View Full Version : A band with no horns - split from dreams thread.
jingleram
29.07.2005, 00:23
I had a horrible dream the other day :(
I dreampt that Sandy Smith didn't come to the auditions and said he wouldn't do the tutoring for the week at NYBB, So, Philip Biggs said, "well if there isn't a horn tutor, how are the horns meant to learn the pieces, they can't be in the band if they cant play the pieces, this means we dont have a full band... (this is the bad bit)... WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CANCELL THE COURSE!!:eek: At which point I started crying, and then he came up to me and said that I wasn't good enough for the band and wouldn't be allowed back permanently!! Unless I showed him some proof of a Grd 8 or something, but he wouldn't accept that certificate because it wasn't an orchestral exam :confused:! So, I wasn't allowed in NYBB again, and I went home and got an orange yogurt out of the fridge and sat and cried on the sofa! :(
It was a sad dream! :(
LOL! A band without horns, wow that would be a dream!!:D
you're not related to uncle duncan are you by any chance? ;)
Vickitorious
29.07.2005, 00:30
LOL! A band without horns, wow that would be a dream!!:D
I'll pretend I didn't hear that! :eek:
jingleram
29.07.2005, 00:34
If I said it again, put it in bold, italics, and underlined it would it help?
Vickitorious
29.07.2005, 00:38
Nope! I'll still.. "pretend"
Either that or I'll call my mum .. (dinie) and get her to edit it!! :p So that no further horn players are insulted! :wink:
hehe!
jingleram
29.07.2005, 00:41
Haha yes i realised the connection. I have nothing against horn players, just the instruments they play, because they are, afterall just miniature baritones!
Vickitorious
29.07.2005, 00:45
Hehehe! No.. you see thats where you're wrong.. Baritones are just BIG horns! ;)
But if what you were saying there was because you don't like baritones.. then... horns aren't related at all.. they were just an idea someone came up with a whiile ago ? :confused:
:p
jingleram
29.07.2005, 00:48
I had this conversation 3 days ago with a friend, and managed to relate every instrument in the band to the euphonium, because all brass life stems from the euphonium! If you want to choose to play a fake instrument that's fine by me!
Vickitorious
29.07.2005, 00:51
Hmmm... that can't work!! Lets just relate everything to the HORN.. because ages and ages ago some clever chappie made a cow 'horn' thing into a 'horn' lol! then a trumpet thing.. called.. you gottit.. a 'horn' :p ..
I think I'm going to get modded by my own mum in a minute..
That would be totally uncool! :rolleyes:
Haha yes i realised the connection. I have nothing against horn players, just the instruments they play, because they are, afterall just miniature baritones!
And what would be wrong with that???
Guess who's a baritone player??? Hmm mm, thats right. ;):tongue:
Vickitorious
29.07.2005, 00:53
I did get modded by my own mum!!
:eek:
jingleram
29.07.2005, 00:55
Thought the split in threads was inevitable really! There is nothng wrong with baritones, I love them almost as much as euphs! I was putting your daughter the HORN PLAYER in her place. Please forgive me (in the knowledge that she plays HORN not baritone or euphonium).
Vickitorious
29.07.2005, 00:57
I'm not strong enough to play baritone or euphonium.. they're too heavy :(
Don't worry, I'm sure she deserves everything she gets ;)
jingleram
29.07.2005, 01:02
Haha interesting thing is, I had a conversation with an M.D. last year about what he would put in 'Room 101' if he could, and his very first answer was second horn players! With no prompting from me, a prestigious Conductor (he who must not be named) would get rid of second horns!
Vickitorious
29.07.2005, 01:03
Don't worry, I'm sure she deserves everything she gets ;)
:eek: Im gobsmacked!
Vickitorious
29.07.2005, 01:05
Haha interesting thing is, I had a conversation with an M.D. last year about what he would put in 'Room 101' if he could, and his very first answer was second horn players! With no prompting from me, a prestigious Conductor (he who must not be named) would get rid of second horns!
Noooooooooooooooooo!!!! WHY!?!
jingleram
29.07.2005, 01:06
Need you ask? If you would only look at your instrument, you would understand.
Dave Payn
29.07.2005, 01:09
Haha yes i realised the connection. I have nothing against horn players, just the instruments they play, because they are, afterall just miniature baritones!
What, and with the baritone often cited as the 'viola' of the brass band?
(Just jesting :) :))
Vickitorious
29.07.2005, 01:10
But my baby is lovely! I could look at it all day... :rolleyes:
jingleram
29.07.2005, 01:10
Ooh jest not my friend for fear of being shot down by the one they call Mumsie!
jingleram
29.07.2005, 01:11
But my baby is lovely! I could look at it all day... :rolleyes:
If it was covered by it's case then yes I would agree on principle.
Dave Payn
29.07.2005, 01:12
Ooh jest not my friend for fear of being shot down by the one they call Mumsie!
Mumsie knows I don't mean it (I hope..... oo-er! ;))
Vickitorious
29.07.2005, 01:13
oooooh she is a scary woman you know!!
When she's in tMP Mod Mood, I daren't disturb her! In fact.. I'm too scared to go downstairs and get a drink!!
Vickitorious
29.07.2005, 01:14
If it was covered by it's case then yes I would agree on principle.
:eek: What can I say back to that? :eek:
jingleram
29.07.2005, 01:15
oooooh she is a scary woman you know!!
When she's in tMP Mod Mood, I daren't disturb her! In fact.. I'm too scared to go downstairs and get a drink!!
Hang on, earlier you said you would phone her, yet now you say she is downstairs. That must mean that either mumsie made a very speedy return from somewhere with computer, or you are incredibly lazy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D
Hang on, earlier you said you would phone her, yet now you say she is downstairs. That must mean that either mumsie made a very speedy return from somewhere with computer, or you are incredibly lazy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D
Come on, she's a teenager!! What do you expect. :wink:
Vickitorious
29.07.2005, 01:18
Hang on, earlier you said you would phone her, yet now you say she is downstairs. That must mean that either mumsie made a very speedy return from somewhere with computer, or you are incredibly lazy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D
Noooo I said I'd 'call' her... meaning 'shout down the stairs and hope that dad doesn't wake up... OR just speak to her on MSN' :rolleyes:
Does that still mean I'm lazy? :confused: hehe
Dave Payn
29.07.2005, 01:19
Come on, she's a teenager!! What do you expect. :wink:
What's she doing up that this time of night? ;)
(Come to think of it, what am I doing up at this time of night? Where's me Horlicks? :))
jingleram
29.07.2005, 01:22
Haha slightly more forgivable! I suppose I do the same! Anyhoo, I think you should move onto baritone.
Come on, she's a teenager!! What do you expect. :wink:
So am I!!! Us teenagers don't like being sterotyped 'cause we're all new age!!!!
What's she doing up that this time of night? ;)
(Come to think of it, what am I doing up at this time of night? Where's me Horlicks? :))
Quiet right, as much fun as this has been i must insist the lil madam gets some sleep, big weekend ahead and all that. But I dare say she'll be back to continue the horns defence tomorrow, backed up by another horn player. ;)
Vickitorious
29.07.2005, 01:24
Haha slightly more forgivable! I suppose I do the same! Anyhoo, I think you should move onto baritone.
So am I!!! Us teenagers don't like being sterotyped 'cause we're all new age!!!!
I dont.. It would mean going to the gym or using my brothers weights to build up muscles to be able to hold it.. It's not worth the effort.. :rolleyes:
Anyway.. My mouth isn't big enough for the mouthpiece! :tongue:
jingleram
29.07.2005, 01:27
Aww cmon the baritone is marginally heavier than the horn, and granted the mouthpiece is quite alot bigger, but the sound quality is so much better! Just think no more dodgy split register between G's and A's! And who knows, it may one day lead onto euphonium!!!
Vickitorious
29.07.2005, 01:30
Aww cmon the baritone is marginally heavier than the horn, and granted the mouthpiece is quite alot bigger, but the sound quality is so much better! Just think no more dodgy split register between G's and A's! And who knows, it may one day lead onto euphonium!!!
No, it's OK thanks! ;)
And the sound quality?? :eek: No waaay!! :eek:
jingleram
29.07.2005, 01:34
Ok let's put it like this. The tenor horn is to the flugel horn what the clarinet is to the oboe.
Dave Payn
29.07.2005, 01:40
Perhaps, Jingleram but I could start a conversation about French horns (I've done that before on this forum..... with particular reference to the possibility of French horns' inclusion in brass bands! Boy, did that start something! :))
Vickitorious
29.07.2005, 01:42
The flugel sounds like a duck and the horn is a swan! :biggrin:
Anyways, I'm going to have to call it a night and go to bed!! I'll be back to defend the horns though! :wink:
Night night x
jingleram
29.07.2005, 01:43
Okay, be sure to do so. Night night, don't let the tenor horns bite!
jingleram
29.07.2005, 01:44
Perhaps, Jingleram but I could start a conversation about French horns (I've done that before on this forum..... with particular reference to the possibility of French horns' inclusion in brass bands! Boy, did that start something! :))
With what particular reference to french horns? Their replacement of tenor horns? Interesting thought!
Dave Payn
29.07.2005, 01:56
With what particular reference to french horns? Their replacement of tenor horns? Interesting thought!
Nope, not the replacement of tenor horns. As well as.
Here
http://www.themouthpiece.com/vb/showthread.php?t=3821&highlight=french+horns+play+role
jingleram
29.07.2005, 01:57
No I think the best course of action would be to replace with...!!!!!!! :p
Haha interesting thing is, I had a conversation with an M.D. last year about what he would put in 'Room 101' if he could, and his very first answer was second horn players! With no prompting from me, a prestigious Conductor (he who must not be named) would get rid of second horns!
GRRR!!! :mad: Maybe I will move onto first like Robert said I should if Im going to be gotten rid of :eek: :mad:
A brass band without tenor horns would be rubbish, a brass band without any of the instruments that are in it would be rubbish (that includes percussion by the way(I spelt it wrong didnt I?.).)
PeterBale
29.07.2005, 11:15
The flugel sounds like a duck and the horn is a swan! :biggrin:
Don't swans just sing once, just before they die :?: :shock: ;)
Vickitorious
29.07.2005, 12:09
Don't swans just sing once, just before they die :?: :shock: ;)
:eek::eek: noooo!!
jingleram
29.07.2005, 12:54
Maybe I'm to blame here, I think I did Tenor Horns in general a disservice by calling them instruments! Unfair of me really to put them in the same sphere as euphoniums, baritones, basses, cornets, perc. etc...!! ;)
meandmycornet
29.07.2005, 13:09
WOW what a marvellous idea! A band without tenor horns! I'm liking that one :D
although maybe not, mother would probably come on cornet then! Keep the horns but sit them somewhere far far away!
Vickitorious
29.07.2005, 13:10
:eek::eek::eek:
Thats it.. I'm gonna go and sit in a corner and sulk! Until I think of a witty comment to throw back at you!!
:(
;)
Tenor horns are vital to the band! They are the draft excluder between the flugel and the baris (providing your band is set out like mine). They are only allowed to play because it stops them from talking.
No, as a horn player I have to agree with vickitorious on this one - horns are definitely the best...
DaveR
horns are definitely the best...
DaveR
Proper horns are! These Eb things are just silly!
Proper horns are! These Eb things are just silly!
Eb is God's own key.....
DaveR
jingleram
29.07.2005, 14:58
Proper horns are! These Eb things are just silly!
Oh if only we could still give rep!!!
jingleram
29.07.2005, 14:59
No, as a horn player I have to agree with vickitorious on this one - horns are definitely the best...
DaveR
Oh if we could only still give negative rep! (mind you I think I would probabaly recieve quite a bit of this!!!)
Maybe I'm to blame here, I think I did Tenor Horns in general a disservice by calling them instruments! Unfair of me really to put them in the same sphere as euphoniums, baritones, basses, cornets, perc. etc...!! ;)
I think youre wrong but you should know that anything can be classed as an instrument even recorders :eek:
But if you think about it bands wouldnt be the same if you took any instrument away from it, you need all of them to make it sound like it does...
jingleram
29.07.2005, 15:40
You are of course right, anything can be classed as an instrument, even horns so I'm told. But a musical instrument, now that's different! Maybe a recorder, bagpipes, or even a saucepan, but a horn, a musical instrument, no way!
WOW what a marvellous idea! A band without tenor horns! I'm liking that one :D
Then you wouldnt have anyone to blame when you get your offbeats wrong...
although maybe not, mother would probably come on cornet then! Keep the horns but sit them somewhere far far away!
Alternatively sit the back row cornets far far away, preferably somwhere cold and dark :rolleyes: ;)
jingleram
29.07.2005, 15:49
Wow, it almost seems like you have a grudge against back-row cornets!! (Tongue-in-cheek) :p
You are of course right, anything can be classed as an instrument, even horns so I'm told. But a musical instrument, now that's different! Maybe a recorder, bagpipes, or even a saucepan, but a horn, a musical instrument, no way!
If you cant class a tenor horn as a musical instrument then I dont see how you managed to class a recorder as one. They are the most annoying thing in the world (excluding my brother) and make a horrible squeaky noise when beginners attempt to play them and an extremely annoying noise when played by somone who can play them, In my opinion which is slightly biased as I hate recoders, due to being forced to play one for years at primary school then two years after I was allowed to stop being forced to play it at secondary school :eek:
But whats wrong with horns?
Oh if we could only still give negative rep! (mind you I think I would probabaly recieve quite a bit of this!!!)
Cheeky young pup :)
DaveR
jingleram
29.07.2005, 15:54
We (royal) do our best!
Wow, it almost seems like you have a grudge against back-row cornets!! (Tongue-in-cheek) :p
Only one of them actually... And not Fi, I wouldnt want you to go to a cold dark place far far away really please dont be mad with me.
jingleram
29.07.2005, 15:56
If you cant class a tenor horn as a musical instrument then I dont see how you managed to class a recorder as one. They are the most annoying thing in the world (excluding my brother) and make a horrible squeaky noise when beginners attempt to play them and an extremely annoying noise when played by somone who can play them, In my opinion which is slightly biased as I hate recoders, due to being forced to play one for years at primary school then two years after I was allowed to stop being forced to play it at secondary school :eek:
But whats wrong with horns?
What's wrong with horns? See above. :D
What's wrong with horns? See above. :D
I do not squeak! And nor does my horn! Horns arent squeaky and definitely arent anywhere near as squeaky as sops or Bb cornets for that matter.
meandmycornet
29.07.2005, 16:16
Then you wouldnt have anyone to blame when you get your offbeats wrong...
Alternatively sit the back row cornets far far away, preferably somwhere cold and dark :rolleyes: ;)
We back row cornets never ever get our off beats wrong! You cheeky thing!
We back row cornets never ever get our off beats wrong! You cheeky thing!
:tongue: You love me really :rolleyes:
jingleram
29.07.2005, 17:06
I do not squeak! And nor does my horn! Horns arent squeaky and definitely arent anywhere near as squeaky as sops or Bb cornets for that matter.
Difference is cornets are meant to sound that high and squeaky, horns have no excuse, except that they are fake instruments.
Eeek, I got two of them squarking away now ;)
jingleram
29.07.2005, 17:36
Haha sorry! But the truth will out!
Difference is cornets are meant to sound that high and squeaky, horns have no excuse, except that they are fake instruments.
How can they be fake?
jingleram
29.07.2005, 17:55
Because they call themselves musical instruments!
Only joshin'! Tenor horns have just as much right to be in the brass band as eupho's! Got nothing 'gainst horns and their players in general, just a few players I know with unusually large egos and unusually low talent!
They cant talk, they dont call themselves anything, sombody else called them musical instruments.
jingleram
29.07.2005, 18:08
Notice above disclaimer!:rolleyes:
jingleram
29.07.2005, 18:25
It's to get me out of any trouble!!! Lol.
It's to get me out of any trouble!!! Lol.
You mean the trouble you are digging yourself into ;):tongue:
Vickitorious
29.07.2005, 19:16
We're not fake instruments!!!
They're a chunk of metal.. just as much as a euph
jingleram
29.07.2005, 19:39
My eupho is not a chunk of metal! Am even considering giving her a name!
You mean the trouble you are digging yourself into ;):tongue:
Yes this is true, after reading this thread through from the begining, I realized how i was coming across! :oops:
Vickitorious
29.07.2005, 20:20
My eupho is not a chunk of metal! Am even considering giving her a name!
Yes this is true, after reading this thread through from the begining, I realized how i was coming across! :oops:
Nasty??
mean??
Upsetting....:(
Aww poor Vicki!! Youve upset her Jingleram you meanie!
One annoying thing about playing horn is that you dont get them in orchestras and there isnt another brass instrument that does play in an orchestra with the same or even similar sized mouthpiece. (I was about to write 'com' in after the full stop...)
My eupho is not a chunk of metal! Am even considering giving her a name!
Yes this is true, after reading this thread through from the begining, I realized how i was coming across! :oops:
Don't worry about me, i'm only pulling your leg. :cool:
Brian Kelly
30.07.2005, 12:45
Be charitable, Jingleram.
After all, if bands didn't have horns, then Vickitorius, yonhee, HorniKaz, Ju33les and co would have nothing to do when they aren't posting on TMP.
Andy_Euph
30.07.2005, 13:41
A band with no horns would be a dream, never mind that, a band with no TROMBONES would be a dream, then I wouldn't be going deaf because of constant blasting in my ears! :D
jingleram
30.07.2005, 13:41
Indeed, makes you wonder why they do have somuch time to post?! Maybe they don't actually play their horns, they just sit at the computer the whole time!
I sit at the computer and practise my horn. Cause Im a genius...
jingleram
30.07.2005, 16:35
Lol funny you should say that, the exact moment i read that i had just started to practice on eupho sitting at computer! Great minds... :)
Yup, Vic does that sometimes too, but only if the computer in the music room is free. ;) You should get a quiet week this week. She's at NYBB now and won't be home again until next Sunday. :biggrin:;)
jingleram
30.07.2005, 16:47
So she tells me! Would imagine that your week will be quieter than mine though! And no lampshades broken either!
Lol funny you should say that, the exact moment i read that i had just started to practice on eupho sitting at computer! Great minds... :)
Haha freaky...
So she tells me! Would imagine that your week will be quieter than mine though! And no lampshades broken either!
It might be if we hadn't just bought Adam another drum kit. :eek:
jingleram
30.07.2005, 16:55
Haha brought that one upon yourself I'm afraid! Surely one kit is enough?!
Haha brought that one upon yourself I'm afraid! Surely one kit is enough?!
Too darn right, you would even have thought that two was enough wouldn't you. :frown:
jingleram
30.07.2005, 17:13
So he has 3?!?!?!?! Lol far too many imo. Have been told he is a rock drummer, and a very good one at that! Is he planning on merging the 3 kits to make a superkit? That would be rather loud!
Aye, he getting to be quite useful with a pair of sticks. ;) Both as a rock drummer and as the kit player in the B Band. :) He started off with an ordinary kit, which he still has, and takes out to use at band engagements. We bought him an electronic kit, (he thinks it was for him, but its soooo much quiter for us ;) ). He would LIKE to take his own kit when he goes to rock school, not very practical with his ordinary kit, its enough of a job lugging it all down stairs, unpacking, setting up, dismantling, repacking and lugging back up stairs for band gigs let alone every week for rock school too! :( So what he now has is a Traps flat kit mounted on frame which sits nicely, ready assembled (except the cymbals) in the back of the car. A to B, load cymbals and ready to rock and roll. :D
jingleram
30.07.2005, 17:30
Ah i see, nice system, expensive, but better on the ear! He's don quite well for himself then!
Aye, he is considering himself a very lucky lil lad this afternoon.
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