Parking the purpose of SA music from an SA perspective, in its own right as pure music, I enjoy playing SA Band music for the music itself. However it doesnt seem to be in the slightest bit popular outside the SA itself. The secular bands I have played with typically have a couple of pieces of SA stuff in their Rep; but its usually the same suspects (Lightwalk, Goldcrest for example). I am lucky enough to be at a corps where we have a band still able to play most things, but this is not the case at many corps. I personally, if at a corps without a band, would look to become a member of a secular band; but I know that I would miss playing SA music; even though much of what I get to see in secular practices is great to play. This leads me to wonder why it is not considered by secular bands, in its own right, as music. One of the comments that I hear in secular circles is that the availbility of marches is limited, hence the repeated playing of the same old marches again and again at say Whit Friday, but the recent Black Dyke CD's surely reveal that there is a wealth of marches available within the SA publications. I was wondering why this should be - what is the perception of MD's about the musicality and quality of SA stuff in its own right? and why isnt soem of it included in repertoires? On the opposite side SA bands dont tend to play much secular music which is a crying shame, but I know that this isnt about the quality of that music, but more about Rules and Regs within the SA movement which preclude SA bands form playing anything not approved by the SA musical ministries department. I have occasionally wondered if one was to form a new band with the experss intent of mixing up the 2 forms, purely as music, how easy would it be to find members, and would the music be penalised if played as Own Choice within the contesting world? I would definitely like to hear the opinions of others on this; particularly why it just isnt considered to be good enough.