Let's start with what this post isn't about - it's not about moaning about Kapitol, it's not about talking about the injustice of the BBBR, or work the BFBB might have done or the mandate of BBE, the other 27 threads about those are fine. What I'd like to open a discussion on is what actual targets and practical steps a National body could do to promote and grow Brass Banding in England. What positive lessons could be learnt and copied from the SBBA and others and what tangible benefits would be felt by bands at the grass roots. There's talk in other places about brass banding dying on it's ****... is this a true perception across the UK? . . . . Personally I believe that the solution is not, and ever has been, a national body. From my perspective I don't believe it's dying. It may not be as strong as it was 30 years ago, but it's far from dead. And we all know what the most straightforward solution is, and that is to invest in youth. But, I don't think we need a national body for that. What we need is proactive and engaging youth policies from bands. What could a national body do more than try to persuade bands to get youth involved? So, I'm interested to find out - do we need a national body, and if so to do what? And more specifically - how?