Paddy's North-West Area - 2012

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  1. Paddy Flower

    Paddy Flower Active Member

    One of two fantastic contest weekends at the Winter Gardens, Blackpool...

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    [TD="class: xl24, width: 355, bgcolor: transparent"]Foden's - 4/5 fav[/TD]
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    [TD="class: xl25, width: 355, bgcolor: transparent"]Fairey (Geneva) - 5/4[/TD]
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    [TD="class: xl24, width: 355, bgcolor: transparent"]Leyland - 11/2[/TD]
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    [TD="class: xl25, width: 355, bgcolor: transparent"]Wingates - 25/1[/TD]
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    [TD="class: xl25, width: 355, bgcolor: transparent"]Pemberton Old Wigan DW - 66/1[/TD]
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    [TD="class: xl26, bgcolor: transparent"]Co-operative Milnrow - 66/1[/TD]
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    [TD="class: xl26, bgcolor: transparent"]Co-op Funeralcare (North West) - 150/1[/TD]
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    [TD="class: xl25, width: 355, bgcolor: transparent"]Longridge - 200/1[/TD]
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    [TD="class: xl25, width: 355, bgcolor: transparent"]Ashton-under-Lyne - 200/1[/TD]
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    [TD="class: xl25, width: 355, bgcolor: transparent"]Blackburn & Darwen - 200/1[/TD]
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    [TD="class: xl25, width: 355, bgcolor: transparent"]Vernon Building Society Poynton - 350/1[/TD]
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    [TD="class: xl25, width: 355, bgcolor: transparent"]Bollington Brass - 350/1[/TD]
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  3. Paddy Flower

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    [TD="class: xl26, width: 355, bgcolor: transparent"]First Section[/TD]
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    [TD="class: xl25, width: 355, bgcolor: transparent"]Freckleton - 2/1 fav[/TD]
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    [TD="class: xl27, bgcolor: transparent"]Oldham (Lees) - 3/1[/TD]
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    [TD="class: xl25, width: 355, bgcolor: transparent"]Wardle & District Anderson Brass - 5/1[/TD]
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    [TD="class: xl25, width: 355, bgcolor: transparent"]Roberts Bakery - 13/2[/TD]
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    [TD="class: xl25, width: 355, bgcolor: transparent"]Rainford Silver - 9/1[/TD]
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    [TD="class: xl25, width: 355, bgcolor: transparent"]Manx Concert Brass - 12/1[/TD]
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    [TD="class: xl24, width: 355, bgcolor: transparent"]Morecambe - 12/1[/TD]
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    [TD="class: xl27, bgcolor: transparent"]Silk Brass (Macclesfield) - 18/1[/TD]
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    [TD="class: xl25, width: 355, bgcolor: transparent"]Diggle - 22/1[/TD]
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    [TD="class: xl25, width: 355, bgcolor: transparent"]Haydock - 33/1[/TD]
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  4. Paddy Flower

    Paddy Flower Active Member

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    [TD="class: xl24, width: 355, bgcolor: transparent"]Poulton-Le-Fylde - 9/2 jt fav[/TD]
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    [TD="class: xl24, width: 355, bgcolor: transparent"]Tyldesley - 9/2 jt fav[/TD]
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    [TD="class: xl24, width: 355, bgcolor: transparent"]Uppermill - 5/1[/TD]
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    [TD="class: xl24, width: 355, bgcolor: transparent"]Haslingden & Helmshore - 15/2[/TD]
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    [TD="class: xl26, bgcolor: transparent"]Crewe Brass - 9/1[/TD]
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    [TD="class: xl25, bgcolor: transparent"]Middleton - 11/1[/TD]
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    [TD="class: xl24, width: 355, bgcolor: transparent"]Mossley - 12/1[/TD]
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    [TD="class: xl24, width: 355, bgcolor: transparent"]Flixton - 14/1[/TD]
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    [TD="class: xl24, width: 355, bgcolor: transparent"]Hoover (Bolton) - 16/1[/TD]
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    [TD="class: xl24, width: 355, bgcolor: transparent"]Eccleston Brass - 16/1[/TD]
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    [TD="class: xl24, width: 355, bgcolor: transparent"]Dobcross Silver - 20/1[/TD]
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    [TD="class: xl24, width: 355, bgcolor: transparent"]Greenall's Brewery - 25/1[/TD]
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    [TD="class: xl24, width: 355, bgcolor: transparent"]Douglas Town - 28/1[/TD]
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    [TD="class: xl24, width: 355, bgcolor: transparent"]Delph - 28/1[/TD]
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    [TD="class: xl24, width: 355, bgcolor: transparent"]Besses o' th' Barn - 50/1[/TD]
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  5. Paddy Flower

    Paddy Flower Active Member

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    [TD="class: xl25, width: 355, bgcolor: transparent"]Whitworth Vale & Healey - 9/2 fav[/TD]
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    [TD="class: xl25, width: 355, bgcolor: transparent"]Pemberton Old Wigan DW 'B' - 5/1[/TD]
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    [TD="class: xl25, width: 355, bgcolor: transparent"]Eccles Borough - 7/1[/TD]
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    [TD="class: xl25, width: 355, bgcolor: transparent"]Lostock Hall Memorial - 8/1[/TD]
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    [TD="class: xl25, width: 355, bgcolor: transparent"]Trinity Girls - 9/1[/TD]
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    [TD="class: xl25, width: 355, bgcolor: transparent"]Blackpool Brass - 9/1[/TD]
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    [TD="class: xl25, width: 355, bgcolor: transparent"]Eagley - 11/1[/TD]
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    [TD="class: xl25, width: 355, bgcolor: transparent"]Hazel Grove - 11/1[/TD]
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    [TD="class: xl27, bgcolor: transparent"]Boarshurst Silver - 11/1[/TD]
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    [TD="class: xl25, width: 355, bgcolor: transparent"]Besses' Boys - 16/1[/TD]
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    [TD="class: xl25, width: 355, bgcolor: transparent"]Old Hall Brass - 20/1[/TD]
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    [TD="class: xl25, width: 355, bgcolor: transparent"]Rivington & Adlington - 22/1[/TD]
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    [TD="class: xl24, width: 355, bgcolor: transparent"]Stalybridge Old - 33/1[/TD]
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    [TD="class: xl25, width: 355, bgcolor: transparent"]Farnworth & Walkden - 33/1[/TD]
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    [TD="class: xl25, width: 355, bgcolor: transparent"]Nelson Brass - 50/1[/TD]
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  6. Paddy Flower

    Paddy Flower Active Member

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    [TD="class: xl24, bgcolor: transparent"]Ramsey Town - 2/1 fav[/TD]
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    [TD="class: xl24, bgcolor: transparent"]Darwen Brass - 5/1[/TD]
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    [TD="class: xl24, bgcolor: transparent"]Hawk Green (Marple) - 15/2[/TD]
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    [TD="class: xl24, bgcolor: transparent"]BMP Europe Goodshaw - 10/1[/TD]
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    [TD="class: xl24, bgcolor: transparent"]Coppull & Standish - 10/1[/TD]
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    [TD="class: xl24, bgcolor: transparent"]City of Chester - 12/1[/TD]
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    [TD="class: xl24, bgcolor: transparent"]Parr (Richardson Ltd) St Helens - 12/1[/TD]
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    [TD="class: xl24, bgcolor: transparent"]Pilling Jubilee Silver - 22/1[/TD]
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    [TD="class: xl24, bgcolor: transparent"]Golborne - 22/1[/TD]
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    [TD="class: xl24, bgcolor: transparent"]Port Sunlight Lyceum Brass - 28/1[/TD]
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    [TD="class: xl24, bgcolor: transparent"]Sale Brass - 33/1[/TD]
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    [TD="class: xl24, bgcolor: transparent"]Dobcross Youth - 40/1[/TD]
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    [TD="class: xl24, bgcolor: transparent"]Wirral Brass - 50/1[/TD]
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    [TD="class: xl24, bgcolor: transparent"]Tarleton & District Brass - 66/1[/TD]
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    [TD="class: xl24, bgcolor: transparent"]Greenfield - 66/1[/TD]
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    [TD="class: xl24, bgcolor: transparent"]Blackley - 66/1[/TD]
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    [TD="class: xl26, bgcolor: transparent"]Littleborough Public - 66/1[/TD]
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    [TD="class: xl24, bgcolor: transparent"]Ellenbrook & Boothtown - 66/1[/TD]
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    [TD="class: xl24, bgcolor: transparent"]Rode Hall Silver - 100/1[/TD]
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    [TD="class: xl24, bgcolor: transparent"]Mereside Brass - 100/1[/TD]
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    [TD="class: xl24, bgcolor: transparent"]Tottington Public - 150/1[/TD]
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    [TD="class: xl24, bgcolor: transparent"]Brindle - 200/1[/TD]
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    [TD="class: xl24, bgcolor: transparent"]Denton Brass - 350/1[/TD]
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  7. McEuphie

    McEuphie Member

    Hi Paddy,

    Just had a quick look at next year's areas and found a couple of errors:

    Poulton - Le-Fylde are in 1st section not the 2nd.

    Cheshire Constabulary are in the 3rd section and don't appear in your tables.

    Cheers
     
  8. hi, i play for thornton cleveleys band and we were talking about entering next yrs areas in the 4th section. have we missed the deadline to enter? we have never recieved any entry forms if we have.
     
  9. JPCoulson

    JPCoulson Member

    Skelmersdale Prize Band will be going in the Third section.
     
  10. EbEwan

    EbEwan Member

    There doesn't appear to be any information on this on Kapitol's website, but the regions that do list a closing date all close in January so you should have time. Contact your regional secretary (his phone number is on the Kapitol site).
     
  11. bandcampgal

    bandcampgal Member

    Hi Paddy,

    Just wondering how you get your odds? Ours seem waaaay high for a band that have qualified 2 out of the past 3 years! Would definitely have an each way go on us!
     
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  13. ill have a tener on littlebourgh band in the 4th section!! young up and coming band there!!
     
  14. Anno Draconis

    Anno Draconis Well-Known Member

    I thought that, to be fair - plus a better result than us (Wingates) at the Shield, iirc? The disparity in odds seems excessive! Or does Paddy know something we don't...?
     
  15. sbandsman

    sbandsman Member

    Could it be something about "new brooms" (in the MD lines) Andy?
     
  16. bandcampgal

    bandcampgal Member

    Well I didn't like to say, so glad you pointed that out! I wonder that - if Paddy has a plan to get rid of all our players or something, or knows of some exciting news at Wingates to warrant the difference in odds between us! Fair dos if it was 25/1 and 33/1 but 66/1 seems a little harsh! :D
     
  17. towse1972

    towse1972 Active Member

    I shouldn't worry about it too much. Paddy's odds won't effect your playing........That's where it counts! :)
     
  18. Anno Draconis

    Anno Draconis Well-Known Member

    Speak for yourself - my pre-contest nerves will be murder now...
     
  19. Paddy Flower

    Paddy Flower Active Member

    It simply boils down to recent form, Nationals, Dr Martins and English Nationals have all represented a downturn in your form as far as I'm concerned, OK you beat Wingates at the area and Blackpool but then Wingates haven't competed since then and so haven't had that downturn in form.

    In short, I can only judge on your most recent contests and they haven't been good.
     
  20. bandcampgal

    bandcampgal Member

    It's a good job really isn't it that I don't worry, otherwise I may as well give up now :D
     
  21. Bayerd

    Bayerd Active Member

    Bring pegs for the rest of us then.....:grnsm
     
  22. Danny_L

    Danny_L Member

    But how does that stack up?? Fair enough you're basing your odds on form but when you consider that the band that are much longer odds have their form affected because of lower placings at contests that the other band couldn't even get to through qualification, etc... someone's getting a bargain aren't they!!

    (No offence intended to any bands here btw, just merely being annoying and pointing out a flaw in Paddy's very hard graft...sorry Paddy!! :p )
     
    Last edited: Oct 21, 2011

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