Round Stamp B&H Sovereigns

Discussion in 'The Rehearsal Room' started by thepublican, Jun 10, 2014.

  1. thepublican

    thepublican New Member

    Hi all,

    I apologise if this seems a daft question from a recent convert from a French Horn player.
    I have seen a lot said and written about 'Round Stamp' instruments. I have got the opportunity to buy one, or save up a bit longer for a brand new instrument. What are the pros and cons of Round Stamp Sovereign Tenor Horns? Or should I just go for it?


  2. wittig

    wittig Member

    Hi publican,

    Just go for it!

    I play on a second-hand sovereign (not a round stamp, but not one of the seemingly poorer quality "lottery grant" instruments either) and I'm happy with it. I'm assuming it's going to set you back around £750-800, a brand new high quality one will be £2000+

    Pros from the round stamp should be -

    price versus a good new tenor horn
    fairly consistent intonation across the range of the instrument
    free-blowing across the range
    the nice sound that (hopefully) comes out of the bell


    it doesn't have a main tuning slide trigger like the top of the range new models

    I'm far from an expert, but until some of the heavyweights come in and give their tuppence-worth my opinion is definitely go for the round stamp. I can totally see the appeal of buying my very own brand new instrument but I don't think it represents value for money based on the quality of sceond-hand instruments there are available and unless you are playing at the very highest echelons of brass banding, the extra capability that the newest instruments provide isn't something that will be noticed.
  3. cockaigne

    cockaigne Member

    Kirklees, West Yorkshire
    As with any instrument maker, there is no guarantee that an old instrument will definitely be a good one. There's a certain amount of blinkeredness over this - there are some very rough Elkhart Conns out there, for instance! But they were very good, and have aged well - one of the best euphoniums I've ever played wasn't a Sovereign, but an Imperial of early 1970s vintage.

    The pros listed are things that you should certainly look for in any instrument of any age - but don't take them for granted; make sure the instrument works for you before parting with any money. They tend to be a good buy, especially if they've been well looked-after - but you shouldn't expect to pay more than the modern equivalent, either.
  4. halsasaurus

    halsasaurus Member

    I was only discussing this topic on Friday. If you have an opportunity to acquire a Round Stamp then I believe that you should snap it up. Take the instrument to a specialist like McQueens to get it refurbished if it needs it and you should have a great Instrument with a quality Build that should last you a lifetime with proper care
  5. thepublican

    thepublican New Member

    My horn arrived today. Tried two over the weekend. Chose c.1974 one, replated with a 3rd valve water key retrofitted and lyre box moved to 3rd slide. It's fantastic!
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