Top 10 test piece contests in order of ranking.

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  1. Adamskied

    Adamskied Member

    Don't know if this has been done before but
    after band last nightbwe were trying to put
    together a list of the top 10 contests in ranking
    order.

    Would love to see what other people had as we haf
    a disagreement as to a couple of them.

    1st list can be on UK contests (not area contests) that any band can play in or can be invited to play.

    2nd list is any UK contest.

    3rd list any contest.

    Lets see what we can come up with.

    Thanks
     
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  3. Accidental

    Accidental Supporting Member

    What's your criteria.... Best crowd pleaser, best to play, best test, most frequently played.....?
     
  4. Adamskied

    Adamskied Member

    Rank the contests in order of prestige and what you
    think is the best contest.
     
  5. Accidental

    Accidental Supporting Member

    What are your lists then?!
     
  6. Adamskied

    Adamskied Member

    I ask the questions....
     
  7. Ianroberts

    Ianroberts Well-Known Member

    I write the songs that make the young girls cry .............
     
  8. markh

    markh Member

    OK, I'll have a go:

    1 World Cup
    2 Champions League
    3 Summer Olympics
    4 Masters Golf
    5 Sydney Gold Cup
    6 Ashes
    7 Open
    8 Scaba autumn contest
    9 Scaba spring contest
    10 Medway band drinking contest
     
  9. Ianroberts

    Ianroberts Well-Known Member

    I write the songs, I write the songs........
     
  10. Chris Hicks

    Chris Hicks Member

    In terms of ranking in difficulty to win and for Competitons in Europe plus one entertainments ;)

    1 British open
    2 national finals
    3 europeans
    4 grand shield
    5 Norwegian nationals
    6 bic
    7 Yorkshire areas
    8 welsh areas
    9 north west areas
    10 butlins
     
  11. stevetrom

    stevetrom Well-Known Member

    1. The last one I played in
    2. The one before that
    3. etc...
    ......
     
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  13. Gadgie

    Gadgie New Member

    Based on quality of music, standard of bands, hall for acoustics and atmosphere, tightness of competition and with some obvious trade offs, my list on the all test piece contests list is:


    1. Europeans
    2. British Open
    3. Yorkshire Area
    4. National Finals
    5. Scottish Open (when it's own choice; number 8 when it's not)
    6. Butlins
    7. Norwegian Championships
    8. North West Area
    9. Grand Shield
    10. Welsh Area
     
  14. Statto

    Statto Member

    Based on 'strength of field' (for brassstats.com ranking purposes), the top 10 contests in 2013 were:

    1. British Open
    2. National Championship
    3. Brass in Concert
    4. European Championship
    5. Grand Shield
    6. Yorkshire Area
    7. All England International Masters
    8. Butlins
    9. English National
    10. North West Area
     
  15. MoominDave

    MoominDave Well-Known Member

    Is that based on sum total of rankings points at each event? Or average ranking points per band?

    I'd be interested to see how far down the list you have to go before each area contest is covered.
     
  16. Statto

    Statto Member

    It's based on the number of top 100 bands in the field, and also the ranking of those bands.

    Every contest with at least one top 100 ranked band is deemed a ranking contest and ranking points are awarded. Contests are categorised from 1 to 20, with the British Open and National always category 20, irrespective of whether the field merits this. In practice, the Open has always been category 20 based on strength of field anyway but the National has occasionally been 19 (but 20 by default, to allow for the prestige of the title).

    The European is always a minimum of 18. Brass in Concert last year was also 18.

    The Shield, Yorkshire Area and Masters were 15. Butlins, English Nat and NW Area (and also Welsh Area) were 13.

    Other areas - West of Eng and Scotland (cat 8 ), Midlands (cat 7), North and London (cat 6)

    Roughly speaking, if at least one top 10 band is playing in the contest then that contest would be at least cat 6. Similarly, if at least one top 20 band is playing, then it would be cat 5.
     
    Last edited: Apr 30, 2014
  17. MoominDave

    MoominDave Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the explanation. I wonder, by this scheme, which is the highest rated 1st section area contest in the land? And what category would the 1st section nationals have?
     
  18. Gadgie

    Gadgie New Member

    Does that take account of bands playing twice at the European? The beauty of the contest is hearing top bands play twice, once in set piece format and once in own choice. The English National had the same potential but the atmosphere at the 2 contests is poles apart.
     
  19. Euphman2

    Euphman2 Member

    I venture to suggest that this subject is totally subjective. If you have played all your banding at lower levels, your choices will be totally at odds with anyone who has ventured higher up the ladder, so the chances of establishing any sort of "league table" will be (the number of people expressing a 1 -10 opinion) x the (number of entries) [mathematicians please feel free to correct me and add in variables].
    What was the point of this query?????:-?
     
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  20. Adamskied

    Adamskied Member

    Why not?
     
  21. Euphman2

    Euphman2 Member

    Surely the question should be "WHY".
     
  22. Adamskied

    Adamskied Member

    There is plenty of **** on here why not one more?

    And, I just wanted to know what people thought...thats all

    Is that ok with you?
     

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