On this forum, for example was the following . . . . . [/quote] . . . . I heard the same in the bar, everyone seemed to be of the opinion that <enter a band name here> should have won, etc. etc.[/code] I usually reckon its best not to take too much serious notice of what's said in the bar, passionate as it may be. The speaker has usually drunk far more pints than they have listened to bands in the section anyway. I've come to the conclusion to only take notice of that person who hasn't been p***ing it up in the bar, HAS listened to ALL the bands, has a proven musical track record and has probably been sitting in an enclosed tent type thing for the past few hours. . . . .