Valve Oil

Discussion in 'The Rehearsal Room' started by odnab, Jun 26, 2003.

  1. odnab

    odnab New Member

    Help- i have a sticky valve on my baritone and no oil will lubricate it enough to return to its normal speed. Can anyone recomend a certain brand of valve oil???

    Help?? - Odnab
  2. dyl

    dyl Active Member

  3. michellegarbutt

    michellegarbutt Supporting Member

    I sometimes have this problem with my yamaha baritone. I've found the best solution is to take the valve out. Wash and dry the valve with warm water (don't forget the casing as well) Then I reoil with blue juice. Hope this helps
  4. Despot

    Despot Member

    Is it a new or old instrument?

    I'd agree with that, clean often, as dirt and too much valve oil will cause it to stick.

    I find Yamaha valve oil the best, any of the "thicker" oils are better on larger instruments. Some of the high speed oils are too light and break up too easily.

    If soap and water doesn't work, try toothpaste, which is a mild abrasive or a more "aggressive" solution is to polish the valve with something like brasso.
  5. asteria

    asteria Member

    I think this whole thread is just asking for it - beurrggh!!

    Can i just point out not to use one of those brasso scouring pad things, stupid i know but i have heard of it being done before, completely ruined a good instrument!

  6. yeah...get some blue juice on it
    its got some funny cleaning agent in it which supposedly gets all the crap off your valves
    i barely have to oil mine cos of that stuff
  7. picju96

    picju96 Member

    I like Holton. Lasts ages for me.
  8. Valvecap

    Valvecap Member

    Use a "Do it yourself" valve oil recipe.

    Soak the BOTTOM half of the valve in a glass of coke overnight - strips all the **** off it (like the penny in coke demonstration at the dentists)

    Take a small amount of comfort (or other) softner and put into the bottom of a spray container. Fill the rest with water and shake to mix.

    Spray on valve...

    Works for me - the softner in the water stops grease stickin to the valve and is a good oil in itself - think i have to oil the valves once in a sheffield flood.
  9. floral_dance

    floral_dance Member

    can I be dim and ask what blue juice is? :oops:
  10. Despot

    Despot Member

    Nothing dim about it! :)

    There's a brand of valve oil called "Blue Juice", hate it myself, very strong odour from it! I'm just too delicate! :lol:
  11. aimee_euph

    aimee_euph Member

    Yamaha valve oil is quite expensive but it's the best oil ive ever used.
  12. michellegarbutt

    michellegarbutt Supporting Member

    It does have a bit of smell but it's the best oil I've ever found :roll:
  13. timold

    timold New Member

    Valves & Valve Oils

    If you have problems with your valves!!![/size]

    Valve oil is not always the answer - you may just have a problem with your valves!

    Certain instruments (not nameing names) have always had not so good valves and the best answer is to have a brass repairer to have a look at them to sort them out, the valve is normaly sorted out with some "lapping-in" paste. I have found this to work every time!!.

    Try not to use washing up liquids or "Comfort" as they have salt in them and long term eat away at the valve.

    The best oils to use are:
    Blue Juice
    Za-Ja (both having a cleaning agent in them which breaks down the bacteria)

    If anyone needs more advise I would be happy to help.

    Tim Oldroyd
    Band Instrument Specialist
  14. aimee_euph

    aimee_euph Member

    Re: Valves & Valve Oils

    True, my valves didn't fit in the casing properly causing them to stick a lot, so a music man did something to the inside of the casing, and all of a sudden they work perfect, ive never had a problem since.
  15. floral_dance

    floral_dance Member

    Thanks for clearing that up. I might just try it on my Besson Sovereign, it is only 5 months old and I am forever cleaning and oiling the valves as they get quite sluggish, even washing valves and valve case they still pick up a lot of black mucky stuff. Anyone have any ideas how long it takes to get rid of this.
  16. Euph-Bari

    Euph-Bari Active Member

    my bro said(i found this too, with new intruments that the stuff they use to grind the valves with can get left there - not just on the valves (i had this with my new euph - black stuff)
    i just gave the whole instrument a wash through - haven't encounted anymore - valves alot better

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