Tuba 3rd valve tuning slide missing in action

Discussion in 'Classifieds' started by D J Tuit, Jan 31, 2019.

  1. D J Tuit

    D J Tuit New Member

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    I am principally a trombone player, but sometimes I help out smaller combinations playing an Eb tuba. Recently I acquired a resonable condition post 2WW 4 valve B&H Imperial tuba but unfortunately the third valve tuning slide is missing. Can anyone help with a replacement slide at a resonable price?
     
  2. 2nd tenor

    2nd tenor Well-Known Member

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    Mr Tuit’s problem is one that in slightly modified form is common to us all , well all of us who play and own older instruments.

    I suspect that the first and third slides on that tuba might be interchangeable, the first has (IIRC) the added benefit of a waterkey. So either slide might do if you can get one or the other. I’ve wondered for some time where I might be able to buy replacement parts for older instruments, ideally second hand parts from a breaker of instruments that are beyond economic repair. Has anyone any ideas or suggestions?
     
  3. D J Tuit

    D J Tuit New Member

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    Yes you are correct the first slide and the third slide are the same diameter tubing and spacing, so if I could find either one it would be good. The other thing that I have found out is the slide sizes are the same right back to the Boosey & Co. 4 valve Eb with the higher placed 4th valve. Even a slide from one of these would help. I do agree that a 1st slide with water key would be perfect. Whilst the 3rd slide is not proned to collecting much water, being a long slide it is not a quick pull and replace, especially if in the middle of a score. Now to hope that someone is able to help and get the tuba playable.
     
  4. 2nd tenor

    2nd tenor Well-Known Member

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    I’m wondering about the slides from a BBb fitting, if the valve set was common then they might. I’m wondering about Mr Tuba in South Wales, he might have something though I suspect that he’s focused on younger and expensive instruments. I wonder about reaching out to any brass repairers you know of in Australia and New Zealand, as spare parts can be hard to come by it would seem sensible for them to keep back some scrap instruments for material / parts. I wonder about YouTube’s Trent Hamilton who’s based in New Zealand. I wonder about the USA based Tuba forum, Tube Net. That forum typically deals with USA made instruments but some of the posters there are repair technicians so perhaps they might have comments helpful to you. I’m wondering about eBay sellers who specialise in second hand instruments, I know that one of them has their instruments looked over by a repair technician and perhaps he might be able to suggest to you some technicians who are used to working on older British instruments - they might have spares.

    This forum has a few Tuba playing members but they don’t post as often as they used to and might not have seen your post, the forum has two moderators both of which either do or have played Tuba - I won’t normally suggest this but a personal message the Peter Bale (moderator) might help in some way, he’s a BBb playing Salvationist and very helpful.
     
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  5. Barifan

    Barifan New Member

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    Although you are in Australia, have you thought of contacting someone such as McQueen's in Manchester who seem to be able to do anything with older instruments and might be able to manufacture a part for you, given enough detail about your instrument.
     
  6. D J Tuit

    D J Tuit New Member

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    I have looked into this locally as there is a person here in Adelaide that does provide this service. The cost for manufacturing was very high and it would be provided in raw brass only. I will use this source as a last resort, but it does make an instrument that is only occasionally used and expense that is a little harder to justify.
     
  7. Cornet

    Cornet New Member

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    I have an old 3 valve Boosey & Hawkes "Imperial Model" Eb which is missing the 3rd valve. If you find someone with some parts please let me know! I'm in Sydney NSW.
     
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  8. D J Tuit

    D J Tuit New Member

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    No worries mate. The three valve has a different spacing to the 4 valve 3rd slide, but if I find one I'll let you know.
     
  9. Cornet

    Cornet New Member

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    I'm actually missing the 3rd valve itself! I have all the slides...
     
  10. D J Tuit

    D J Tuit New Member

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    That makes kt a bit more complicated. Not much sound coming out the bell on that one. Do you have any idea of manufacturing date for it and it is definitely an imperial?
     
  11. Cornet

    Cornet New Member

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    It was made in 1940. Boosey & Hawkes Imperial Model
     
  12. Cornet

    Cornet New Member

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  13. D J Tuit

    D J Tuit New Member

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    Imperial is that all the three valve ones I've come across here have been the lesser model and the layout is different to the Imperial. The problem is that none of the important parts, valves and slides, are interchangable between the models.
     
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