Tenor Horn cup mute

Discussion in 'The Rehearsal Room' started by Accidental, Mar 12, 2006.

  1. Accidental

    Accidental Supporting Member

    Hi everybody,

    Looking for opinions on the best cup mutes for our horn section. So far we've tried tenor trombone mutes - the white stone lined cups don't fit properly and sound poo; and the adjustable cup Peter Gane sounds great, but costs a fortune.

    Does anyone actually make cup mutes specifically for horns?
    What are other bands using for Journey?
    Any other ideas please?
     
    Last edited: Mar 12, 2006
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  3. Redhorn

    Redhorn New Member

    For tenor horns your going to need bass trom mutes, Unison Music sell the Peter Gane ones- i believe that they sell separately just the 'cup' bit, so it can be added on to existing PG straight mutes- works out a bit cheaper (provided you have straight mutes already!
     
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  5. Charmed

    Charmed Active Member

    I believe we used trom mutes, but had to file down the corks for a better/closer fit. Warning, don't file down too much or the natural wear and tear will make them go in closer! As I discovered on the contest stage resulting in a bit of vibration, and me trying to do a houdini to pull it out a bit during playing! :oops:
     
  6. Jon Parkinson

    Jon Parkinson New Member

    John Packer are the UK agents for the new Dem-bro mutes. These are specific fibre adjustable cup mutes for tenor horns/Euphs/baritones and basses and they are also better in tune and cheaper than some of the alternatives. These have been very well received by those players that have have tried them. Well worth a go.
     
  7. Accidental

    Accidental Supporting Member

    Thanks for the ideas chaps. Unfortunately (but not surprisingly!) not many people stock sets of 3 anyway, so we're going with Don Maslets from Phil Parker.
    I don't think I'll ever get a Peter Gane again after the lovely people at Unison bitched about any band that doesn't order their mutes 6 months in advance!!! You'd think with their product and prices they could afford to be a bit nicer to their customers :mad:
     
  8. brassneck

    brassneck Active Member

    - DEM-BRO is a make that is becoming increasingly popular these days for cup mute design. Check their site for details ...

    http://www.dembro.nl/products.php?type=cup&cat=5&lang=en
     
  9. basebonetone

    basebonetone Member

    There is a new manufacturer based in oldham called mike maclean. Heis currently supplying bands such as YBS, DYKE, FODENS, and many more with hand made custom mutes at very resonable prices, check him out. I personally have had three bass trom mutes made to order and have never played on better for tuning and sound - including peter gane, tom crown, jo rall etc!
     
  10. basebonetone

    basebonetone Member

    Meant to say that he does a specialist horn cup mute too!
     
  11. Accidental

    Accidental Supporting Member

    thanks again guys. We actually picked up the Maslets this afternoon and they're great.
     
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  13. HBB

    HBB Active Member

    We've got the Mike MAclean mutes for horns, and for something that's so small (like the bell of the mute is tiny) it makes a lovely sound and very easy to whip out in 1.5 bars rest!!! :)

    Anyway... off to band to play with them! :)
     
  14. Redhorn

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    Unison must have thought theyd won the lottery when the test pieces were announced, even the 1st section piece requires muted flug, horns, and baris- so we had to buy 5 new mutes (in the region of £200).
     
  15. trumpetmike

    trumpetmike Active Member

    So - how many bands have found themselves purchasing new sets of mutes purely for the Areas?
    How many of these mutes will now sit in a cupboard for the next few years?
    Maybe the people who chose the test pieces have been sponsored by the mute makers??
     
  16. Charmed

    Charmed Active Member

    Hopefully we will make use of our new mutes, but realistically, they will probably sit in the cupboard until the next contest! Apart from the cornet section's new mutes, I can't see that the rest of the band will get much use out of them! And the cost to the band was enormous! A couple of extra concerts should cover tho! :eek:
     
  17. Accidental

    Accidental Supporting Member

    Indeed!
    We actually tried to borrow as we already had a set of straight mutes, but obviously didn't manage. Hey ho!
    It could have been worse - I can't figure out why so many bands, including mine, have made a fuss about "soft mute" meaning cups for the horns, but not for euphs and baris.....
     
  18. trumpetmike

    trumpetmike Active Member

    When I first saw "soft" mute I wondered what people would use - seems that cup mutes are what it means for cornet players. Anyone using anything different?
    A whole section of sotto voce mutes would be a spine-tingling sound - probably a little late now:rolleyes:
     
  19. Steve

    Steve Active Member

    The best mute for a tenor horn is about 500miles between you and it!
     
  20. HBB

    HBB Active Member

    We've done that too!!
     
  21. flabbergast

    flabbergast New Member

    Bass trom mute has a really nice round sound when in the horn, not much can beat it.
     

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