Rehearsal room acoustics

Discussion in 'The Rehearsal Room' started by hellraiser, Mar 27, 2005.

  1. hellraiser

    hellraiser Member

    I've played in many bandrooms. At my current bandroom I'm of the opinion it's too boomy and I tend to think it's best to have a bandroom where the acoustics don't flatter you so that people have to work harder to create and project a good sound.

    Are there any specialists out there that can visit bandrooms and say what needs to be done to damp the sound? I'm sure there are many different techniques these days.
     
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  3. Fergus

    Fergus Member

    A couple of years ago we decided to dampen the acoustics in our band room and now its covered from head to toe in egg boxes.
    It certainly make us work hard and we also reap its benefits when we play in other halls.
    As to day is Easter Sunday perhaps you and the rest of your band should start saving your egg boxes and you could do he same????
     
  4. hellraiser

    hellraiser Member

    Fergus, that sounds very interesting and cost-effective.

    I'm not sure it would be possible to cover all of it in egg boxes as it's a fairly large room (it's an old small chapel). But I've seen egg boxes just on the roof in other bandrooms.

    So is it just a case of sticking them on the roof? :)

    And would just on the roof make a significant difference I wonder.
     
  5. Fergus

    Fergus Member

    Our very resourceful baritone player acquired us a mountain of egg box trays and we just attached them to the walls etc using an industrial sized staple gun.
    I should have also mentioned that we asked the band to donate old curtains which we have also strategically hung from the ceiling to help with the accoustics and finally a couple of local social clubs were replacing their carpets and they kindly donated them to us. Most of the band room floor has 3 layers of carpet.
    It's great for our band and as you say very cost effective ( we don't have much excess cash), however, if Lawrence Llewelyn-Bowen caught sight of our interior design he might have something to say about it !!!
    Good luck with your venture....
     
  6. sparkling_quavers

    sparkling_quavers Active Member

    I've seen egg boxes used as well! The only problem I can see is fire regulations. I suppose that would depend on whether you owned the building or rented it. Ours is council owned so that would certainly be a no no. We have put up thick curtains in our bandroom recently (there are quite a few windows for a smallish room!) and it has made a difference. I have also seen some band rooms covering 1 or 2 walls completely with thick curtain material.
     
  7. Crazysop

    Crazysop Member

    Our Bandroom is a massive boomy church hall which we rent . Unfortunately theres nothing we can do about the acoustics as the hall is rented by loads of other groups etc not just us. So we usually throw in some rehearsals elsewhere before contests so as to let us hear thingsyou cant hear too well in a boomy acoustic. I Like the eggbox idea though! Although I dont think the other groups would appreciate it!!!
     
  8. WoodenFlugel

    WoodenFlugel Moderator Staff Member

    As far as I know its a case reducing the hard surfaces and getting as much surface area of softer, absorbant materials as possible. Egg boxes get used because they have a large suface area once you've stuck 'em to the wall (as a result of their egg holding shape ;) ). Curtains will work better if they're not pulled tight (ruffled? rouched? what is the word for that?) and are as heavy material as possible. Sitting the band on a carpet also makes a huge difference, and I guess the closer the sound-deadening is to the sound the more effect you will see (hear?) from it.

    I once depped on a recording for a band who had the boomyist band-room imaginable, but they put down a thick carpet (their bandroom had a hardwood floor) and positioned the open instrument cases close-to and around the band, and it made an incredible difference. Not perfect but a noticable difference all the same.

    Our own bandroom has curtains around all of the walls, and we created a false celing of bubble-wrap sheets, stapled with the bubbles downward to a frames in an attempt to kill some of the "bounce back" we got. While it isn't as good as a proper suspended celing would be it was a heck of a lot cheaper!!! :biggrin:

    As I say - no expert but those are the general ideas as I understand them.
     
  9. Naomi McFadyen

    Naomi McFadyen New Member

    egg boxes and plenty of curtains.... you should read up about accostics and recording stuff Rodri... I did all this stuff in College when I did Sound Engineering... ;-)

    I'm sure if you use google they'll be LOADS of websites to help with suggestions...


    :biggrin:
     
  10. NeilW

    NeilW Member

    I too have seen egg boxes used.

    However, you could probably also use "Insulation Bats" - the sort that are used between cavity walls when buildings are being built - to good effect on the ceiling. The advantage over egg boxes is that they're fireproof... Also will reduce the heating bill :)

    Neil.
     
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  13. grandfilth

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    I totally agree, the deader the room the better, low ceilings etc. We actually use two rooms in preperation for a contest, so we don't get used to one accoustic too much, and to build confidence. They do that at Hepworth too...I'm no expert obviously, given that i'm abit thick, but I reckon if your band room is any sort of chapel or church, you're pretty screwed!
     
  14. lewis

    lewis Member

    Why? That maybe says an awful lot for our contest venues if people think it is a bad thing to have rehearsals in a nice acoustic! There's nothing wrong with being able to hear what the band sounds like in a good room, the top orchestras don't rehearse in tiny rooms with low ceilings do they?
     
  15. DublinBass

    DublinBass Supporting Member

    Redbridge rehearses in a chapel...and it seemed to work okay for them :S
     
  16. grandfilth

    grandfilth Member

    Okay, like I said, i'm an idiot! I just reckon u cant hear any detail in a chapel. And you cant hear peoples sounds properly. I reckon the reason orchestras never practice in a dead room is cos they never do contests, and they never have to play in crappy halls. Anyway, bands aren't orchestras and hopefully never will be!
     
  17. lewis

    lewis Member

    :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
     
  18. DublinBass

    DublinBass Supporting Member

    ^That's want I meant too, but I CBA to look up the emoticon as I am doing quick reply, so I just used the :S
     
  19. lewis

    lewis Member

    I appreciate that you're a tenor horn player but surely you can't believe that? Lets try the Royal Albert Hall, the Barbican, Leeds Town Hall, Queen Elizabeth Hall etc.. etc.. the list is endless of terrible halls we do orchestral gigs in.

    Thankfully all the new halls are starting to have contests in as well now.
     
  20. lewis

    lewis Member

    stacking up the numbers of your posts hey pat? What does CBA mean?
     
  21. grandfilth

    grandfilth Member

    I do also play french horn...i'kll give you the albert hall!, but the barbican?!I'm confused...QE2 hall?is that the festival hall?cos I liked that!
     
  22. grandfilth

    grandfilth Member

    can't be arsed, i believe...!I bow down to ur superior hall knowledge and appologise sincerly!Like I say, i'm abit thick!
     

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