Recording a CD

Discussion in 'Off-Topic Chat' started by Goldie Horn, May 23, 2008.

  1. Goldie Horn

    Goldie Horn Member

    Just wanted a bit of advice really...

    My school records its band, orchestral and choral concerts and sells the CDs on to the parents. The problem we're finding with this is that we have to order a minimum of 60 CDs for each concert and for some concerts we're making a loss on this. We're now looking into using a company where a) you either don't have to order a minumum or the kids can order their own from the company's website. Does such a thing exist?

    Obviously I know that the recording company needs to be guaranteed a certain number to sell but could anyone help with recommendations of companies, ideas please?!?


  2. KMJ Recordings

    KMJ Recordings Supporting Member

    Are you talking about just the duplication or the recording as well?

    If you're just talking about the duplication, then it's easy enough to just burn the CDs yourself (although time consuming without a duplication tower) and you can print them fairly quickly with something like one of the Canon Pixma range. Avoid labels.

    Paper parts it a different issue, depending on your specification, as design / print / guillotine can be time consuming.

    Don't forget that each product needs to be licenced with the MCPS, which you can do under the new(ish) version of the Limited Availability Licence as you're an educational establishment.

    If you're talking about the recording as well, then it's likely that the CDs are bundled and sold to you as part of the fee, depending on who's doing it and the contract you've got with them. Look for someone else who'll just charge a fee for the recording and delivery of a master (and don't forget to include duplication rights in the contract....and make sure they don't ask for sales commission).
  3. KMJ Recordings

    KMJ Recordings Supporting Member

    More info for people thinking about going down the DIY route:

    You can burn one off CDs in your normal computer, but it's time consuming. You could alternatively buy duplicator towers such as these remembering that some come populated with drives, and others don't. Not all drives are created equal.

    You've then got to print the discs (assuming that you're not just providing 'blanks'). You can do individual discs with something like this, remembering that you've got to do it all individually.

    Or you could do it 'properly' in an automated fashion using something like these which could cost you up to a few thousand pounds depending on specification.

    If you're using a dedicated CD production company it's likely that they'll be using something like the latter - which goes some way to explaining why production costs may seem relatively high....there are capital costs as well as overheads that are inescapable. Then you've got media costs, the costs of consumables, costs of cases....

    The arguments that I've made elsewhere on replicated vs duplicated CDs still stand - the economics work out that over a certain number of CDs (currently about 200-300 in number with decent suppliers) it's better to get 500 pressed than the lower number burned onto CDR (as well as technologically superior).

    This next sentence may make me unpopular - are you sure you're not saturating your market? If you're recording all the concerts and producing CDs from each, maybe people don't want them all and it'd make more financial sense to reduce the numbers of recordings and sell more of the ones you do?