With a previous threads talking about the ethics of using deps for contests, it has got me thinking! You hear many complaints of "they brought in player X, who is a championship player". What really is a 'championship' player? If we are talking of a standard of performance then it has nothing to do with which band the player has previously been registered with. You could have a very good player who has been signed with a lower section band. Are they a ringer? If we are talking about anyone who has ever played in a championship sc band in their banding career, then half the players in many lower section bands are all ringers! If a player moved from a championship section to a 3rd section band and then to a 2nd section band, are they no longer a ringer as they have come from a lower section band? They could have just come straight from the championship to the 2nd sc band! With player movements being so common, both between bands and up and down the sections, I don't have problems with a lower section signing players from a higher section band to contest. The only problem I see if players being asked to step down for contests if a better player is avaliable, particularly if this is a short-term fix. What really is a ringer? I would say it is someone who is a better standard than the others within the band that are in a similar seat, but who is not staying with the band after the contest. For example, is someone is brought in to dep/signs for the band for the contest on solo trom and they are a similar standard to the other soloists that is fine, no matter who they have been previously registered with. If someone comes in for the day that is signiicantly better than the other players, no matter what band they are from, that is unfair in my opinion.