Tractors! Grr!!

Discussion in 'Off-Topic Chat' started by Leyfy, Dec 20, 2007.

  1. Leyfy

    Leyfy Active Member

    I know this is a bit of a 'bah humbug!' moment on my part, but I really have to have a bit of a moan about tractors!

    I live in a bit of a rural area of Essex, one of many villages that is connected by a very long national speed limit (and very busy) road which is the only way in or out. For the past two days at 8am (right in the middle of the busiest time) there has been a tractor sitting at 20 (!!) all the way down this road, resulting in a huuuuuuuge great tailback.

    Why, why, why can't there be a MINIMUM speed limit on these sort of roads during rush hour?!
  2. Chunky

    Chunky Active Member

    Same here in Norfolk Kimmi! It really annoys me, especially when they can see a huge stream of traffic behind them and they drive past suitable places for them to pull in.

    Cyclists on here, can you tell me that when my council tax has beeun used to provide cycle paths you still ride on the road?

    btw Kimmi happy christmas to you and yours and see you at Butlins!
  3. steve butler

    steve butler Active Member

    Usually to overtake that long stream of cars held up by a tractor ;)
  4. Leyfy

    Leyfy Active Member

    Merry Christmas right back at you - looking forward to seeing some friendly faces up at Butlins.............. if we all manage to get there in time past all the tractors ;)
  5. Masterblaster jnr

    Masterblaster jnr Active Member

    Yorkshire same for tractors, when i played with elland, it took us 35 mins at 7.00 at night.

    once going to the bandroom, it took almost an hour
  6. brassed_off

    brassed_off Member

    You live in the country. There will be tractors. :mad: Unfortunately, much as I sympathise (having grown up in the country), that is life. Sorry!
  7. steve butler

    steve butler Active Member

    Here here. Anyway they go faster than those bassplayer towing caravan saddo's :p
  8. MRSH

    MRSH Supporting Member

    It sounds like tractors on country roads are like middle lane morons on motorways - you don't think they exist until you come across them :eek::mad:
  9. Bungle

    Bungle Member

    I remember hearing about a law that tractors have to pull over every 1/2 mile to allow vehicles to pass and that someone had been prosectuted for not doing this.
  10. Bass Trumpet

    Bass Trumpet Active Member

    I've lived in rural Cambridgeshire for most of my life and I can honestly say I HAVE NEVER SEEN THIS HAPPEN! In the village I grew up in, the farmers usually stop in the middle of the street and have a chat with each other, not noticing the traffic behind.

    That along with the blatant disregard for other road users, employing illegal immigrants for 50p an hour, using red diesel in their cars, not having matching number plates for their trailers/machinery, allowing 16-year-olds to drive their JCB Fastrack, the list goes on. On top of that, I've lost count of the farmers who accidentally set fire to their barns with all their machinery inside.

    Sorry if the above sounds rather anti-agricultural community, but I'm totally fed up with the lot of them. And from what I can see, they are happy to claim poverty whilst putting an order in for a new combine harvester costing quarter of a million. But that's ok, the EU subsidy will pay for that!


    Ok, mods. Sorry for that. You can rap me on the knuckles now....
  11. Mr Guinness

    Mr Guinness Member

    With a road speed of around 50mph, you won't get stuck behind a Fastrack - driven by a 16 year old or otherwise. :tup
  12. julestools

    julestools Active Member

    Tis a cunning little plan by us farming types to slow down the pace of rural life. Ha ha. Just chill and enjoy the pace :)

    Anyway the maximum speed for a 2 wheel drive tractor is 14 MPH. A 4 wheel drive can do 40KPH and a Fastrac can go like stink and usually does when i'm driving

    Jules (still laughing)
  13. Chunky

    Chunky Active Member

    Tractors on country roads are fine. But like Kimmi, when I used to live in a village outside of Norwich it really annoyed me that on a road that I could legally drive at the national speed limit I was reduced to a crawl by a tractor.

    To me it can be just as dangerous as a speeding motorist. People get stuck behind them and take risks just to get past the tractor.
  14. Daniel Sheard

    Daniel Sheard Member

    In which case it is the overtaking risk taker who is at fault. No excuses for dangerous driving.

    But yes they should pull over to let people past. Some do. Some seem to take pride in not doing.
  15. Chunky

    Chunky Active Member

    Totally agree with that Daniel, however I am certain that most people have taken risks, whether on the road or not, due to frustration!
  16. Daniel Sheard

    Daniel Sheard Member

    You're probably right.
  17. MoominDave

    MoominDave Well-Known Member

    Very often, councils don't bother thinking properly about whether a cycle path is a better solution than the existing road for the people who it is intended for. There's a stretch of cycle path on my way back from work that is a total pain to cycle along - there are several side roads off roundabouts across it, which are pretty much devoid of traffic. A cyclist on the road (which is wide) can maintain a comfortable uninterrupted 20 mph, but a cyclist on the cycle path has to keep bending around the peripheries of roundabouts and slowing to almost a halt to cross the side roads. The lowered kerbs are also not quite low enough, risking wheel damage.

    Ironically, the section of my journey before this is on the main Reading-Oxford road (A4074), where a safer area for cyclists would be really useful, but doesn't exist. This road used to have dedicated cycle lanes, but these have been drastically reduced to a 12-inch-wide strip in the gutter, with sunken drains and overhanging branches offering an obstacle course, especially in the dark with no street lighting. The extra space freed up by squashing the cyclists into the side of the road is used to provide a continuous hatched area in the middle of the road - so the car drivers (a bigger lobby who generally take less care while travelling than the serious cyclists who use this road) are safer while the cyclists are in greater danger.

    Cyclists pay council tax too... We should lobby our councils to actually ask cyclists whether a given cycle path would be useful before building it. Some drivers (not necessarily you, Chunky) should also bear more in mind that, whether or not a cycle path exists, a cyclist has exactly the same entitlement to be on the road as a car driver (M-ways etc. excepted). I have seen drivers hurl abuse at cyclists for daring to ride on the roadway rather than the cycle path - when the weather was icy, and the (well maintained) roadway had been gritted, but the (poorly surfaced) cycle path hadn't...
  18. Chunky

    Chunky Active Member

    I take your points on board Dave, but what annoys me is that Norfolk County Council have spent a lot of money on providing wide, smooth surfaced cycle lanes, in some cases reducing the width of the road they run parallel to, and still some, not all cyclists think the road is the better option.

    I have to say though that the cyclists that prefer the road tend to be the 'look at me next year I will be in the Tour De France' type who consider the cycle paths beneath them!
  19. MoominDave

    MoominDave Well-Known Member

    The best way to deal with that type of cyclist is to be another cyclist who nonchalantly undertakes them on the cycle path while riding a much cheaper and dirtier bike and wearing no specialist cycle gear at all. You can almost smell the outrage.
  20. MoominDave

    MoominDave Well-Known Member

    The proper serious cyclists will be riding expensive bikes, and maintaining speeds that require a big investment of energy to reach. The last two things they want to do are i) keep slowing down for side roads and ii) risk bending their expensive wheel rims going up and down not-quite-low-enough kerbs. I suspect even your shiny Norfolk cycle paths suffer from these deficits.

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