Small Shank MPC's for Jazz

Discussion in 'The Rehearsal Room' started by gcbtrom, Jan 26, 2010.

  1. gcbtrom

    gcbtrom Member

    Just got my JP231Rath through and I totally love it.

    Now, having spent the past 9 years playing a .547 bore and a large shank mouthpiece I have been suddenly comfronted with a 12c and a small shank... (the .525 bore isn't a problem). I normally play with a 51L and because of this "change" as it were, I'm struggling to get used to the 12c that came with the Rath231...

    I have played it for about 2 hours already but I feel I need a slightly deeper cup and maybe a slight bit more mass to the mouthpiece. I'm not too "with it" in terms of small shank mouthpieces and what they relate to so any help would be appreciated. I have got a 6.5 AL which I might try and get another one in a S-shank as I quite like that one for when I first started.
  2. Vegasbound

    Vegasbound Active Member

    61/2 ...will work fine with the .525 horn
  3. MoominDave

    MoominDave Well-Known Member

    Mouthpiece choice [and most particularly cup depth] is perhaps more critical on this size of trombone than any other [or so it seems to me, anyway...], because of the size's flexibility of sound - put in a small-shank Bach 5G, and make a decent symphonic sound; put in a 7C and sound like a jazz specialist...

    As Vegasbound says though, a Bach 6-1/2AL small shank will match it quite well. Personally, in my Besson 10-10 (a 1950s medium-bore model, built like a tank), I switch between VB 5G, VB 5GS, and DW 6BS, dependent on application.
  4. Vegasbound

    Vegasbound Active Member

    Got to agree with everything Dave has said......the .525 is a very versatile instrument. Just to ad that Carol Jarvis always uses a 61/2 for lighter playing and did so on the JP Rath when she used it on tour with Seal!
  5. gcbtrom

    gcbtrom Member

    Thanks all, I forgot we have a band baritone which has 2 mouthpieces with it. I had a quick test of each and I can't remember which I liked but there was a 6BS and a 9BS and I preferred the one with the deeper cup (9BS I think...)

    Will see how it goes tonight and maybe will get a 6-1/2 during the week.

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