Discussion in 'The Adjudicators' Comments' started by tkhbss, Oct 11, 2010.
I Wonder what your view is of all the part swapping that goes on
Scottish Open 2010. Howard Snell, Hans Buchegger conductor of Brass Band Oberosterreich and Simon Dobson composer of the testpiece. All in the open and apart. SBBA lead the way again. :clap:
Well said. We clearly p**sed this contest by a mile, and it is sadly only a matter of time before this turns into a bitter and retarded "we wuz robbed" thread as always on here after a contest.
I sat in the front row so the acoustics are clearly different from those of the adjudicators. From where I sat the consensus was Brighouse, Cory and Fairey were all excellent but then so were Dyke. Dyke not being in the framewas the upset not Brighouse winning I would say.
As far as moving parts around most but not all did it. I think I noticed a well known former top seat Dyke player sitting fourth man down for Brighouse. This 4th man did the repiano cadenza wonderfully. And why not? The proof of the pudding is in the eating.....
Anyway you put it this was a wondeful test piece with some wonderful playing and one upset.
A great day out.
I watched the faces of players from every band, even the experienced ones, as they came on stage and took in the wonderful arena that is the RAH. Long may it stay that way. Despite any arguments to the contrary about costs and acoustics, London is one of the greatest cities in the World and the RAH an icon within. Great to be able to tell your grand children you played there. And by the way you can get a pint for £2 only 3 minutes walk from the stage door.
Not my point, of course. My statement clearly congratulated the top three bands, just asked what happened to Dyke when 4Barsrest (and now others since) said they were very good. I don't think anybody has said B&R should not have won, just why were Dyke 8th?
Bit controversial I know but Dyke have no divine right to be in the frame. An amazing band? Yes, amazing players? Yes, A baritone cadenza played on solo Horn? Yes! (last year the mutes?) Maybe, just maybe the failure to adhere to the composers scoring finally caught up with them? It is also surprising no one has mentioned the placed bands seem to have taken the piece less agressively than others and I believe those bands were rewarded because that's what the adjudicators wanted this year.
My own band played particularly well and sought to capture Australia's less romantic side, continent with the most poisonous/dangerous animals on the planet, most areas of hostile wasteland, bit of a place where you walk in the wrong direction and no one sees you again sort of thing. We were in your face but it wasn't nerves or lacking class we actually wanted to portray an aggressive continent. It didn't pay off and we accept it end of story. The composers notes weren't exactly romantic or gentle in nature either. We don't think we got it wrong but fully accept the result and the adjudicators right to their own tastes. They mentioned not to their own tastes no fewer than five times in our adjudication? Bit of a conundrum there? Adjudicators tastes or composers writing?
My own view is simple, you don't like the competition rules and sytem of adjudication
don't enter! It's been a great year for banding with two unexpected names on two major's - long may it continue.:clap:
I think, the hearable parts-swapping combined with a bit of a "boring" interpretation (boring is certainly the wrong word, but Mr. King was the one the brought emotions into the piece) maybe did the trick that day.
Maybe I have interpreted your statement incorrectly, and if I have, I apologise... but if I haven't I find your attitude sad, arrogant, conceited and blase. To me it sounds as though you are a player from the winning band? How you think you pee'd this contest by a mile beggars belief and, if I were also a fellow member of the band, I would be embarrassed by this statement!
By the way - I was involved in the draw and heard what the adjudicators said they wanted from the piece - they had no preconceived ideas and only wanted to hear what bands could do with the music. No-one is claiming 'they wuz robbed' only their surprise about certain bands not being in the frame.
Incidentally I thought Dyke were too loud...
Wouldn't sweat about the other places too much if I were you sweetheart. There is only one (Purple & Gold) winner, and 19 losers - put them in whatever order you like as far as I'm concerned.
Enjoy while you can, I guess I would be pretty pleased with myself had my team lifted the big prize. Not knocking your moment as I have a number of friends who lifted it with you - They just have something about them I find endearing and which you appear (through your posts) to lack. Humility!
If you say so.....
If it's humility you are after at this point please contact a member of Black Dyke, Fodens, Cory or any of the other bands that took part. They have loads of it at the moment and I think you will find it most endearing.:tup
You're doing your best to bring a great band into disrepute. Shame on you.
Just wondering if these are your personal thoughts, or you are as your username suggests, the messenger. If it is the latter wonder what the alleged originator of these outbursts would think.
Any way, back on topic, congrats to your band for winning, and let's hope you can back up all your comments and return victorious next year, and for many years to come. If this is not the case, will we see you in the corresponding thread next year, and beyond, bringing into question the adjudicator, the acoustics, the hotel, the coach driver and the tea lady?
Or maybe someone should message the mods, as with no playing experience, name in the signature or proof that he actually plays with Brighouse it seems obvious that it's some little sad act trying to stir things to get the band a bad name.
Funny how the join date was very recent too. Sour grapes from another top band maybe?
Personally i wasnt at the contest so can't say whether they ****ed it, but, even if they did, there's no people in that band who would be immature enough to post c**p like that.
A fifth columnist - thought as much. If you weren't there, who was that on 1st Horn Jonny?
We're already keeping an eye on this thread and the possible trolls that are posting in it.
If your going to have a second account you need to keep it to yourself Jonny you twonk! hahahahahah...
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