"Hypothetical stuation" ""A Brass band has over 8-10 years invested more than a million pounds in players conductors and general running of the ensemble, and found themselfs having won only a handful of major titles. Would they start to think that perhaps thier is a problem with thier approach or formula? They Know they have the finest players available, they know they have a world class ensemble and soloists. They have the same MD at every contest and lose the vast majority."" It seems to me that in most sporting arenas, football springs to mind immediatly, losing of games comes down to one person in the end, the manager. If a football team is underachieving then the manager takes the heat, blame, anger of the fans and eventually gets the sack. This does not seem to be the same in oyur sport. We seem to have some bands thatfind themselfs throwing good money after bad at MD's that just cant cut teh mustard on the top level, but have some how created an environment in thier band room that makes them near on unsackable! This seems daft when there are msuical directors that have manages to win Major titles over and over again with sometimnes ensembles of far less means and ability. Remember, the only way that 2nd place counts is for a ranking system that is massively flaweds and does not carry any importance. Unlike the snooker or tennis rankings it does not qualify you for any competition or tournament so is infact redundant except to fill a page in a magazine or website. The rankings actually mean nothing. Only winnig a contest enters a band into teh history book. What do you think??