Quick Promotion

Discussion in 'The Rehearsal Room' started by Steve, Mar 8, 2005.

  1. Steve

    Steve Active Member

    Following our recent result at the area contest, some members of our band have been wondering if another band in recent years has risen through the tables as quickly as Raunds Temperance have? In particular, bands who have never received any sponsorship or external funding.

    The band competed in the 4th section in 98 & 99 and came first in 2000, now we are 1st section champions, the progress of the band can be seen on the website. www.raundstemperanceband.co.uk

    This is not blowing our own trumpet, this is a serious question and we would love to know of any other band who have done the same.
  2. TheMusicMan

    TheMusicMan tMP Founder Staff Member

    I know Sovereign Brass did it many years ago and now find themselves in the Championship section. I remember when they competed in Pontins Bream Sands in the 4th section at the start of their meteoric rise.
  3. AndyCat

    AndyCat Active Member

    Yes, Kennedys Swinton and maybe Pennine Brass and Wire Brass round here I think.
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  4. thelawyer

    thelawyer New Member

    Yes, we (Sovereign) went straight through the sections. First year in Championship Section we won and played at RAH.
    We have had a very long wait since then to go back! Suffice it to say the Band pub was packed last night as we did not bother with a rehearsal.

    Many congratulations to Raunds.
  5. Craigsav83

    Craigsav83 Active Member

    Arbroath Instrumental won the Scottish 4th section in 2001, finished 2nd in the 3rd section in 2002, finished 2nd in the 2nd section in 2003, and finished 4th in the first section in 2004 - 3 succesive promotions and a super result last year in the 1st section.

    Many bands in Scotland have recently won promotions in succesive years - Arbroath, Newmilns, Lochgelly, Clydebank, Johnston, Livingston and Kilmarnock spring to mind. Apologies to any I have missed ;)
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  6. tsawyer

    tsawyer Member

    Rothwell Temperance did something similar, going to six national final competitions in a row:

    94, 95 : Third Section
    96 : Second Section
    97, 98 : First Section
    99 : Champ Section

  7. Pav

    Pav Member

    What about Todmorden? They shot up through the sections didn't they?
  8. trumpetmaest

    trumpetmaest Member

    Sellers did it. although they had a bit of an identity crisis!

    Tecol, Sellers College Brass, Sellers Engineering and then Sellers International
  9. trumpetmaest

    trumpetmaest Member

    Tod dissapeared very quickly though. Was this to do with rapid promotion. Is this one of the problems?
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  10. michellegarbutt

    michellegarbutt Supporting Member

    Lockwood are on course for a similar rise. They won 4th section in 2003, 3rd section last year then last week they have won the 2nd section
  11. nickjones

    nickjones Active Member

    Beaumaris 4th and 3rd section National Champions 1991 and 1992 , Championship section by 1997 , qualifiers for National Finals ( Albert Hall )2002 , 2004. Grand Shield 2002 after 1 year senior cup.
    Point of Ayr Colliery Band 4th section 1976 - Championship Section 1980 ( 1st apperance at RAH in 1981 on Blitz playing at the North West Area ) , triple radio wales band of the year ( 1983 , 84 , 85 ) , double Leeds Open Champions , Twice Pontins Champions , Runner up CISWO Mineworkers many times , First North Wales Band to play at British Open ( 1985 / 86 / 87 / 88 / 89 / 93 / 94 )
  12. stevetrom

    stevetrom Well-Known Member

    Congratulations (through gritted teeth !) on saturdays result.

    How many of the band have been with you throughout the rise up the sections?

    What, in your opinion, triggered the success?

    Where did the players come from (Other bands? Youth band?) to
  13. Ali

    Ali Member

    Tod went straight from the 4th section to the British Open within a 6year period. The last year and a half that the band was around, it had sponsership but when that was withdrawn due to reasons out of the bands control, the band rapidly fell apart. It wasnt down to the rapid rise of the band but down to politics that helped the bands downfall.
  14. Steve

    Steve Active Member


    There is one reason and one reason alone behind the success and as much as he will never admit it that reason is John Flether, the conductor. He instilled the desire, passion and will to win and his enthusiasm is infectious.

    I have been there 18 months and two others have joined this year, the year before that was about the same and before that it was the same band as in 4th section. We dont have a training band / B band (yet) and all the players are just either old freinds, players that had retired and John found or people that have been their all their lives. I honestl believe the key is the full rehearsals and the will to work for each other. As a boy from the Welsh Valleys who grew up listening to Cory of the 70s, John has very clear thoughts on the way a band should sound and the way it should be run. His honesty and dedication is evident in every player that plays for him.
  15. Darth_Tuba

    Darth_Tuba Active Member

    Ashton-under-Lyne had a very rapid rise through the sections as well. They won the 3rd section, 2nd section and then 1st section nationals in consecutive years.
  16. bigcol

    bigcol Member

  17. Am I right in thinking that Swinton won every section at the area in consecutive years ?

    Has any other band done this? Surely this is unique.

    Championship Section Winners 1987 - Diversions On A Bass Theme
    2nd Section Winners 1986 - California Legend
    3rd Section Winners 1985 - A Barchester Suite
    4th Section Winners 1984 - Divertimento
  18. Ali

    Ali Member

    Im not going to take anything away from Swintons achivements but because the Championship section was also the first section, then they cant have won every section.
  19. a very flat b

    a very flat b Member

    Grange Moor are well on course. 1st section next year. They also have no financial backer, they raise all their own funds through hard work, especially in the run up to Christmas.
  20. dyl

    dyl Active Member

    Off-topic I know, but I have to mention that this is true for most bands!