Just been listening to some of the whining and whinging coming from some of the Welsh footballers. Just where do the likes of Robbie Savage and Craig Bellamy get off? Who are they to say, " Make so and so manager or we, and a lot of others will retire from playing for Wales". Get rid of them now!!! :ranting2: :ranting2: :ranting2: :ranting2: :ranting2: Players should be proud to play for their country. As for Mr I've Got No Brains Beckham. " I used my brains to get booked so that I could get the yellow card out of the way". Hasn't he got the talent not to get booked in the first place? Maybe he should take a look at a past England captain, who never got booked in his entire career, despite playing in Spain and getting limps kicked out of him!! Rant over. God I feel better now.