Paddy's Welsh Area - 2013

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  1. Paddy Flower

    Paddy Flower Active Member

    They did it again, 2 in the top-4 in the cake tin means 4 of these guys go back next year...

    Line-ups checked against...
    http://welshbrass.org.uk/id3.html
    with 4th section being a best guess based on previous years' entries...

    [TABLE="width: 255"]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: xl25, width: 285, bgcolor: transparent"]Championship Section[/TD]
    [TD="class: xl26, width: 55, bgcolor: transparent"][/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: xl27, bgcolor: transparent"]Cory[/TD]
    [TD="class: xl24, bgcolor: transparent"]1/6 F[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: xl27, bgcolor: transparent"]Tongwynlais Temperance[/TD]
    [TD="class: xl24, bgcolor: transparent"]11/1[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: xl28, width: 285, bgcolor: transparent"]Tredegar[/TD]
    [TD="class: xl24, bgcolor: transparent"]12/1[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: xl27, bgcolor: transparent"]Beaumaris[/TD]
    [TD="class: xl24, bgcolor: transparent"]22/1[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: xl27, bgcolor: transparent"]BTM[/TD]
    [TD="class: xl24, bgcolor: transparent"]66/1[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: xl28, width: 285, bgcolor: transparent"]Northop Silver[/TD]
    [TD="class: xl24, bgcolor: transparent"]100/1[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: xl27, bgcolor: transparent"]Burry Port Town[/TD]
    [TD="class: xl24, bgcolor: transparent"]150/1[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: xl27, bgcolor: transparent"]City of Cardiff (Melingriffith)[/TD]
    [TD="class: xl24, bgcolor: transparent"]350/1[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: xl27, bgcolor: transparent"]Pontardulais Town[/TD]
    [TD="class: xl24, bgcolor: transparent"]1000/1[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [/TABLE]
     
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  3. Paddy Flower

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    [TABLE="width: 255"]
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    [TD="class: xl26, width: 285, bgcolor: transparent"]First Section[/TD]
    [TD="class: xl27, width: 55, bgcolor: transparent"][/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: xl30, bgcolor: transparent"]Tylorstown[/TD]
    [TD="class: xl24, bgcolor: transparent"]6/4 F[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: xl29, bgcolor: transparent"]Llwydcoed Silver[/TD]
    [TD="class: xl24, bgcolor: transparent"]9/2[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: xl25, bgcolor: transparent"]Wrexham Glyndwr[/TD]
    [TD="class: xl24, bgcolor: transparent"]9/2[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: xl28, width: 285, bgcolor: transparent"]Abergavenny Borough[/TD]
    [TD="class: xl24, bgcolor: transparent"]11/2[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: xl28, width: 285, bgcolor: transparent"]Lewis Merthyr[/TD]
    [TD="class: xl24, bgcolor: transparent"]9/1[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: xl28, width: 285, bgcolor: transparent"]Penclawdd Brass[/TD]
    [TD="class: xl24, bgcolor: transparent"]12/1[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: xl28, width: 285, bgcolor: transparent"]Llanrug & District Silver[/TD]
    [TD="class: xl24, bgcolor: transparent"]16/1[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: xl28, width: 285, bgcolor: transparent"]Markham & District Colliery[/TD]
    [TD="class: xl24, bgcolor: transparent"]22/1[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: xl25, bgcolor: transparent"]Deiniolen Silver [/TD]
    [TD="class: xl24, bgcolor: transparent"]33/1[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: xl28, width: 285, bgcolor: transparent"]Rogerstone[/TD]
    [TD="class: xl24, bgcolor: transparent"]40/1[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [/TABLE]
     
  4. Paddy Flower

    Paddy Flower Active Member

    [TABLE="width: 255"]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: xl25, width: 285, bgcolor: transparent"]Second Section[/TD]
    [TD="class: xl26, width: 55, bgcolor: transparent"][/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: xl27, bgcolor: transparent"]Parc & Dare[/TD]
    [TD="class: xl24, bgcolor: transparent"]10/11 F[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: xl27, bgcolor: transparent"]Goodwick Brass [/TD]
    [TD="class: xl24, bgcolor: transparent"]11/5[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: xl27, bgcolor: transparent"]Treherbert & District[/TD]
    [TD="class: xl24, bgcolor: transparent"]7/1[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: xl27, bgcolor: transparent"]Royal Buckley Town[/TD]
    [TD="class: xl24, bgcolor: transparent"]10/1[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: xl27, bgcolor: transparent"]Newtown Silver[/TD]
    [TD="class: xl24, bgcolor: transparent"]16/1[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: xl27, bgcolor: transparent"]City of Cardiff (Mellingriffith) M2[/TD]
    [TD="class: xl24, bgcolor: transparent"]16/1[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: xl27, bgcolor: transparent"]Blaenavon Town[/TD]
    [TD="class: xl24, bgcolor: transparent"]20/1[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: xl27, bgcolor: transparent"]Gwaun-Cae-Gurwen[/TD]
    [TD="class: xl24, bgcolor: transparent"]66/1[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: xl27, bgcolor: transparent"]Crwbin[/TD]
    [TD="class: xl24, bgcolor: transparent"]100/1[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [/TABLE]
     
  5. Paddy Flower

    Paddy Flower Active Member

    [TABLE="width: 255"]
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    [TD="class: xl25, width: 285, bgcolor: transparent"]Third Section[/TD]
    [TD="class: xl26, width: 55, bgcolor: transparent"][/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: xl27, width: 285, bgcolor: transparent"]Pontypool Brass[/TD]
    [TD="class: xl24, bgcolor: transparent"]100/30 F[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: xl27, width: 285, bgcolor: transparent"]RAF St. Athan Voluntary[/TD]
    [TD="class: xl24, bgcolor: transparent"]7/2[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: xl27, width: 285, bgcolor: transparent"]Briton Ferry Silver[/TD]
    [TD="class: xl24, bgcolor: transparent"]6/1[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: xl27, width: 285, bgcolor: transparent"]Severn Tunnel[/TD]
    [TD="class: xl24, bgcolor: transparent"]13/2[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: xl27, width: 285, bgcolor: transparent"]Crosskeys Silver[/TD]
    [TD="class: xl24, bgcolor: transparent"]7/1[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: xl28, bgcolor: transparent"]Holywell Town[/TD]
    [TD="class: xl24, bgcolor: transparent"]8/1[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: xl27, width: 285, bgcolor: transparent"]Ogmore Valley Silver[/TD]
    [TD="class: xl24, bgcolor: transparent"]8/1[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: xl27, width: 285, bgcolor: transparent"]Tata Steel (Port Talbot)[/TD]
    [TD="class: xl24, bgcolor: transparent"]16/1[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: xl29, bgcolor: transparent"]Thomas Coaches Mid Rhondda[/TD]
    [TD="class: xl24, bgcolor: transparent"]18/1[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: xl28, bgcolor: transparent"]Ynyshir Welfare[/TD]
    [TD="class: xl24, bgcolor: transparent"]25/1[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: xl27, width: 285, bgcolor: transparent"]Newport Borough[/TD]
    [TD="class: xl24, bgcolor: transparent"]66/1[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [/TABLE]
     
  6. Paddy Flower

    Paddy Flower Active Member

    [TABLE="width: 255"]
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    [TD="class: xl26, width: 285, bgcolor: transparent"]Fourth Section[/TD]
    [TD="class: xl27, width: 55, bgcolor: transparent"][/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: xl25, bgcolor: transparent"]Ebbw Valley Brass[/TD]
    [TD="class: xl24, bgcolor: transparent"]3/1 F[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: xl25, bgcolor: transparent"]Ammanford Town[/TD]
    [TD="class: xl24, bgcolor: transparent"]4/1[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: xl29, width: 285, bgcolor: transparent"]Royal Oakeley Silver[/TD]
    [TD="class: xl24, bgcolor: transparent"]4/1[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: xl25, bgcolor: transparent"]Abertillery & District Youth[/TD]
    [TD="class: xl24, bgcolor: transparent"]5/1[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: xl28, bgcolor: transparent"]Upper Rhondda [/TD]
    [TD="class: xl24, bgcolor: transparent"]13/2[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: xl29, width: 285, bgcolor: transparent"]Rhyl Silver[/TD]
    [TD="class: xl24, bgcolor: transparent"]15/2[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: xl28, bgcolor: transparent"]Cwmtawe District Youth[/TD]
    [TD="class: xl24, bgcolor: transparent"]12/1[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: xl25, bgcolor: transparent"]Oakdale Silver[/TD]
    [TD="class: xl24, bgcolor: transparent"]20/1[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: xl25, bgcolor: transparent"]Ruthin Town[/TD]
    [TD="class: xl24, bgcolor: transparent"]33/1[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: xl25, bgcolor: transparent"]Ystradgynlais Public[/TD]
    [TD="class: xl24, bgcolor: transparent"]40/1[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="class: xl25, bgcolor: transparent"]Cwmbran Brass[/TD]
    [TD="class: xl24, bgcolor: transparent"]150/1[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [/TABLE]
     
  7. MoominDave

    MoominDave Well-Known Member

    According to their website, Wrexham are operating as a 10-piece at the moment and taking a break from contesting, so it's maybe doubtful that they will be there?
     
  8. hobgoblin

    hobgoblin Member

    Hard to see past Cory. They seem to have cleverly avoided the sadly predictable sackings / personnel changes that often come with a change of MD. Mr Harper is proving he is no fool and is sticking by the great players left by the legacy of Mr Childs success. This stability is what will keep this band right up there while others chop and change personnel - you only have to look at Fodens win this weekend to see that a stable band is a winning band. It's rare to see this great level of self assuredness and managment in such a young MD - he knows he can stamp his quality on the band without just getting in all his mates like some of the other pretenders out there.
     
  9. BikeBadger

    BikeBadger Member

    There'll be a few nearby bands hoping this will indeed be the case. Interesting that Cory held off Ton with the help of 5 or 6 ex-Ton players at the weekend. Will the cheque book come out over the winter?
     
  10. Chris Hicks

    Chris Hicks Member

    Someone isn't Cory's biggest fan.....
     
  11. DCWOODS

    DCWOODS Member

    Does anyone have the line up of bands please?
     
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  13. ilovespheres

    ilovespheres Member

    Time to get excited. Don't know the official line-up but this is one that I've made after seeing the grading table. Anyone welcome to change, just let me know. And with the order of each band, this is my pre-contest prediction, take no notice.

    Championship Section

    1.Cory Band
    2.Tongwynlais Temperance
    3.Tredegar
    4.Burry Port Town
    5.BTM
    6.Beaumaris
    7.Northop Silver
    8.City of Cardiff (Melingriffith)
    9.Pontardulais Town

    1st Section:

    1.Tylorstown
    2.Markham and District
    3.Llwydcoed
    4.Lewis Merthyr
    5.Abergavenny
    6.Deiniolen Band
    7.Rogerstone
    8.Penclawdd Brass
    9.Llanrug Band

    2nd Section:

    1.Goodwick
    2.Royal Buckley Town
    3.M2
    4.Parc & Dare
    5.Treherbert & District
    6.Newtown Silver
    7.Crwbin
    8.Blaenavon Town
    9.Gwaun-Cae-Gurwen

    3rd Section:

    1.Pontypool Brass
    2.Severn Tunnel
    3.RAF St Athan
    4.Ogmore Valley
    5.Briton Ferry Silver
    6.Holywell Town
    7.Crosskeys
    8.Tata Steel (Port Talbot)
    9.Thomas Coaches Mid Rhondda
    10.YnyshirWelfare
    11.NewportBorough

    4th Section:

    1.Ebbw Valley Brass
    2.Rhyl Silver
    3.Ammanford Town
    4.Royal Oakley
    5.Abertillery & District Youth
    6.Upper Rhondda
    7.Oakdale Silver
    8.Cwmtawe District Youth
    9.Rhuthin Town
    10.Ystradgynlais
    11.Cwmbran Brass
     
  14. jasdrum

    jasdrum New Member

    can someone kindly provide info on approx start times for each section please?
     
  15. katieeuph

    katieeuph Member

    I may be wrong (someone will correct me if I am) but I don't think Tata or Cwmbran are competing. 3rd Section starts at 11 on Saturday- that's all I know.
     
  16. eusebio

    eusebio New Member

    Championship Section results throw up a shock as the result varies wildly from what has been predicted all afternoon by various people on Twitter

    1. Tongwynlais
    2. Tredegar
    3. Northop Hall
    4. Burry Port
    5. Cory
    6. Beaumaris
    7. City of Cardiff (Melingriffith)
    8. BTM
    9. Pontarddulais
     
  17. back beat

    back beat Member

    Why a shock? At last an adjudicator that didn't judge by the clapometer. I got Tred first but % th for Cory was about right for me.
    Well done Mr Cosh!
     
  18. eusebio

    eusebio New Member

    A shock because (as I said in my posting) it varies wildly from the result being predicted by almost everybod on Twitter.

    The 'unofficial guessing' was Cory and Tredegar vying for 1st and 2nd with Beaumaris and Ton vying for 3rd and 4th ... I wasn't there so my posting is a reaction to what was being predicted by not only 4barsrest and British Bandsman but also many audience members.
     
  19. Well unless people were at the contest they shouldn't make armchair adjudicators and judgements. I had a number of people from other bands come up to myself and other band members commending our performance and also had us in the mix for qualification. Well done to tred on qualification and to ton on a great win.


    CPM
     
  20. eusebio

    eusebio New Member

    Who is making armchair judgements?
     
  21. simonium

    simonium Member

    Exciting stuff!
     
  22. Rapier

    Rapier Supporting Member

    Perhaps they had Steve Walsh adjudicating? :cool:
     

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