Political compass - where do you lie?

Discussion in 'Off-Topic Chat' started by MoominDave, Apr 15, 2010.


Which part of the graph do you lie in?

  1. Top left - towards Authoritarian / Socialist

    2 vote(s)
  2. Top right - towards Authoritarian / Private enterprise

    2 vote(s)
  3. Bottom left - towards Libertarian / Socialist

    18 vote(s)
  4. Bottom right - towards Libertarian / Private enterprise

    3 vote(s)
  1. MoominDave

    MoominDave Well-Known Member

    Reading the political debate on here lately has made me curious to discover how us inhabitants of tMP distribute regarding our actual political opinions, rather than our temporary party affiliations. If you take the test at http://www.politicalcompass.org, it provides you with two measures of where you stand - one on economics (left/right - essentially controlled vs free markets, state vs private enterprise), and one on social attitudes (authoritarian vs libertarian). The separating out of these two variables makes sense to me - how often do the terms 'left' and 'right' become confused in debate because different people mix different social attitudes into the two labels?

    The test: http://www.politicalcompass.org/test

    My score was -5.12 left/right, -4.82 libertarian/authoritarian, which, of the leaders that they show, is quite similar to Nelson Mandela, Mahatma Gandhi and the Dalai Lama, three people whose work I admire in the main.
  2. Red Elvis

    Red Elvis Active Member

    -9.25 Left / Right and -3.75 Libertarian / Authoriatarian - Nelson Mandela and the Dalai Lama for me too !
  3. The Wherryman

    The Wherryman Active Member

    I was interested to see where the 'test' put Gordon Brown. I'd be even more interested to see his results in a 'moral compass' test.
  4. MoominDave

    MoominDave Well-Known Member

    Very interesting to look at how the parties have moved over the years on their graphic - a gradual rightward drift that leaves Blair-onwards Labour to the right of pre-Thatcher Conservatism.

    See http://www.politicalcompass.org/ukparties2010, at the bottom of the page.
  5. Thirteen Ball

    Thirteen Ball Active Member

    I wound up -6.75 left/right and -3.03 Libertarian/Authoritarian.

    Probably my hard line in the balance of rights vs responsibilities brought me back toward the authoritarian line and away from less general socialist thinking.

    Probably not far off the money, actually. I'm a bit of a "general lefty" in the way that Ben Elton decribed it. "I Believe in liberty, democracy and equality, but if there's only one custard cream left in the biscuit barrel, I want it...." :biggrin:
  6. The Wherryman

    The Wherryman Active Member

    I'm left wondering how the providers of the test persuaded these World leaders and other prominent citizens to take part in the test. I suppose the test was completed on their behalf, using their policies and public speeches to come to a conclusion on how they would have answered each question.

    As politicians (and others) have been known to say one thing publicly and believe something entirely different in private, it rather casts doubt on the value of those results.
  7. MoominDave

    MoominDave Well-Known Member

    They lay this out on their website, no need to wonder.

    Undoubtedly there's a margin of error on the answers, but the general trends and where individuals sit within those seem interesting and reasonably reliable.
  8. bassinthebathroom

    bassinthebathroom Active Member

    Does it even work anymore?
    My result was:
    Economic Left/Right: -4.12
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.77
    Similar to Ghandi... now where are my sandals?
  9. bassinthebathroom

    bassinthebathroom Active Member

    And the chart on UK political parties explains why I can't decide who to vote for! I come up as Old Labour, but as we know there's no party for those kind of voters any more! :(
    The page on composers was really interesting too! I'm closest to Britten and Shostakovich.
    Last edited: Apr 15, 2010
  10. lynchie

    lynchie Active Member

  11. tubadaz

    tubadaz Member

    Hi, it works! :)

    My result:
    Economic Left/Right: -6.12
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 2.31

    It also explains why I don't agree with any of the current party policies! :)
    Apparently the nearest one to my views is the Scottish Socialists - not much use in York! :biggrin:

  12. The Wherryman

    The Wherryman Active Member

    I think the question related to Gordon Brown's moral compass, not the test site :(
  13. 2nd man down

    2nd man down Moderator Staff Member

    Economic Left/Right: -3.62
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.67

    That puts me in with Robert Mugabe, Mamoud Abbas and Pope Benedict XVI!!!


    I'm not quite sure where that leaves me!? :confused:
    Last edited: Apr 15, 2010
  14. tubadaz

    tubadaz Member

    Ah, yes! That makes more sense, now I've re-read the original post!! :oops:

    Thanks for that! :-D

  15. The Wherryman

    The Wherryman Active Member

    I've just read the faq on the test site. One of the questions in the test refers to a biblical text (an eye for an eye), yet, when asked (in the faq) where Jesus and/or Mohammed would appear, the answer avoids the questions ie "That one would be way too speculative for our purposes...and if we did engage in such speculation, we'd be even more inundated with correspondence . Most aspects of contemporary politics didn't impact on the times of Jesus and other religious teachers anyway."

    The very next faq is - "How can you determine where politicians are honestly at without asking them ?"

    Answer - "We've relied on reports, parliamentary records, ... and actions that spoke louder than words."

    As the teachings of Jesus and Mohammed form the basis of modern Christianity and Islam, and those teachings have been passed down through the ages, as have accounts of their works, I don't see that their inclusion would be any more speculative than is the inclusion of Ghandi, Stalin, Hitler et al.

    The reason given for their failure to subject Jesus and Mohammed to the test is simply a cop-out, for the purpose of avoiding a back-lash from religious groups, as the answer seems to indicate.

    That, for me, rather destroys the credibility of the test author(s).
  16. MoominDave

    MoominDave Well-Known Member

    Oh, give it a rest, Geoff. One moral fudge in the footnotes and you're decrying the validity of the whole work.
  17. The Wherryman

    The Wherryman Active Member

    Oh, sorry, Dave, I forgot, I've got to toe the party line, haven't I. What's the penalty these days for having a mind of one's own? Does that make me a Sociatarian/Authoriteralist?
  18. MoominDave

    MoominDave Well-Known Member

    Eh? Am I supposed to somehow be persecuting you now? I'm afraid I've grown somewhat tired of your perpetual obscuring of issues by niggling at meaningless details.
  19. The Wherryman

    The Wherryman Active Member

    I am quite happy to enter into debate if I have an opinion to express and I do not make a habit of poo-poohing other people's opinion, just because I might happen to disagree with them. I would like the same courtesy to be extended to me.

    Perhaps you would care to specify just which of my 1,100 posts you think constitute 'perpetual obscuring etc'. On the other hand, I think I'll just go to bed.
  20. MoominDave

    MoominDave Well-Known Member

    No I wouldn't, Geoff. You know as well as I do how deliberately obstructive you can be in debate to very little purpose. You do not need me to provide you with examples. It has happened many times.

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