New Band Music - What do YOU want?

[Roger Thorne]

The Music Man wrote:


I gather you must like Steve Hacket stuff then... have you heard the "Genesis Revisited" track? Opens with brilliant weird sounds and effects building into "Dance on a Volcano" ... WOW. I really wish I had more ability to do arrangements because I firmly believe some of Genesis music would be great scored for band. They tend to use a lot of 5/4, 7/8 non standard time sig stuff which always adds that 'interesting' element to music in my opinion. Take Phillip Sparke, Gregson etc....

I was interested to read John's posting about the music of 'Genesis' and how some of their music would make great band arrangements.

This has promted me to add a topic What do YOU want?
As a Composer and Arranger I am always looking for new ideas, particularly for band arrangements and on several occasions have had different requests similar to the one above put to me. ie. 'Come on Eileen' and 'Bat out of Hell'.

To arrange these pieces of music for the commercial market you obviously have to apply for copyright permission which can sometimes take months to obtain and usually at great expense. Because of this I have never followed up these requests as I presumed there would not be sufficient sales to cover the costs of producing the arrangements.

However, through this Forum site there is now an opportunity for you to voice your ideas and opinions as to what new music you would like to see available for band.

If there is an overwhelming interest in arranging music of a particular genre, then I might just re-consider the commercial element and pursue some of the ideas.

Today's Brass Band Publishers are churning out all sorts of new arrangements - usually the latest cinema blockbuster - which is all well and good, but to be honest, is only as popular and topical as long as it is being shown at the Cinema!

Some of the 'Classic' rock/pop tunes date back 20 - 30 years and are still as popular today. So it might be an avenue well worth exploring.

If you have any suggestions please give as much information on the music as possible. This will help me identify the publishing companies involved and speed up any copyright requests.

I look forward to your replies.

[dyl]

Personally I've been looking for a song called 'Pity The Child' from the musical 'Chess' by those blokes from Abba. I heard this for the first time this summer being sun in an open air concert at the Faenol Festival in Bangor and the song has stuck with me ever since.

I had hoped that there was an arrangement, selfishly, of this song as a horn solo :wink: , but haven't managed to find an arrangement of it.

Also, I really love the musical 'Miss Saigon' but find that there is a severe shortage of brass band arrangements of the songs from this musical - songs which I believe would go down extremely well in concerts.

[Roger Thorne]

Hi Dylan,

Thanks for the suggestion.

I am not that familiar with the music, but I have just visited a 'Chess' Web Site and listened to the music 'Pity the Child'. Good isn't it! - I agree, it would make a lovely horn solo.

I will make some further enquiries regarding copyrights and costs.
It may be a while before I hear anything from the publishers but if I'm successful in a copyright application I'll let you know.

:wink:

[rutty]

Not new stuff, but I've always thought that Gustav Mahler is overlooked quite a bit for arrangement. My favourite piece of music of all time is his second symphony "Resurrection" that has the finale to end all finales!

The fourth movement though is a gorgeous Soprano solo and I think that it would make a wonderful solo for cornet. I think arranging the whole symphony would be a bit of a task, seeing as it's 70 mins in length!

I also like the music to Stargate but I think there's already an arrangement of that. What about the theme to Farscape? Would be a challange </scifi geek!>

[dyl]

Hi Dylan,

Thanks for the suggestion.

I am not that familiar with the music, but I have just visited a 'Chess' Web Site and listened to the music 'Pity the Child'. Good isn't it! - I agree, it would make a lovely horn solo.

I will make some further enquiries regarding copyrights and costs.
It may be a while before I hear anything from the publishers but if I'm successful in a copyright application I'll let you know.

:wink:

Hi Roger

I'm glad you agree! I hope you have some success.

Cheers,

Dylan.

[Roger Thorne]

Hi, Rutty.

I agree, some of Mahlers' works would make terrific band pieces. As far as I am aware his music is public domain (not copyrighted) so producing an arrangement should not be a problem.
I have a couple of LP's (remember them!) of his symphonies so I shall root them out and have a listen over the Christmas break.
As you suggest, due to the length (70 mins!!) it may be worth selecting just the 'juicey bits' or just the fourth movement and producing it as a solo item.
I'm not sure about the other two, 'Stargate' and 'Farscape' but I'll make some enquiries.

Thanks for your suggestions.

:wink:

[Roger Thorne]

Dylan wrote:


I really love the musical 'Miss Saigon' but find that there is a severe shortage of brass band arrangements of the songs from this musical - songs which I believe would go down extremely well in concerts.

Hi Dyl,

I have just come across a Midi file site which has a Brass Band arrangement of the music from Miss Saigon - thought you might be interested. I have checked the Just Brass Catalogue and it is arranged by Andre Waignein, although the price is not available. It sounds like a good arrangement.

Click the following link for a listen.

http://www.classicalmidi.gothere.uk.com/brassfilm.htm

:D

[picju96]

our percussionist is arranging miss saigon for brass band at the moment. its just being finalised.

[dyl]

Dylan wrote:


I really love the musical 'Miss Saigon' but find that there is a severe shortage of brass band arrangements of the songs from this musical - songs which I believe would go down extremely well in concerts.

Hi Dyl,

I have just come across a Midi file site which has a Brass Band arrangement of the music from Miss Saigon - thought you might be interested. I have checked the Just Brass Catalogue and it is arranged by Andre Waignein, although the price is not available. It sounds like a good arrangement.

Click the following link for a listen.

http://www.classicalmidi.gothere.uk.com/brassfilm.htm

:D

Thanks Roger.

Happy New Year to you when it comes! :D

[dyl]

our percussionist is arranging miss saigon for brass band at the moment. its just being finalised.

Please keep me informed!

[hornblower]

we did a version of "The Battle of Jericho" arr for a wind band, incl flutes, clarinets, etc as well as brass... however it is sooo good I wondered if anyone had come across it arr for just brass?

[sparkling_quavers]

What about an arrangement of 'it's raining men'?

[Fishsta]

LOL... It's Raining Men?

That would be another addition to the "Cheese" list, I think! :D

[sparkling_quavers]

nothing wrong with cheese :wink:

so, do you reckon you could do that....you might sell one copy ! 8)

[picju96]

we did a version of "The Battle of Jericho" arr for a wind band, incl flutes, clarinets, etc as well as brass... however it is sooo good I wondered if anyone had come across it arr for just brass?

ah thats great! we did it in school this christmas with a chamber orchestra and an 80ish person choir, it was great!

[hornblower]

I know.... we did it at school in the wind band... I miss it... have a really bad reacording of us tunelessly killing it, and it still sounds like a good piece of music!!!

[davidsait]

nothing wrong with cheese :wink:

Indeed.


However, what *I'd* like is for Brass Band arrangements of film music to be available within a month of the film being premiered at the cinema, rather than us having to wait 12 months (or longer), and everyone forgetting how the tune goes.
You often find that the guitar, or 'easy piano' arrangements are in the shops pretty quickly for people to pick through, but it sometimes seems ages before the band version is released.
Hopefully now that Warner has its own Brass Band catalogue, some of their film music will be swifter to print, but I'd like to see more cooperation between the movie companies and music publishers.
I realise that a good arrangement takes time, but it is surely possible to improve the current situation.
Example. The score for Chicken Run is still in manuscript, not published (at least, it wasn't in December). I'd have loved to play that a month after the film was shown, or even sooner, but its getting a little late now.

Dave Sait

[stephen2001]

we did a version of "The Battle of Jericho" arr for a wind band, incl flutes, clarinets, etc as well as brass... however it is sooo good I wondered if anyone had come across it arr for just brass?

It's great for trombones when all the parts are covered! I played it at the Albert Hall (Nottingham!) and wondered if there might have been a BB arrangement of it.
It would be a pity if there isn't! :?

[Roger Thorne]

Davidsait wrote:


However, what I'd like is for Brass Band arrangements of film music to be available within a month of the film being premiered at the cinema, rather than us having to wait 12 months (or longer), and everyone forgetting how the tune goes.

I'd like to see more cooperation between the movie companies and music publishers.

I believe the problem here is the Music Publishers not the movie companies. I publish Brass Band music, and I am constantly applying for copyright permissions for all sorts of music, but sometimes have to wait months for copyright's to be granted.

To give you an example I applied to a Music Publishing Company in London for copyright permission to the song 'Up On The Roof' back in April, 2000. At the time the song had just been re-released by Robson and Jerome, who you will remember were very popular at the time. The publishers requested that they see a copy of the arrangement before granting copyright permission. I returned a copy of the score within two weeks.
After numerous letters and e-mails I eventually got a reply in March 2001 apologising for the delay. They had granted me permission to arrange the music and promised to send the copyright acknowledgements as soon as possible. Again after many reminders I am still waiting for the copyright acknowledgement to arrive. It is now 2003! - Robson and Jerome having long gone!

I have recently talked to Ray Farr about this issue and he assured me that he too has the same problems. It is quite common to wait several months for the publishers to respond to any copyright applications, if they even bother to reply at all.

On the other hand I have recently e-mailed another Music Publisher in London requesting four copyright applications and they have replied, favourably I might add, within six days.

If anyone knows any secrets for speeding up copyright applications please make sure I'm the first to know!!

[davidsait]

Davidsait wrote:


However, what I'd like is for Brass Band arrangements of film music to be available within a month of the film being premiered at the cinema, rather than us having to wait 12 months (or longer), and everyone forgetting how the tune goes.

I'd like to see more cooperation between the movie companies and music publishers.

I believe the problem here is the Music Publishers not the movie companies. I publish Brass Band music, and I am constantly applying for copyright permissions for all sorts of music, but sometimes have to wait months for copyright's to be granted.

I thought that might be the case. What I'd like is for the movie companies to be contacting publishers and composers to get the arrangements done. Ok, that might not be how it works now, but it would be good if it did.

Dave Sait

[davidsait]

we did a version of "The Battle of Jericho" arr for a wind band, incl flutes, clarinets, etc as well as brass... however it is sooo good I wondered if anyone had come across it arr for just brass?

It's great for trombones when all the parts are covered! I played it at the Albert Hall (Nottingham!) and wondered if there might have been a BB arrangement of it.
It would be a pity if there isn't! :?

As that as in 'Joshua fought the Battle of Jericho', 'cos if so, it has been done for brass band - its first in a suite of 3 tunes, all gospel tunes I think, but the name of the suite escapes me at the moment. Also, justmusicuk.com have an arrangement by Smith-Masters listed.

Dave Sait

[PeterBale]

If anyone is looking for an unusual take on Jericho, has an able narrator and is prepared to put some work into rehearsing the band's verbal contributions, then Bill Himes' "Jericho Revisited" is worth considering. It presents a humorous take on the story, and can be very effective. Originally written, I believe, for his own Chicago Staff Band there is also a wind band version.

[Janet Watkins]

As that as in 'Joshua fought the Battle of Jericho', 'cos if so, it has been done for brass band - its first in a suite of 3 tunes, all gospel tunes I think, but the name of the suite escapes me at the moment. Also, justmusicuk.com have an arrangement by Smith-Masters listed.

Dave Sait


I think you are referring to Spiritual Sounds as arranged by Alan Fernie and published by Obrasso of Switzerland.

The other tunes are: 'Swing Low, Sweet Chariot' and 'Peter Go Ring Them Bells & Nobody Knows the Trouble I See'

HTH

[davidsait]

As that as in 'Joshua fought the Battle of Jericho',
I think you are referring to Spiritual Sounds as arranged by Alan Fernie and published by Obrasso of Switzerland.
Thats the one! Thanks.

Dave Sait

[Di B]

we did a version of "The Battle of Jericho" arr for a wind band, incl flutes, clarinets, etc as well as brass... however it is sooo good I wondered if anyone had come across it arr for just brass?

Have you played 'Spiritual Sounds'? First movement is based on it and it is an enjoyable piece to play. In fact all three movements are quite nice.... least favourite is the the third/final one but certainly worth a look at in my opinion :)

[hornblower]

have not no... but the piece we had is a good few minutes long, v dramatic, so think it's a different type of arrangement... cheers though guys will look into it!

[stephen2001]

I think that Joshua Fought the Battle, the Concert Band arrangement was done by a guy called Charles Richard Spinney.

It is the only concert band arrangement I have found of it after doing a quick search of the internet and I couldn't find a brass band arrangement by the same guy.

[hornblower]

alas you are right...that is the piece....what a shame.... :cry:

[midwalesman]

How about some Bartok, Stravinsky and even some movements from Vaughan Williams' Sea symphony with optional chorus parts for concerts with choirs!!?? Shoshtakovich Leningrad symphony...1st movement ?

[Owen]

Being purely selfish, I would love to see some decent new repertoire for baritone! There are only a few decent solos with band accompaniment about and once you have played them all where next? Euph solos? Hmm.

On a less selfish note, I think it would be great if some of the great show tunes were arranged for band - we probably all played the selections from South Pacific / My Fair Lady etc which whilst they are fair renditions of the tunes are not alll that imaginative. I seem to remember playing a Catherall arrangement of Oklahoma a few years ago when I helped out Frickley on a job, which was good fun to play as well as being a good concert piece. There is some good music in there languishing under not so good arrangements!

All the best

Owen

[Roger Thorne]

A lot of these selections are now nearly fifty/sixty years old and I agree some of the more popular tunes amongst them could do with being re-arranged and perhaps given a Catherall or Snell makeover.
A lot of band audiences are still made up of people who remember these great tunes first hand, so maybe its time for a 'Musical/Showtime' rivival.

Midwalesman wrote:


How about some Bartok, Stravinsky and even some movements from Vaughan Williams' Sea symphony with optional chorus parts for concerts with choirs!!?? Shoshtakovich Leningrad symphony...1st movement ?

The above composers music is not readily available because their music is still in copyright. A lot of people presumme that a list of 'dead' composers like the one above existed around the same time as Beethoven and Mozart but they are in fact all modern day composers.

Bartok 1881 - 1945
Stravinsky 1882 - 1971
Williams 1872 - 1958
Shosty 1906 - 1975

So unless the publishers grant copyright permissions you'll have to continue playing the Floral Dance! :cry:

[Brian]

It was possible to get music whilst it is still popular...I remember Bestwood Band in Nottingham, playing at the Pre London opening of the films Sound of Music and Mary Poppins, outside a cinema in Nottingham. We had arrangements done by a London firm, might have been Brons Orchestral Services. And if you look at Dance Bands/Big Bands, they have arrangements as the pieces are released. There used to be a firm in Leeds that specialized in these, for any combination of instruments..again Bestwood had several at one time..

[sparkling_quavers]

It was possible to get music whilst it is still popular...I remember Bestwood Band in Nottingham, playing at the Pre London opening of the films Sound of Music and Mary Poppins, outside a cinema in Nottingham. We had arrangements done by a London firm, might have been Brons Orchestral Services. And if you look at Dance Bands/Big Bands, they have arrangements as the pieces are released. There used to be a firm in Leeds that specialized in these, for any combination of instruments..again Bestwood had several at one time..

Yeah the band has a massive library...I will have a look through and see what I can come up with! 8)

[Brian]

It was possible to get music whilst it is still popular...I remember Bestwood Band in Nottingham, playing at the Pre London opening of the films Sound of Music and Mary Poppins, outside a cinema in Nottingham. We had arrangements done by a London firm, might have been Brons Orchestral Services. And if you look at Dance Bands/Big Bands, they have arrangements as the pieces are released. There used to be a firm in Leeds that specialized in these, for any combination of instruments..again Bestwood had several at one time..

Yeah the band has a massive library...I will have a look through and see what I can come up with! 8) I wouldn't waste my time if I were you,Sarkling Quavers..I looked for some when I was M.D. that I knew the band had in the 1960's,but to no avail..including the two selections I mentioned, of Mary Poppins and the Sound of Music..Both mss arrangements, and far better than the printed versions that came out two years later.. Try asking Newstead, in that period they were the Bestwood Junior Band, and had loads of music from the library, which was never seen again...and I mean lots...when I was librarian, there was over 2500 full sets of music, when I returned some years later there was less than 900...but nobody knew where they had gone..Almost all of the library that was purchased from the Sankeys Castle Works Band, an ex Championship section Band,had disappeared.....Brian

[sparkling_quavers]

Yep I know lots of stuff went missing...still loads there though. Loads of it is stored under the stage at the welfare and with the uphaul which is going on at teh moment it should be easier to get hold of it! They are knocking the community centre down and building a new welfare. Eventually we are gonna have a new band room which is even nearer to the bar. Nice to see you have been putting a few comments on our site Brian (even if they were picking faults :roll: )

[bigcol]

Fantasia on a Theme by Thomas Tallis by RVW.

[cornetgirl]

Fantasia on a Theme by Thomas Tallis by RVW.

Ooh yes....that would be nice! Wonder if anyone's arranged it...

My all time fave is the slow movt of Rachmaninov 2nd Symphony but I don't think it would work for band.

Has the Schindler's List theme been arranged for band - that is one nice piece...

[sparkling_quavers]

Has the Schindler's List theme been arranged for band - that is one nice piece...

Yes it definately has...don't remember the arranger though *not much help*

[dyl]

Has the Schindler's List theme been arranged for band - that is one nice piece...

Yes it definately has...don't remember the arranger though *not much help*

There are two arrangements that I know of. The better one (imo) is by Sandy Smith and was on the Kirkintillock CD 'Summon The Heroes'. the other arr. which I've played is by Frank Bernaerts.

[Lannerman]

Does anyone know of any music for band and ladies choir?

Please help

Fanx.

[NottinghamFlorist]

How about 'Hey Big Spender'. --- But only if its the usual white haired, octaganerian, church choir.

:twisted: Sorry couldn't resist that

[PeterBale]

Cornetgirl asks for an arrangement of Rachmaninov's 2nd symphony. There is a cornet solo arrangement of the Adagio, arranged by Ray Farr, and recorded on the cd Vitae Lux by YBS.

[cornetgirl]

Ooooooh!!!!! Wow!!!!!!!!! :D :D :D

Sorry...it is SUCH a gorgeous piece...must see if it's in the library... *frantically scribbles it down and remembers to harrass the librarian on Wednesday!* :D

[Lannerman]

Thanks to NottinghamFlorist for the great suggestion. :lol:

Does it matter if its the usual white haired, octaganerian, church choir, should raise a laugh (as well as a few heart murmers) if nothing else.

Or what about a new composition, "Blue Rinse Blues".

Food for thought I guess. :?

[Straightmute]

Ooooooh!!!!! Wow!!!!!!!!! :D :D :D

Sorry...it is SUCH a gorgeous piece...must see if it's in the library... *frantically scribbles it down and remembers to harrass the librarian on Wednesday!* :D

CG - no, it's not in the library and I'm amazed that our dentist should be advocating anything as sweet and sticky as Rachmaninov 2!!! It's a very gloopy* arrangement too!

But, to cheer you up, I popped into Banks's music shop this afternoon and picked up a set, so we can wade through it at rehearsal tomorrow night. Don't forget your wellies.

Cheers

D

* a word borrowed from my 4 year-old son used to describe daddy's cooking.

[cornetgirl]

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

You angel!!!!!!!!!!!!! (wonders if it's appropriate to hug an MD or whether it leads to incarceration in a padded cell!!! :? )

How many pints do I owe you now??????

*skips off into the sunset singing to herself*

yes I'm a sad moo but I don't care!

[Straightmute]

On a different tack - has anyone arranged the March from Richard Strauss' Symphonic Metamorphosen???

It would make a cracking arrangement - I just can't believe it hasn't been done already...

D

[cornetgirl]

On a different tack - has anyone arranged the March from Richard Strauss' Symphonic Metamorphosen???

It would make a cracking arrangement - I just can't believe it hasn't been done already...

D

That a hint???? :)

[cornetgirl]

Strauss's Metamorphosen for 23 solo strings is a rather gorgeous piece and would work nicely for band - has that been done yet?

Also Walton's Orb & Sceptre - I know Mint Imperial's been done but Orb & Sceptre's my personal fave - heard it done on organ at weddings but don't know if there's a band arrangement!

There's some lovely stuff out there that nobody's ever thought of doing for band I bet... :)

[Roger Thorne]

JUST MUSIC have a published version of Walton's Orb & Sceptre

Parts £57.00 - Score £26.00

[Hornblower RN]

Has anyone ever considered working on the the theme music from "Jaws"? Personally I believe it to be a cracking piece of music..got the soundtrack somewhere :oops:

[Heather]

Its already been done.
I've got it on an old LP by Royal Doulton Band.

[Heather]

Forgot to say......will someone PLEASE do an arrangement of the theme to 'The Simpsons'.
My husband drives me mad each time it comes on as he says the same old thing..' someone should arrange this for brass band'.
Maybe he's got a point.

[Keppler]

Isn;t the simpsons part of the Cartoon Suite on that Warner Bros CD? "The Big Picture"?

Only heard it once, and my fogged memory is not co-operating

PS, I hate the simpsons.. especially the music..
(apart from that episode where HS gets James Bond killed.. class..)

[Straightmute]

Forgot to say......will someone PLEASE do an arrangement of the theme to 'The Simpsons'.
My husband drives me mad each time it comes on as he says the same old thing..' someone should arrange this for brass band'.
Maybe he's got a point.

Phil Lawrence has done a very good arrangement. I got it from Mostyn Music. Works well - and is very 'authentic', including Lisa's sax solo on bass trombone!!! - but it isn't easy.

D

[Heather]

Thanks for the info. I'll tell him as soon as he gets home from work.
Might speak to our conductor about getting it too.

[cornetgirl]

Phil Lawrence has done a very good arrangement. I got it from Mostyn Music. Works well - and is very 'authentic', including Lisa's sax solo on bass trombone!!! - but it isn't easy.

D

It's a cracking arrangement! Even asks for deliberate split notes - ideal for me as I can split 'em without even trying... :D

[HBB]

Phil Lawrence has done a very good arrangement. I got it from Mostyn Music. Works well - and is very 'authentic', including Lisa's sax solo on bass trombone!!! - but it isn't easy.

D

It's a cracking arrangement! Even asks for deliberate split notes - ideal for me as I can split 'em without even trying... :D


So I guess I'm not the only one then!!! :P :P

[HBB]

Has the Schindler's List theme been arranged for band - that is one nice piece...

Yes it definately has...don't remember the arranger though *not much help*

There are two arrangements that I know of. The better one (imo) is by Sandy Smith and was on the Kirkintillock CD 'Summon The Heroes'. the other arr. which I've played is by Frank Bernaerts.


How surprising, was it all Front - Row cornet stuff. I think he needs a talking to about arranging - I vote for Roger!
:lol:

[BoozyBTrom]

I would like to see an arrangement of the theme from Stargate SG1. I reckon it would sound great written for brass.

And as a trombone trio the song "Bad Guys" from Bugsy Malone.

You know the one. The daft gangsters sing it in the street.

[sparkling_quavers]

And as a trombone trio the song "Bad Guys" from Bugsy Malone.

You know the one. The daft gangsters sing it in the street.

Roger, another job for you!!!!

[BoozyBTrom]

Roger, another job for you!!!!

If it got arranged it could then go in the i love cheese discussion

[Roger Thorne]

The 'Vulture' Song from Jungle Book would make a brilliant Trombone Trio.

I'll make some enquiries !

:wink:

[BoozyBTrom]

The 'Vulture' Song from Jungle Book would make a brilliant Trombone Trio.

I'll make some enquiries !

:wink:

Even Better.

[cornetgirl]

Has any of the music from Chicago been done for band? Just listening to the soundtrack and Mr. Cellophane would make one hell of a trom solo!

Rach x

[You wanna blow my what?]

Bit random, but The Maytals "message to you Rudy" would be amazing! If arranged properly, and if it didn't go on too much.......

Come to think of it, quite a few ska tsongs would be cool!

(I'm not the worlds biggest ska fan.....honest! :roll: )

[cornetgirl]

Another idea.... has anyone arranged Walton's Spitfire Prelude & Fugue for band? Or Tchaikovsky's Andante Cantabile from the 1st string quartet?

Rach x

[PeterBale]

Spitfire prelude and fugue has been arranged for brass, and there is at least one recording, by the Household Troops Band of the Salvation Army on their cd The Sound of Britain. Neither of the websites I have checked this morning list the arranger, but I can check when I get home tonight and post it in the morning, if no-one else has beaten me to it!

[dave jake]

Wot about the theme music from the greatest movie of all time, Ray Harryhausen s JASON AND THE ARGONAUTS.Would be ace with stacks of drums ,timps and things. I am a deffy customer for this one.

Hopefully :) :?: :) Dave

[Roger Thorne]

Wot about the theme music from the greatest movie of all time, Ray Harryhausen s JASON AND THE ARGONAUTS.Would be ace with stacks of drums ,timps and things. I am a deffy customer for this one.

Hopefully :) :?: :) Dave

I can't help you with JASON, but you might be interested in my latest arrangement I'm currently working on.

I've recently secured copyright on the film music from CLASH OF THE TITANS. I am currently working on the score.

It will include the Main Theme, Joppa (The Market Place), and the beautiful Love Theme, ending again with a reprise of the Main Theme.

It should be ready for publication in a few weeks - shall I reserve you a copy Dave?

:wink:

[BoozyBTrom]

What about a brass band arrangement of the end credit music from Guest House Paradiso

the Bonzo Dog Doo Dah Bands, Jazz, Delicious Hot, Disgusting Cold.

Would love to see a band manage that one

:wink:

[dave jake]

[quote="Roger Thorne"]



I've recently secured copyright on the film music from CLASH OF THE TITANS. I am currently working on the score.

Just been looking for my video,can t find it and can t remember the tunes but if its got lots of drums in I ll have it 8)

[PeterBale]

Regarding Walton's Spitfire Prelude and Fugue: I checked the sleeve notes on Sounds of Britain and it doesn't give an arranger, although it credits it to Oxford University Press. I did spot this morning, however, that the new volume of Spectacular classics includes the Fugue arranged by Alan Fernie.

[Fishsta]

2 suggestions... one totally non-serious and one genuine one.

Non-serious first, then.... :D

Ever thought of arranging "They're Coming To Take Me Away"?



OK, seriously now... it might already have been done, but if it has I've never seen or heard it!

"Conquest of Paradise" by Vangelis.

One hell of a piece. It gets played before the start of every Wigan Warriors home game at the JJB stadium.

[froggy]

I would like to get my hands on Mcarthur Park, like the Grimethorpe Colliery Band play.

Its sweeeeet...

[Keppler]

There's an arrangement of Conquest of Paradise under the Frank Bernearts Label. Grimethorpe have recorded it on one of their CDs somewhere..

[BoozyBTrom]

McArthur park was Arranged for Grimethopre by Alan Catheral ( who plays cornet in my band) We have asked him a few times to let us have a copy but in his own words " I arranged it for them and only them" there may be a few dodgy copies out there ( naughty naughty ) but as a published copy of that arrangement goes no chance.

[cornetgirl]

Just thought I'd rescue this topic...

I've just been listening to the most recently released Carpenters album and heard a gorgeous song called The Rainbow Connection which I believe was originally in The Muppet Movie.

It would be a wonderful band piece - has it been arranged?

Rach x

[nickjones]

On a different tack - has anyone arranged the March from Richard Strauss' Symphonic Metamorphosen???

It would make a cracking arrangement - I just can't believe it hasn't been done already...

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Do you mean the March from Paul Hindemith " Symphonic Metaphorisis on themes by Weber"? the Finale March has been arranged by Keith Wilkinson.
just seen this thread...Still would like to see some arrangement of "Golden Brown" by the stranglers

[midwalesman]

How about the final movement from Bartok Concerto for orchestra or the final bit of the Rite of Spring with additional trumpets and a picc. Then again trtanscriptions/arrangements of Gill Fuller or Tad Dameron big band stuff that was done for the Dizzy Gillespie Big Band. Or maybe, the music that gypsy band musicians play in Romania (I hear that such a group is being formed at the Northern) or the band music played by the bands in the Conima festivals in Peru, or in fact the up tempo beats and rhythms of the bands in the North Western part of Brazil. Cuban music might also prove an interesting projesct for percussionists!

Loads of folky kind of stuff out there.

Richard

[Phil De-Zoot]

That 4th movement "Urlicht" (for gorgeous ALTO), has been done by Phil Lawrence for solo flg (too low for Eb sop), from Mostynmusic.com, by the way!




Not new stuff, but I've always thought that Gustav Mahler is overlooked quite a bit for arrangement. My favourite piece of music of all time is his second symphony "Resurrection" that has the finale to end all finales!

The fourth movement though is a gorgeous Soprano solo and I think that it would make a wonderful solo for cornet. I think arranging the whole symphony would be a bit of a task, seeing as it's 70 mins in length!

I also like the music to Stargate but I think there's already an arrangement of that. What about the theme to Farscape? Would be a challange </scifi geek!>

[Dave Payn]

The problem with Richard Strauss works is that their estate usually refuse to allow any transcriptions of his works. Myself and a friend of mine have been longing to transcribe his brass ensemble works for band, but usually get met with a firm 'no'.

I think the reason for their refusal is that some years back, Geoffrey Emerson arranged a short fanfare from Strauss's Festmusik for the PJBE which was sanctioned by the estate, providing the arrangement stayed with the group. It appears that someone transcribed their recording of this from the LP and starting selling it. These aren't my words, but the tale as it appears in the book 'The Odyssey OF The Philip Jones Brass Ensemble' (BIM Editions, 1986).

As for other copyright stuff, certainly in the classical field, I think it depends on the copyright owner to an extent as to how long it can take to clear. Best not diss any publishers here, but on the flip side, I've usually found Stainer and Bell to be pretty helpful and quick.

As for the Mahler, I like the idea, but I'm not convinced by arranging 'excerpts' from it. Get enough of that treatment on Classic FM! It's why I ditched my idea of arranging Mars from the Planets in its original key for band, though I'm planning to arrange the whole suite for large brass ensemble.

The stuff I'd like to see. Well, obviously quality original works (I'm not saying we're not getting them but we need to see these works still coming) but as for arrangements, I'd LIKE to see much more Bach but realise that his music doesn't always sit well on brass. Particularly in the banding world, the only non brass instruments would be the timpani and I think to add side drum, cymbals etc. etc. would *******ize the great man's works. In the case of Bach's orchestral works it has the added time consumer of realising figured bass to 'flesh out' the harmonies (unless to employ an acoustic harpsichord!).

Still, expect some arrangements and transcriptions of Paul Dukas' La Peri fanfare and Sorceror's Apprentice - not necessarily from me! (I know Derek Bourgeois has already made one) as he goes out of copyright next year!

[Despot]

My First, My Last, My Everything.....give 'em some Barry White baby! :)

Soooooo surprised this hasn't been done already!

[brassneck]

I would like to see short, witty original compositions that cheekily engage the audience as well as keeping players on their toes (... call for Elgar Howarth to start writing again! :) )

[Will the Sec]

My First, My Last, My Everything.....give 'em some Barry White baby! :)

Soooooo surprised this hasn't been done already!

I thought there was a Bass Trombone solo out...

[Anno Draconis]

some arrangements and transcriptions of Paul Dukas' La Peri fanfare and Sorceror's Apprentice - not necessarily from me! (I know Derek Bourgeois has already made one) as he goes out of copyright next year!

Isn't there a Stephen Roberts arrangement of the fanfare from La Peri already? I'm sure I've played it...

As far as Bach is concerned parts of the Christmas Cantata would work, and Stokowski's orchestral transcriptions could be a good model. John Adams Short Ride in a Fast Machine would work, but only playable by a few bands. What about the music from The Italian Job (including the songs On Days Like These and Self-Preservation Society)?

[Dave Payn]

Isn't there a Stephen Roberts arrangement of the fanfare from La Peri already? I'm sure I've played it...

As far as Bach is concerned parts of the Christmas Cantata would work, and Stokowski's orchestral transcriptions could be a good model. John Adams Short Ride in a Fast Machine would work, but only playable by a few bands. What about the music from The Italian Job (including the songs On Days Like These and Self-Preservation Society)?

I believe Stephen Roberts has arranged La Peri fanfare, but haven't played it, though once a piece of music goes out of copyright, there's no reason for more than one arrangement of it to appear, of course.