Who's really to blame?

Discussion in 'Off-Topic Chat' started by Columbo, Oct 10, 2010.

  1. Columbo

    Columbo Member

    I am deeply saddened by yet another aid workers demise in Afghanistan, yet it brings out the annoyance in me when yet again the emphasis is put on those who try and remedy the situation. Eg. The guy in the field with the shot gun, the barrister at the window etc etc.

    Lets put the blame solely on the perpetrators! The Taliban in the first instance, The Poor guys who feel they have nowhere to turn that they take up all the resources of the police force and then give them little option by putting them in such a difficult, no win situation!

    The poor aid worker knew the risks (Not that, that makes it right of course), however lets shift the blame on the B********s who are responsible! In regards to the Guy in the field, it also cost a company director his life, due to the irresponsibility of the people who bought the faulty tayzors, which incidentally were used after the guy had shot himself (Allegedly). He couldnt live with the guilt put upon him by the rubbish we call the press (In fairnness, I don't know the facts, however still another life lost). RIP Linda Norgrove, you did not die in vain.

    I apologize if my facts are not correct, however my point is, who started it? Not, Who finished it!

  2. Rapier

    Rapier Supporting Member

    Couldn't agree more.

    The Aid worker ( like most ) assume that because they are doing things for the right reasons, the Bad guys will leave them alone. Then, when it goes wrong, someone else will have to risk their lives to save them.

    Oh and the Tasers were not faulty, just not the type approved by the Home Office.
  3. Columbo

    Columbo Member

    I knew it was something like that. ;)
  4. Super Ph

    Super Ph Member

    what on earth are you on about?
  5. Columbo

    Columbo Member

    And here it begins...another headhunter!

    If you don't like or understand, don't respond. Its just open for a 'friendly' discussion.
  6. Scottw

    Scottw Member


    gotta disagree entiely...Taliban..perpetrators?? Stepping back from that question, gotta ask, why are over there at all?? Tis us and America who intefered in that country...we should never have been there. Does anyone truly know why we're there?
  7. Anglo Music Press

    Anglo Music Press Well-Known Member

    If you put a clean shirt in dirty water, you end up with a dirty shirt, not clean water.

    Very sad affair.
  8. brassneck

    brassneck Active Member

    Very eloquent way of putting it! There are no clear boundaries to who can be filtered out for neutrality.
  9. Columbo

    Columbo Member

    I agree, very profound and one to remember.
  10. Columbo

    Columbo Member

    You mustn't misinterpret what I am saying please. I DO agree with you also. Its the incident I am referring to. I don't think any of us would like to call it either and it should be understood that way when we go in to remedy, or try to remedy that situation.
  11. Super Ph

    Super Ph Member

    do you think one aid worker is worth more than one afghan?
  12. stevetrom

    stevetrom Well-Known Member

    or more than one special forces member sent to rescue them?
  13. Red Elvis

    Red Elvis Active Member

    Same reason we were there in 1839 ,1878 and 1919 ( and none of those ended well ). Imperialism. In this instance , to support the neo-cons efforts to guarantee access to oil in the former soviet republics.Albeit dressed up by Bliar's pseudo-religious quest.

    ( By way , I have the utmost admiration and respect for the armed forces that are there ( and elsewhere ) doing what they have been sent to do with a lack of adequate kit and logistic support. But a plague on the houses of those that sent them there)
  14. Rapier

    Rapier Supporting Member

    I see that they are now saying that the Aid worker may have been killed by a grenade thrown by her 'rescuers'! Not exactly a surgical weapon for such a mission.
  15. Super Ph

    Super Ph Member

    geopolitics really isn't your strong point, is it
  16. Red Elvis

    Red Elvis Active Member

    Found another thread to crayon over then ?

    Do one you tedious little man.
  17. DMBabe

    DMBabe Supporting Member

    :clap::clap: Well said Phil! A plague on his thread trollage! ;)
  18. Leyfy

    Leyfy Active Member

    Bit like you and the use of capital letters..... or to come to think of it, reasoned debate.
  19. mikelyons

    mikelyons Supporting Member

    I am loathe to criticise our American cousins, but if you look at the number of 'friendly fire' incidents in any conflict you care to choose, who would want to be rescued by them? Certainly not me!
  20. worzel

    worzel Member

    Does that really stand up, or is that just a conspiracy theory? Have you had a look at this guy's take on it?