness

Mand
The bar at Thomas More is no more, strictly tea total now:frown:

[brasscrest]

Ahem . . . let's remain on topic, please.

[Rosie]

I thought 'he' was just a flat chested girl!! Do they not have barbers in Switzerland? Especially since you seemed to have so many girlies! All the back row and horns plus the odd few scattered around other parts. I enjoyed your performance apart from the odd little slip by the solo cornet and a blip by the sop (who I thought was particularly cute. Ah, if only I was 30 years younger, a better player and lived in Cornwall! Oh and not married!! ;) )

They do indeed have barbers in Switzerland, but unfortunately they are even more expensive than in our country, so Domi just prefers to leave his to grow. Besides he likes being referred to as Brian May...:tongue: (And Slash come to think of it!)

And I'm surprised you had time to assess our actual performance, what with having a good look at the horn and cornet section! Mind you, I suppose we did sit onstage for ten minutes before even playing...:D

[Keith Lewis]

I notice in the Contest programme that the west of england committee are asking for comments on the pro's and cons of having a web site. This is a great idea, long overdue, and could have a league table not just for the areas but other non national contests such as truro. This would save the endless discussions on who's going up or down etc. Also Deputising data base, concert adverts and links to band sites and info on non web active bands.
We should all make a point of writing (snail mail only ) to get them to agree to this.
O r........ do you all think its a bad idea?

I think this is a fab idea and will be writting to

The Secretary of the West of England Brass Band Association


His address is printed in the West of England program page 5.

I would put his name and address but not sure if that's allowed????? data protection and all that.

[brasscrest]

I would put his name and address but not sure if that's allowed????? data protection and all that.

You're correct, that sort of information should not be publicly posted on tMP. The reference to the page in the program is OK, and you could also send the information by PM.

[Tromgod]

I can clear that one up being the man himself! lol, Lanner had a sick note on the front row so me playing for the 'long waiting' band before, i had to stay on the stage like a right pillock and go and play with them once they arrived on stage. Luckily the stage crew got there act together by the second band and were abit quicker! I must say a well done to lanner for there performance, with so many young players in the band i think they did a grand job!

Thanks for your help on Sunday. In all my time at contesting I have never had to play for two bands in a row as you had to and it must have been a killer on the lip. I was very pleased with our performance given the lack of a bass trom (well done Phil on baritone for covering so well) & Bb bass. Richard did an amazing job on principal on the day and I take my hat off to him for his efforts.:clap:

[mandykeedwell]

Hi Mand

No band tonight, and I am bored, :cool: ,am going to go and play me flug now,:) sad person that I am :rolleyes:

P.S. I would just like to say you played very well on Saturday brilliant solo , and the band did well,and in my humble oppinion did not deserve last

Thanks Cyndy I think they forgot who we were and placed us last,:( 7 must not be a good draw number, we will show them next year, think we may have to start getting a contest band together and a concert fete band as I think we are going to have trouble gettting some of them to contest again.:hammer

[Jamie]

Hello chaps,

Ginge belatedly told me he was visiting Torquay at the weekend, so with the day off on Sunday, I shot down from Notts. I heard the latter part of the 4th section (was a long drive!) and then the championship. Firstly, congratulations to Mount Charles and Camborne; god knows where I'll be living or working in October, but I'll be in London to cheer you on! Also, unlucky to Polysteel- I know a few have suggested that the top placed bands were possibly in the wrong order, so I'll stick my neck out and say I had them as winners... and as a die-hard Mount Charles supporter that's one big admission! As for Mount Charles' performance- it wasn't perfect but I'm not sure it was quite as much rubbish as some have argued, but then, what do I know?

I agree with the hall being funny-sounding in general though, and not simply as an excuse for some dodgy playing. Where you sit makes a massive difference, and from what I could see they've had the stage carpeted since last year (or potentially the year before, since I've not been since then) which can't do much for the sound.

They've done quite a bit of refurbishment since I last went, actually. Hiding the toilets behind a wall was a good move... wish someone had told me- that was a mission!

Had another little mission on Sunday night too. Ginge had to get back to Pompey for work on Monday morning, but if he got the last train, he'd miss the end of the championship section. So in all my stupidity I agreed to drive him back there. I then had to stay in a hotel in Portsmouth, and zoom quicktime up the M1 for a lecture on Monday morning. Drove an extra 200+ miles so he could see the band... at least it was worth it, I s'pose!

[Ginge]

Hello chaps,
Had another little mission on Sunday night too. Ginge had to get back to Pompey for work on Monday morning, but if he got the last train, he'd miss the end of the championship section. So in all my stupidity I agreed to drive him back there. I then had to stay in a hotel in Portsmouth, and zoom quicktime up the M1 for a lecture on Monday morning. Drove an extra 200+ miles so he could see the band... at least it was worth it, I s'pose!

He he! Cheers for that one. ;)
By the way i had the top 2 as 1. Mount Charles, 2. Polysteel.
I wouldn't have minded either way!

[mandykeedwell]

Mand
The bar at Thomas More is no more, strictly tea total now:frown:

Best not tell the rest of the band or the guests, other wise we will not a band for the concert.:frown:

[Whit Thursday, Man!]

Best not tell the rest of the band or the guests, other wise we will not a band for the concert.:frown:

Are we not getting off the point of this thread, Man(d)?

[brasscrest]

Good point, Mr. Thursday. Let's try to stay on topic - this thread is about the WoE Regionals.

[ChrisL]

Any of you bright spreadsheet wizz kids worked out the points tables after this years comp for all 5 sections?

[bassinthebathroom]

Any of you bright spreadsheet wizz kids worked out the points tables after this years comp for all 5 sections?

Sadly, yes.

God, I'm such a BOC. If it wasn't for the fact that people actually want this information, I would have to go away and expire quietly in shame...

[ChrisL]

Good work bassinthebathroom, thats just what was required thank you

[Sop_Or_Bass?]

Thanks for the table.

Just to clarify in the 1st section. Is it Test Valley (27.5 points) who are joining us in the jump down to the Second Section, other than Solent Concert (27 points)?

Thanks
Neil

[bassinthebathroom]

Thanks for the table.

Just to clarify in the 1st section. Is it Test Valley (27.5 points) who are joining us in the jump down to the Second Section, other than Solent Concert (27 points)?

Thanks
Neil

Oops. I went to school in Cornwall, where they never taught me to count proper. :oops:
Indeed, according to my calculations it should be TVB and Lydney. Upoloaded file amended also.

[sugarandspice]

We've been promoted! COME ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:)

Thanks for confirming that for me Iain, :D

[bignige]

Good work bassinthebathroom, thats just what was required thank you


Thanks bassinthe ballroom for preparing the table. Hopefully if WoE get their website this sort of information can be made available like North and London.

Glad we are promoted out of the fourth section. It is a shame that given the size of the third section and the fact that three bands will be relegated and only two promoted, that more bands cannot be promoted. Can the WoE committee use their discretion and common sense to help the consistent fourth section bands?

Congratulations to all promoted bands. Hard luck to those relegated - you will be back!!

[bignige]

Whats up with clock? I posted at 13.10 but shows as 15.10.

Sorry if this is covered elsewhere but I'm confused.

Back to west of England................

[mandykeedwell]

Are we not getting off the point of this thread, Man(d)?

Sorry I forgot myself:biggrin:

[ChrisL]

Thanks bassinthe ballroom for preparing the table. Hopefully if WoE get their website this sort of information can be made available like North and London.

Here here, but going by the 2001 Bugle contest website (still in position) and the current bugle contest website; which looked as if it was going to be fantastic but somehow never quite was; a web site is a must but I hope we are not going to feel a little dissapointed!
Everybody read those area contest programmes and get writing or at least nag your band sec's to do so.

[persins]

Sorry about the late response but I have been on holiday!!!

I just wanted to add my congratulations to all bands and qualifiers from the West to the finals. Good luck. I'm sure that you'll all do well. Again, I missed out this year but that won't stop me supporting the other representatives at the finals themselves.

[cornetish]

I have just read your comments on the qualifiers in the Championship section at the WoE qualifiers in Torquay and I must say that I am just a tad confused. So you are biased towards Polysteel. I cannot comment on their performance or indeed Mount Charles's but having been competing with Camborne on the day I fail to see, and hope you are not referring to ourselves when you mention bad solo lines etc. In fact I think you will find that our soloists were ALL solid and I failed to hear even one note knocked over by any of them. I would also like to point out that this is our fifth time of qualifying in the last 6 years, pretty consistant I would say! No offence to Polysteel and their many supporters, they are a great band but they are not the only band in the West of England that can turn it on when it counts!

[cornetish]

sorry, that last post was in rsponse to Chris Hick's comments regarding performances given by the championship qualifiers at Torquay

[cornetish]

Perhaps the reason you are so bemused is the same reason you are playing 3rd cornet for Portishead and not Principal for Mount Charles, Camborne or indeed Polysteel? :rolleyes: No offence to your band it's probably a really good 3rd section band but if you are seriously suggesting that you are more qualified to adjudicate the top section than the two on the day then maybe you should apply for the job next year. If you make rather generalised comments you must expect a reaction!

Having played solo cornet in one of the top 10 bands in the world it has been a real eye opener reading through the posts on tmp regarding the area competition. There have been more sour grapes aired regarding thr WoE this year than I ever experienced in Yorkshire. Live with it, that's banding! That was a general comment not aimed at you Chris in particular. :frown:



Well what a weekend aye!
Portishead put in a stormer and could easily have been given 2nd! But o well contestin aye!
What i must say though is having heard everyone bar bands 7 and 8 in the champ sec (yeovil and bournemouth i think) i'm utterly bermused!!
I know i may have slight favouritisem towards Polysteel with my dad being there but how they didn't at least qualyfy is beyond me. Unless the adjudicators were awarding bands for rong notes and pitches in the bass duet, flipped notes in sop and cornet solo's and flipped notes in trombone solo's and generally pretty shocking intonation in the slow movement then i can understand the result but as i suspect they weren't then i really cannot understand that result!!
Having said that good luck to Cambourne and Mount Charles at the RAH!

[BandTaxi]

...........you are playing 3rd cornet for Portishead..................

...........No offence to your band it's probably a really good 3rd section band...........

Portishead WERE a good 3rd section band, that's why they came 3rd in the National Finals last year. :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

However, they became a 2nd section band on 1st January this year! :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:

[Rebel Tuba]

Cornetish or Corne TISH, which ever you feel best with, you must really be that superior to pick on young Chris. He had an opinion of which I agree to quite a bit of and I also found it quite a strange result on the day that Polysteel didn't qualify. We know how good the two bands in Cornwall are. If you follow this (and other threads) the world must know that Cornwall is the centre of the brass band movement.

But for you to rip into Chris, who sat through most of that section and berate him for his comments and thoughts then I feel very sorry for you and very sorry that your comments seem to bellow for the the bands of Cornwall

Obviously being the ultra superior player you are we must bow to your better judgement.

All Hail Corne TISH, invader and now Lord of Cornish banding.

Chris, dont let these types of comments put you off supporting, playing and judging in your banding life

[Rebel Tuba]

Portishead WERE a good 3rd section band, that's why they came 3rd in the National Finals last year. :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

However, they became a 2nd section band on 1st January this year! :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:

and were only two points off becoming a 1st section band from 2007

[Jamie]

I don't want to appear to align myself with either side of this 'debate', but fear its getting a bit heated, especially now that that nothing can be done about the results.

I agree with Mr Tuba to the extent that it does seem a little unfair to lodge such an attack on one particular poster, but in all fairness, his (Chris's) comments weren't the most complimentary, basically saying that if rubbish playing was what earned points then the correct decision was made. When posting something such as this, you can only expect those involved to defend themselves.

Having said that, to suggest that his opinion was less valid than another because of the section his own band plays in, was also, in my opinion, slightly unnecessary. We all pass comment on performances, and the vast majority of us are not professional adjudicators. We don't claim to know better than the adjudicators, but we are entitled to disagree with their comments. That right extends to everyone, regardless of personal circumstance, playing ability or section.

Forgive me if I've misread any of your comments, that was obviously not my intention. I simply wanted to highlight how both sides have valid points, and that perhaps its not necessary to descend to this. Just my humble opinion, however.

In addition to this, I think its a shame that Cornwall has been pictured as a county full of ego-centrics, because of recent success in this contest, and because of other threads expressing the pride of people involved in banding in Cornwall at such achievements. Nobody has proposed that Cornwall is the centre of the brass band movement. Perhaps they have been blowing their own trumpets. Perhaps, sometimes, people should be allowed to, and to enjoy their success, and share their pride in it.

If the championship section result was down to dodgy adjudication then so be it, there's little we can do to alter it now. I've already expressed my surprise that Polysteel didn't qualify, but am not going to berate the performances of the other bands to justify it. It was a decision made by two people deemed professionals, and while we can disagree with it til we're blue in the face, it stands.

After the uproar at last year's contest, this thread has been mostly complimentary, and sporting, which was a pleasant change. Please lets not ruin it now by tearing into eachother so long after the event. The south west as a whole is a strong region for banding... surely that's something to celebrate, not argue over?

[Rebel Tuba]

jamie, i've never been called "Mr" before, thank you - plenty of other names but not Mr.

Although it got a little out of hand (as a thread) you may want to read this entertaining shout

http://www.themouthpiece.com/vb/showthread.php?t=20250 (- oh you've been there I see)

Ahh what a hobby, lifestyle we have

[IanHeard]

If you follow this (and other threads) the world must know that Cornwall is the centre of the brass band movement.






RT you must desist from your rampant "janner-baiting":), as the person who started the "other thread" about the relative success of Cornish Banding, I or no-one else has suggested that Cornwall is now at the centre of the banding universe although I did say it is certainly at the epicentre of WoE banding.
As a player in a Devon band who routinely has to suffer a cornish band ruining our contest days because they beat us, I have no urge to "bull" up the efforts of Cornish Bands for the sake of it, to me it is case of recognising that some Cornish bands seem to have a recipe for success and perhaps learning from it.
And looking at the relative efforts of the Wessex and Glos association bands in comparison to the SWBBA bands the need to learn is perhaps more urgent than you think!

[Rebel Tuba]

RT you must desist from your rampant "janner-baiting":),

There it goes - the last bit of fun I had in life, brushed aside and sent packing :(





:rolleyes: :wink:

[Kiz7]

I notice in the Contest programme that the west of england committee are asking for comments on the pro's and cons of having a web site. This is a great idea, long overdue, and could have a league table not just for the areas but other non national contests such as truro. This would save the endless discussions on who's going up or down etc. Also Deputising data base, concert adverts and links to band sites and info on non web active bands.
We should all make a point of writing (snail mail only ) to get them to agree to this.
O r........ do you all think its a bad idea?

Does the WofE now have a website?

[ChrisL]

yes
www.southwestbrassbandassociation.co.uk

[Kiz7]

yes
www.southwestbrassbandassociation.co.uk

sorry, but this appears to be a SOUTH WEST BRASS BAND ASSOCIATION website, just like the Gloucesterhsire Brass Band Association website. I understood that there was to be a West of England regional website - the link you provided is not for a website relating to that. Is there a WEST OF ENGLAND website or did I misunderstand?