'The Nightingale' and Harold Moss etc.

Discussion in 'The Rehearsal Room' started by Bob Stevenson, Mar 15, 2005.

  1. Bob Stevenson

    Bob Stevenson Member

    Just trying to complete some programme notes,.....

    Does anyone know anything about Harold Moss and 'The Nightingale' cornet solo?

    I do know that Harold Moss was the teacher of Lucy Cole the famed lady cornet star of the war years,...Did he write 'The Nightingale' for her?....codes on the music seem to indicate that it may have been originally printed in 1942.

    Any sources of info would be gratefully recieved!....Thanks in advance!
  2. tubafran

    tubafran Active Member

    Re Harold Moss - the BFBB have details of archive information about him

    Reference to him conducting Wingates Temperance Band in 1931

    Richard Evans received lessons from him and he was known as "The King of Trombones"

    He was the first conductor of Leyland Motors in 1946.

    Conducted Creswell Colliery Band to win the British Open Contest in 1947,
    www.worksopminerswelfareband.org.uk/ history/bands-in-the-mining-industry
    (conflict note - IBEW have the 1947 Open winner as Fairey Aviation and Cresswell in 4th. Cresswell are down as winning in 1925 though)

    Hope that helps.
  3. imthemaddude

    imthemaddude Active Member

    Won the Brass solo open with the piece - it's exxcellent but know nothing about it - sorry!
  4. AnneMossMcAllister

    AnneMossMcAllister New Member

    Just found this question. Though the post was years ago, thought you might like to know: Harold Moss was my grandfather and he wrote 'The Nightingale' for my aunt, his eldest child, Mary whom he always called Jenny.
  5. brassneck

    brassneck Active Member

    It's nice to know that ... a classic solo!
  6. johnm

    johnm New Member

    When I was researching for my compere's book I spoke to Harold Moss' daughter who he wrote the solo for, he wanted to call it Jenny but his publishers thought it would conflict with another solo around at that time - Jenny Wren. He completed the solo during the night of his daughters birth, hence The Nightingale. Hope this helps and saves you having to buy my book!!
    Incidentaly, Moss' nephew is Harry Mather the great euphonium star of yesteryear and Harry gave me a pipe that once belonged to Harold Moss!
  7. ian perks

    ian perks Active Member

    Thats a name of the past my grandfather used to talk of him and said he was one of the tip -top players of the Euph in my grandfathers playing days.
  8. johnm

    johnm New Member

    Harry is still living in Wigan and still has the most fantastic wit you could hear. I have great memories of sitting behind Harry on the RAH in 1966 and hearing him play like an angel in Carnaval Romain with Jim Scott conducting.
  9. Al

    Al Member

    I have an old 78rpm record with Wingates playing (I think) The Joker by Harold Moss. I will have to hunt it out and get it onto youtube.
  10. wagger-g

    wagger-g Member

    I was always led to believe that the solo was written for Jenny in the sense of a dedication but that he played it himself - on the trombone!
  11. johnm

    johnm New Member

    Yes, exactly right!
  12. Richard_Brigg

    Richard_Brigg Member

    was there any point commenting?
  13. MoominDave

    MoominDave Well-Known Member

    One might ask you the same question... Or me...
  14. Stickyvalves

    Stickyvalves New Member

    yes that is what i thought!

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